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London murder rate higher than New York 09:52 - Apr 4 with 2350 viewsMeenoITFC

for the first time ever.. Rise of 40% in three years, and looking to continue to get worse.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/london-murder-rate-higher-new-york-city-first-time-
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London murder rate higher than New York on 09:54 - Apr 4 with 2332 viewsSitfcB

Yesterday's news is today's chip paper...

London. by Benters2 3 Apr 2018 7:01
Sky News reporting this morning.(and good old Auntie B for Facty)

London murder rate overtakes New York for the first time ever after a spate of fatal stabbings and shootings.

Still Sadiq Kahn and the government stopped the 'stop and search'policy as it was seen as racist or something?

That will learn em.


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London murder rate higher than New York on 09:56 - Apr 4 with 2317 viewsSwailsey

Oh god.

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London murder rate higher than New York on 09:58 - Apr 4 with 2311 viewsMeenoITFC

London murder rate higher than New York on 09:54 - Apr 4 by SitfcB

Yesterday's news is today's chip paper...

London. by Benters2 3 Apr 2018 7:01
Sky News reporting this morning.(and good old Auntie B for Facty)

London murder rate overtakes New York for the first time ever after a spate of fatal stabbings and shootings.

Still Sadiq Kahn and the government stopped the 'stop and search'policy as it was seen as racist or something?

That will learn em.



haha just seen this. I missed the boat

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London murder rate higher than New York on 10:04 - Apr 4 with 2304 viewsGuthrum

Only by a single case in each of those two individual months. I'd like to see the figures for other time periods.

In any case, London and New York are about the same size.

The numbers overall are statisitcally very low (22 in a city of 8.8 million is a 0.00025% per capita murder rate). A single event, such as a war between two local gangs, can significantly skew the figures with only a couple of killings.

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London murder rate higher than New York on 10:05 - Apr 4 with 2297 viewsartsbossbeard

London murder rate higher than New York on 09:58 - Apr 4 by MeenoITFC

haha just seen this. I missed the boat


You missed nothing.

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London murder rate higher than New York on 10:11 - Apr 4 with 2289 viewsNo9

According to some gadger on the radio this morning, this is to do with gang wars between the East end & North London with not enough police to break the gangs up or to deal with them.
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London murder rate higher than New York on 10:18 - Apr 4 with 2275 viewsPhilTWTD

London murder rate higher than New York on 10:04 - Apr 4 by Guthrum

Only by a single case in each of those two individual months. I'd like to see the figures for other time periods.

In any case, London and New York are about the same size.

The numbers overall are statisitcally very low (22 in a city of 8.8 million is a 0.00025% per capita murder rate). A single event, such as a war between two local gangs, can significantly skew the figures with only a couple of killings.


Piece on the selective use of stats here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43628494
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London murder rate higher than New York on 10:28 - Apr 4 with 2247 viewscrunchie1978

London murder rate higher than New York on 10:11 - Apr 4 by No9

According to some gadger on the radio this morning, this is to do with gang wars between the East end & North London with not enough police to break the gangs up or to deal with them.


What about the "westside"...innit!
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London murder rate higher than New York on 11:45 - Apr 4 with 2188 viewsNo9

London murder rate higher than New York on 10:28 - Apr 4 by crunchie1978

What about the "westside"...innit!


He never mentioned the west side - just East end & North - drug dealres & no effective police force.
Thw westside is little Russia
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London murder rate higher than New York on 12:07 - Apr 4 with 2156 viewsSwansea_Blue

London murder rate higher than New York on 10:18 - Apr 4 by PhilTWTD

Piece on the selective use of stats here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43628494


It amazes me that this even needs to be pointed out. People fall for the same short-termism in relation to data for all sorts of things - Brexit 'impacts' a prime one at the monet, climate change another.

Surely it should be self-evident that one month's worth of data isn't giving the whole picture? Although I suppose if people just read the red top headlines they probably don't even realise the timescale in question.

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London murder rate higher than New York on 13:44 - Apr 4 with 2077 viewsTIB

London murder rate higher than New York on 10:28 - Apr 4 by crunchie1978

What about the "westside"...innit!


Naaaaah blud...East Side iz da best

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London murder rate higher than New York on 14:23 - Apr 4 with 2042 viewsRadlett_blue

London murder rate higher than New York on 10:04 - Apr 4 by Guthrum

Only by a single case in each of those two individual months. I'd like to see the figures for other time periods.

In any case, London and New York are about the same size.

The numbers overall are statisitcally very low (22 in a city of 8.8 million is a 0.00025% per capita murder rate). A single event, such as a war between two local gangs, can significantly skew the figures with only a couple of killings.


I'm sure a very high proportion of the murders in London are gang related. That doesn't mean that the killings don't matter, but it does mean that they are unlikely to be curbed by conventional measures & it also means that the risk to most members of the public is minimal, whatever the media hysteria might indicate.

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London murder rate higher than New York on 15:35 - Apr 4 with 2020 viewscrunchie1978

London murder rate higher than New York on 11:45 - Apr 4 by No9

He never mentioned the west side - just East end & North - drug dealres & no effective police force.
Thw westside is little Russia


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