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This is quite upsetting to read 19:04 - Aug 5 with 1081 viewsgtsb1966

and I can't understand how this isn't murder which would carry a longer sentence. I cannot get my head around how a human being can do this. It's incomprehensible. I hope they both have the worse death possible ....and soon.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-58106169
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This is quite upsetting to read on 19:21 - Aug 5 with 1012 viewsfactual_blue

I haven't read the details of the case, but reading the law relating to murder and manslaughter, plus the respective guidelines on sentencing would be the way forward.

This is a good starting point

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/homicide-murder-and-manslaughter

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This is quite upsetting to read on 19:22 - Aug 5 with 998 viewsEireannach_gorm

"...smacked her for [dirtying] her nappy."
"Good - give her one from me."
Two pieces of sh1t get off lightly. Not sure how the historical injuries did not confirm murder.
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This is quite upsetting to read on 19:23 - Aug 5 with 992 viewstextbackup

with a bit of luck they get stuck in a cell with someone horrific, and take years of beatings and other sorts of prison hammerings

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This is quite upsetting to read on 19:27 - Aug 5 with 974 viewsgtsb1966

This is quite upsetting to read on 19:21 - Aug 5 by factual_blue

I haven't read the details of the case, but reading the law relating to murder and manslaughter, plus the respective guidelines on sentencing would be the way forward.

This is a good starting point

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/homicide-murder-and-manslaughter


Thanks. I know I'm ruling with my heart and not my head but I found that read upsetting and that's unusual for me. The law is the law. I don't know what the maximum sentence is for manslaughter but it won't be enough for these two c**** that's for sure.
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This is quite upsetting to read on 19:33 - Aug 5 with 946 viewsfactual_blue

This is quite upsetting to read on 19:27 - Aug 5 by gtsb1966

Thanks. I know I'm ruling with my heart and not my head but I found that read upsetting and that's unusual for me. The law is the law. I don't know what the maximum sentence is for manslaughter but it won't be enough for these two c**** that's for sure.
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I understand. Perhaps the thing to remember is that, however horrific any given crime is, there's very likely to be one more serious. The question then is, if you go to the hilt for the first offence, where do you go for the even worse one? I guess that's why we have judges who see large numbers of cases and so have the ability to rank them, if you see what I mean.

We also can't be sure the jury took the evidence into account in the right way: the jury's workings are secret.

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This is quite upsetting to read on 19:37 - Aug 5 with 928 viewsWD19

This is quite upsetting to read on 19:27 - Aug 5 by gtsb1966

Thanks. I know I'm ruling with my heart and not my head but I found that read upsetting and that's unusual for me. The law is the law. I don't know what the maximum sentence is for manslaughter but it won't be enough for these two c**** that's for sure.
[Post edited 5 Aug 2021 19:32]


The maximum sentence available to the judge is life imprisonment. The ‘average’ sentence in the UK is 15 years. I am guessing they won’t be out anytime soon.
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This is quite upsetting to read on 19:39 - Aug 5 with 911 viewsgtsb1966

This is quite upsetting to read on 19:37 - Aug 5 by WD19

The maximum sentence available to the judge is life imprisonment. The ‘average’ sentence in the UK is 15 years. I am guessing they won’t be out anytime soon.


If it's 15 years it's woefully lenient in this case.
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This is quite upsetting to read on 20:40 - Aug 5 with 789 viewsnoggin

This is quite upsetting to read on 19:39 - Aug 5 by gtsb1966

If it's 15 years it's woefully lenient in this case.


It'll be a brutal 15 years when the other inmates hear what their crime was.

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