| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers 13:06 - Dec 29 with 3705 views | J2BLUE |
I've seen people putting random numbers on what Evans 'needs' to spend to get us out of this. Other people seem determined to put a number on the points total we will need so they can come up with increasingly dire predictions about having to achieve play off form etc. It's all rubbish. We need to get out of the bottom three and stay there by matching their results.
Anyone expecting Evans to spend £10m or whatever are going to be disappointed. The players to get us out of this are not necessarily the players we would want next year under Lambert. We're likely to see loans, short term free agents in deals like the Gleeson deal and maybe a couple of cheap journeymen. It's entirely possible to get what we need by not spending a lot on fees. If we sign a few experienced Championship brutes who specialise in grinding out results then that will be brilliant. We really need to give new signings our full support rather than having a meltdown because we've loaned someone from a mid table Championship club (the sort of deal we're likely to do IMO). A lot of people already seem to be waiting for a chance to kick off. We can still survive.
TL, DR: New signings likely to be uninspiring on the surface but might just be the hardened and experienced players we need in this specific situation. [Post edited 29 Dec 2018 13:07]
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| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 13:38 - Dec 29 with 3630 views | thebooks |
Not really sure any expectations to be managed. It's obvious we need a striker, some experience in midfield and two defenders in on loan.
If Evans is bothered about keeping us in this league that's what he'll need to fund. If he doesn't he can feck off forever, expectations or not. [Post edited 29 Dec 2018 13:40]
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| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 13:51 - Dec 29 with 3594 views | ericclacton |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 13:38 - Dec 29 by thebooks |
Not really sure any expectations to be managed. It's obvious we need a striker, some experience in midfield and two defenders in on loan.
If Evans is bothered about keeping us in this league that's what he'll need to fund. If he doesn't he can feck off forever, expectations or not. [Post edited 29 Dec 2018 13:40]
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Heh, have you been cooking thebooks? |  | | |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 14:47 - Dec 29 with 3514 views | braveblue |
This level of ambition reflects the mess we are in. Too many accept anything Evans does. He could spend £3m and still be £2m in profit re players sales in the summer. We need players in first few days in Hanuary. Just wait and see the lack of investment. |  | | |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 15:00 - Dec 29 with 3495 views | blueconscience |
Most people are resigned to Evans not spending what will be required, so therefore expecting more injury prone championship rejects. |  |
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| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 15:06 - Dec 29 with 3475 views | jas0999 |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 13:38 - Dec 29 by thebooks |
Not really sure any expectations to be managed. It's obvious we need a striker, some experience in midfield and two defenders in on loan.
If Evans is bothered about keeping us in this league that's what he'll need to fund. If he doesn't he can feck off forever, expectations or not. [Post edited 29 Dec 2018 13:40]
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The problem of course is we already have four loans and can only pick five on a match day. Edun May return to Fulham, whilst Donacian isn’t in favour. But nonetheless we can’t get five on loan. | | | |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 15:31 - Dec 29 with 3430 views | TractorWood |
Spend nothing and we'll go down with a £5m net surplus on transfers. We are irrefutably the worst side in the division in terms of quality.
Still though, my expectations are that we'll spend materially nothing and one will leave for a £1m+ fee.
Boro are spending £7m on George Saville alone. Unbelievable. |  |
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| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 15:36 - Dec 29 with 3416 views | carlisleaway |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 15:31 - Dec 29 by TractorWood |
Spend nothing and we'll go down with a £5m net surplus on transfers. We are irrefutably the worst side in the division in terms of quality.
Still though, my expectations are that we'll spend materially nothing and one will leave for a £1m+ fee.
Boro are spending £7m on George Saville alone. Unbelievable. |
It will need a minor miracle to avoid relegation, do not like saying it but ME should hold onto his money until the Summer when we can build on what is a very poor squad. |  | | |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 15:38 - Dec 29 with 3402 views | J2BLUE |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 15:31 - Dec 29 by TractorWood |
Spend nothing and we'll go down with a £5m net surplus on transfers. We are irrefutably the worst side in the division in terms of quality.
Still though, my expectations are that we'll spend materially nothing and one will leave for a £1m+ fee.
Boro are spending £7m on George Saville alone. Unbelievable. |
I think people are missing my point. We will likely sign loans, free and cheap signings which seem uninspiring but add the steel we need to grind out results to survive. All i'm saying is people need to give them a fair chance rather than have a massive tantrum that we haven't spent fortunes. | |
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| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 15:45 - Dec 29 with 3366 views | TractorWood |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 15:38 - Dec 29 by J2BLUE |
I think people are missing my point. We will likely sign loans, free and cheap signings which seem uninspiring but add the steel we need to grind out results to survive. All i'm saying is people need to give them a fair chance rather than have a massive tantrum that we haven't spent fortunes. |
It's irrelevant how much we spend, we need to improve the squad. However, the pool of players who would improve us but would also want to sign for us in our current position and up for sale must be tiny. There's also a paradox between loan players who will come in brimming with steel on a really short term deal.
Ipswich bias aside, If I'm a free agent or a talented youngster for a loan. I wouldn't touch us with a bargepole. [Post edited 29 Dec 2018 15:47]
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| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 15:47 - Dec 29 with 3352 views | Benters2 |
Thank you Ian Milne. | | | |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 16:10 - Dec 29 with 3294 views | J2BLUE |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 15:45 - Dec 29 by TractorWood |
It's irrelevant how much we spend, we need to improve the squad. However, the pool of players who would improve us but would also want to sign for us in our current position and up for sale must be tiny. There's also a paradox between loan players who will come in brimming with steel on a really short term deal.
Ipswich bias aside, If I'm a free agent or a talented youngster for a loan. I wouldn't touch us with a bargepole. [Post edited 29 Dec 2018 15:47]
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Do people even read my posts?
That's exactly what i'm saying. We're unlikely to get marquee loans and we're unlikely to spend big. Our signings will likely be reserve team players from mid table Championship sides. My point is simply that although they will likely seem uninspiring they could well be exactly what we need to get out of this. The usual suspects are just waiting for our first signing to go off on one.
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| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 16:17 - Dec 29 with 3280 views | TractorWood |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 16:10 - Dec 29 by J2BLUE |
Do people even read my posts?
That's exactly what i'm saying. We're unlikely to get marquee loans and we're unlikely to spend big. Our signings will likely be reserve team players from mid table Championship sides. My point is simply that although they will likely seem uninspiring they could well be exactly what we need to get out of this. The usual suspects are just waiting for our first signing to go off on one.
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Yes, I was broadly agreeing but apologies for not announcing my agreement.
The only point I disagree with is that loan signings will have any steel. We are a basket case and no one with any sense would come here fired up for a seemingly insurmountable relegation battle.
I've not seen many people fired up, expecting a massive window. It's just not going to happen. A window that doesn't improve the squad seals our fate, to me. | |
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| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 16:20 - Dec 29 with 3259 views | J2BLUE |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 16:17 - Dec 29 by TractorWood |
Yes, I was broadly agreeing but apologies for not announcing my agreement.
The only point I disagree with is that loan signings will have any steel. We are a basket case and no one with any sense would come here fired up for a seemingly insurmountable relegation battle.
I've not seen many people fired up, expecting a massive window. It's just not going to happen. A window that doesn't improve the squad seals our fate, to me. |
It's not insurmountable right now.
Lose to Rotherham and Millwall and it might be time to admit defeat. Get 2 wins (I know, I know) and it will be far easier to bring people in. We could really do with a few goals going our way in the second half to take two points off Millwall and points off Reading and Rotherham. | |
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| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 16:29 - Dec 29 with 3239 views | TractorWood |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 16:20 - Dec 29 by J2BLUE |
It's not insurmountable right now.
Lose to Rotherham and Millwall and it might be time to admit defeat. Get 2 wins (I know, I know) and it will be far easier to bring people in. We could really do with a few goals going our way in the second half to take two points off Millwall and points off Reading and Rotherham. |
Town bias aside, it looks insurmountable if you're a free agent or a youngster at a decent club and have only had a glance at our squad and the table.
It's the same as glancing at the Prem and saying Huddersfield look toast. It's just a fairly clear observation.
Results are hugely going against us today too. [Post edited 29 Dec 2018 16:30]
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| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 16:34 - Dec 29 with 3211 views | J2BLUE |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 16:29 - Dec 29 by TractorWood |
Town bias aside, it looks insurmountable if you're a free agent or a youngster at a decent club and have only had a glance at our squad and the table.
It's the same as glancing at the Prem and saying Huddersfield look toast. It's just a fairly clear observation.
Results are hugely going against us today too. [Post edited 29 Dec 2018 16:30]
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If you just want to play football there's no reason we can't get loans from Championship clubs and no reason free agents wouldn't join us. It's their job after all and they need to work.
I don't think we'll be targeting youngsters. | |
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| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 16:36 - Dec 29 with 3201 views | TractorWood |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 16:34 - Dec 29 by J2BLUE |
If you just want to play football there's no reason we can't get loans from Championship clubs and no reason free agents wouldn't join us. It's their job after all and they need to work.
I don't think we'll be targeting youngsters. |
Indeed. However, if you've got 2/3 offers, why would you choose Ipswich? | |
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| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 16:42 - Dec 29 with 3179 views | J2BLUE |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 16:36 - Dec 29 by TractorWood |
Indeed. However, if you've got 2/3 offers, why would you choose Ipswich? |
No idea. If it was a choice of Ipswich or a mid table team probably not. Ipswich or a league one team, possibly.
Who knows. Lets just hope we can get something done. Some managers might even prefer a character building relegation battle for their player? I'm really clutching at those straws! | |
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| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 16:44 - Dec 29 with 3167 views | soclopath |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 13:38 - Dec 29 by thebooks |
Not really sure any expectations to be managed. It's obvious we need a striker, some experience in midfield and two defenders in on loan.
If Evans is bothered about keeping us in this league that's what he'll need to fund. If he doesn't he can feck off forever, expectations or not. [Post edited 29 Dec 2018 13:40]
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No expectations most have rumbled Statements from Evans,mumbling From Milne and press conferences from Lambert it's all b.s. And Properganda.Clubs been ruined and none of the fore mentioned have the guts to acknowledge the fact.Who's willing to come to a sinking ship,all clubs know we are more than desperate asking crazy money for loans and Evans won't play ball,we will in Div1. | | | |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 17:12 - Dec 29 with 3125 views | tractorboy1978 |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 16:10 - Dec 29 by J2BLUE |
Do people even read my posts?
That's exactly what i'm saying. We're unlikely to get marquee loans and we're unlikely to spend big. Our signings will likely be reserve team players from mid table Championship sides. My point is simply that although they will likely seem uninspiring they could well be exactly what we need to get out of this. The usual suspects are just waiting for our first signing to go off on one.
Do you agree? |
Decent Championship reserves are going to cost decent money. People talk about Gestede - he cost Boro £6m and is on a wage well above our highest earners. | | | |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 17:39 - Dec 29 with 3085 views | Benters2 |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 16:44 - Dec 29 by soclopath |
No expectations most have rumbled Statements from Evans,mumbling From Milne and press conferences from Lambert it's all b.s. And Properganda.Clubs been ruined and none of the fore mentioned have the guts to acknowledge the fact.Who's willing to come to a sinking ship,all clubs know we are more than desperate asking crazy money for loans and Evans won't play ball,we will in Div1. |
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| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 17:49 - Dec 29 with 3057 views | carlisleaway |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 17:39 - Dec 29 by Benters2 |
This. |
When Hugill was up for transfer we could not afford him and that is just one of the reasons why we are in the position we stand. Look at the number of times today his name was mentioned while putting our defence under pressure.
I am afraid that Marcus Evans has to take a good look at himself and ask do I really want to own a football club. What has this club achieved since his takeover, as mentioned on Suffolk Radio we could go down and become another Coventry or Portsmouth. You also have to ask yourself who would want to buy into this club in the position we stand.
Our only strength maybe the number of youth players coming through the system at present, but they have to be backed up by senior pros who want to play for Ipswich. It is a very sad time to be an Ipswich fan at the moment | | | |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 17:52 - Dec 29 with 3050 views | J2BLUE |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 17:49 - Dec 29 by carlisleaway |
When Hugill was up for transfer we could not afford him and that is just one of the reasons why we are in the position we stand. Look at the number of times today his name was mentioned while putting our defence under pressure.
I am afraid that Marcus Evans has to take a good look at himself and ask do I really want to own a football club. What has this club achieved since his takeover, as mentioned on Suffolk Radio we could go down and become another Coventry or Portsmouth. You also have to ask yourself who would want to buy into this club in the position we stand.
Our only strength maybe the number of youth players coming through the system at present, but they have to be backed up by senior pros who want to play for Ipswich. It is a very sad time to be an Ipswich fan at the moment |
Thing is though, do we think Evans is happy with the current situation? Your question about whether he wants to own a football club, the answer is probably no but he needs someone to want to own the club in order to get rid of it. If you can send any realistic buyers his way he'd probably be grateful. | |
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| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 17:58 - Dec 29 with 3031 views | carlisleaway |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 17:52 - Dec 29 by J2BLUE |
Thing is though, do we think Evans is happy with the current situation? Your question about whether he wants to own a football club, the answer is probably no but he needs someone to want to own the club in order to get rid of it. If you can send any realistic buyers his way he'd probably be grateful. |
Problem we have J2 Marcus Evans only speaks twice a year and who knows what is going through his mind........ | | | |
| People really need to manage their expectations with our transfers on 18:00 - Dec 29 with 3021 views | Darth_Koont |
McGoldrick and Murphy were free (admittedly their wages weren't bargain basement) so there's clearly no need to spend transfer money if players like that can be available.
The important thing is for Lambert to identify the types of player who can lift the team and give us much more of a cutting edge, not necessarily splashing money on better versions of what we already have.
I'd say currently we're lacking a natural targetman, a natural attacking midfielder and a natural defensive rock. A natural goalscorer would be nice as well but that's a bit of a longer shot and won't matter anyway if we don't get the first three to provide a platform. |  |
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