| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 10:54 - Dec 29 with 1273 views | StokieBlue |
I don't understand what the delay is in implementing tier 4 across the country. It's inevitable, multiple teams of modellers have said it's the absolute least that is required along with (unfortunately) closing schools if there is any hope of getting R<1 given the new variant.
Just looking at NthQldITFC local covid modelling link it says there are ~1150 cases per 100,000 here (it's never been that high) with an R of approximately 1.6 even with tier 4.
The longer things are delayed the worse it's going to get in the hospitals. They seem to be treating it like it's the same virus as in April and that is unfortunately not the case.
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| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 10:57 - Dec 29 with 1251 views | Radlett_blue |
What happened to all these Nightingale hospitals which were hastily erected? Or have the government realised that a hospital without staff to run it is as near useless as can be? |  |
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| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 11:24 - Dec 29 with 1212 views | Mookamoo |
| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 10:57 - Dec 29 by Radlett_blue |
What happened to all these Nightingale hospitals which were hastily erected? Or have the government realised that a hospital without staff to run it is as near useless as can be? |
Any ex-clinical staff from my wife's NHS trust that are willing to come back are getting ready to administer the vaccine. Very few want anything to do with the Covid wards. |  | | |
| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 11:36 - Dec 29 with 1169 views | Freddies_Ears |
| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 10:57 - Dec 29 by Radlett_blue |
What happened to all these Nightingale hospitals which were hastily erected? Or have the government realised that a hospital without staff to run it is as near useless as can be? |
They are being dismantled, as it is clear that there are insufficient staff to run them. Makes me wonder whether their construction was merely for political purposes? |  | | |
| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 11:43 - Dec 29 with 1145 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
He's a Sir now so it's allowed! |  |
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| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 11:45 - Dec 29 with 1134 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 11:36 - Dec 29 by Freddies_Ears |
They are being dismantled, as it is clear that there are insufficient staff to run them. Makes me wonder whether their construction was merely for political purposes? |
...it seems we have no army medical corp. either! | |
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| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 11:58 - Dec 29 with 1103 views | Mookamoo |
| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 11:45 - Dec 29 by BanksterDebtSlave |
...it seems we have no army medical corp. either! |
The cavalry are the St John's Ambulance. They're the ones who have been called to arms. They've abandoned the hospitals in favour of getting the vaccine out. | | | |
| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 12:11 - Dec 29 with 1071 views | eastwell_blue |
| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 10:54 - Dec 29 by StokieBlue |
I don't understand what the delay is in implementing tier 4 across the country. It's inevitable, multiple teams of modellers have said it's the absolute least that is required along with (unfortunately) closing schools if there is any hope of getting R<1 given the new variant.
Just looking at NthQldITFC local covid modelling link it says there are ~1150 cases per 100,000 here (it's never been that high) with an R of approximately 1.6 even with tier 4.
The longer things are delayed the worse it's going to get in the hospitals. They seem to be treating it like it's the same virus as in April and that is unfortunately not the case.
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With this Government's record of leaving decisions until too late and you don't understand the delay? | | | |
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| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 12:15 - Dec 29 with 1044 views | StokieBlue |
| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 12:11 - Dec 29 by eastwell_blue |
With this Government's record of leaving decisions until too late and you don't understand the delay? |
Well yes, however the discussions don't even seem to be happening.
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| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 12:19 - Dec 29 with 1035 views | eastwell_blue |
| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 12:15 - Dec 29 by StokieBlue |
Well yes, however the discussions don't even seem to be happening.
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Does this Government discuss anything with anyone except if it involves dishing out cash to their friends? | | | |
| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 12:33 - Dec 29 with 994 views | NthQldITFC |
| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 12:19 - Dec 29 by eastwell_blue |
Does this Government discuss anything with anyone except if it involves dishing out cash to their friends? |
If I had the ear of Johnson I'd tell him that I'm willing to put aside all of my (justified imho) prejudices against him, and give him a hearty, unconditional "Well done Boris", if he can act swiftly and decisively today to put heavy transmission supression measures in place immediately.
Failure to act swiftly and decisively once again, is imho, tantamount to a crime against the people of this country.
But we all have to try to speak and act from an open and free-minded position, rather than an entrenched egotistical place, more so now than ever. |  |
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| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 12:37 - Dec 29 with 981 views | StokieBlue |
| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 12:33 - Dec 29 by NthQldITFC |
If I had the ear of Johnson I'd tell him that I'm willing to put aside all of my (justified imho) prejudices against him, and give him a hearty, unconditional "Well done Boris", if he can act swiftly and decisively today to put heavy transmission supression measures in place immediately.
Failure to act swiftly and decisively once again, is imho, tantamount to a crime against the people of this country.
But we all have to try to speak and act from an open and free-minded position, rather than an entrenched egotistical place, more so now than ever. |
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/29/tier-5-england-faces-possible-new-
Pretty much all the experts are now saying tier 4 won't bring the R below 1 given the new variant and that all of England should already be tier 4 and that there should be a tier 5 which is basically closing schools and pretty much anything else that can close I assume.
It needs to be done today like you've said and a lot of people won't like it, but hard to see there is any other reasonable course of action.
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| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 12:48 - Dec 29 with 953 views | giant_stow |
Seeing a few anecdotal reports that both the two local hospitals (whipps cross and homerton) are full and sending ambulances elsewhere. |  |
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| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 15:55 - Dec 29 with 832 views | StokieBlue |
| Piece in the Independent on the situation in hospitals now on 12:48 - Dec 29 by giant_stow |
Seeing a few anecdotal reports that both the two local hospitals (whipps cross and homerton) are full and sending ambulances elsewhere. |
Unfortunately it's probably true, they had to close their children's ward about a week ago:
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