| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games 23:06 - Apr 9 with 2475 views | ArnieM |
From winning positions I believe s as bd was heavily criticised for this ?
That same problem STILL exists under McKenna.
So given that McKenna is a better coach , it must be down to “player profiles” ( to quote a KMcK terminology) within the squad.
Hopefully this will be addressed in the summer, because until we can finish teams off by sticking the ball in the net, those % possession stats mean bug ger all ….. |  |
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| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 23:44 - Apr 9 with 2384 views | benrhyddingblue |
Seriously, It’s happened twice in 19 games. Hardly the same at all. |  | | |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 23:47 - Apr 9 with 2376 views | pointofblue |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 23:44 - Apr 9 by benrhyddingblue |
Seriously, It’s happened twice in 19 games. Hardly the same at all. |
I was going to say that too, except it depends what is meant by 'dropped' points - in terms of not winning we've had Bolton, Wednesday, MK Dons, Cheltenham, Morecambe, Portsmouth, Oxford, Cambridge and Shrewsbury, so 9 out of 19. | |
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| Even though McKenna is down to 1.8ish ppg; that would still place us above Weds on 23:52 - Apr 9 with 2372 views | unstableblue |
Over games to date |  |
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| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 06:35 - Apr 10 with 2259 views | ArnieM |
Well it appears the EADT has a similar view to the one I’ve posted at the top of this thread . The facts are there for all to see. And it’s happened under two different managers , with differing coaching credentials and with the same squad.
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town/stu-says-shrewsbury-1-itfc-1-8888716 | |
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| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 07:50 - Apr 10 with 2156 views | nshearman1 |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 06:35 - Apr 10 by ArnieM |
Well it appears the EADT has a similar view to the one I’ve posted at the top of this thread . The facts are there for all to see. And it’s happened under two different managers , with differing coaching credentials and with the same squad.
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town/stu-says-shrewsbury-1-itfc-1-8888716 |
Totally agree with this - but for the first time in many many years, I expect the Manager and owners to sort this out in the summer. This is still largely a team and squad inherited by McKenna. | | | |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 09:30 - Apr 10 with 1998 views | benrhyddingblue |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 06:35 - Apr 10 by ArnieM |
Well it appears the EADT has a similar view to the one I’ve posted at the top of this thread . The facts are there for all to see. And it’s happened under two different managers , with differing coaching credentials and with the same squad.
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town/stu-says-shrewsbury-1-itfc-1-8888716 |
Oh so it must be right then because the media said so.
Fact is McKenna’s teams have dropped points twice from winning positions; on nine other occasions we have scored first and won. Does every other team that scores first then go on to win the game, sometimes but not always? On 10 occasions this season prior to McKenna coming did we ‘drop’ points from winning positions; so on the current available data we have improved regarding this issue.
The team’s problem as everyone knows is not killing off games we are dominating. Solve that and there won’t be any issue about dropping points from winning positions. We won’t know if that is solved until we’ll into next season. [Post edited 10 Apr 2022 9:47]
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| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 09:35 - Apr 10 with 1983 views | benrhyddingblue |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 23:47 - Apr 9 by pointofblue |
I was going to say that too, except it depends what is meant by 'dropped' points - in terms of not winning we've had Bolton, Wednesday, MK Dons, Cheltenham, Morecambe, Portsmouth, Oxford, Cambridge and Shrewsbury, so 9 out of 19. |
In the games you mention, only twice were we leading. So it’s not throwing points away from winning positions. It’s dropping points yes but not from winning positions. And the Wednesday games for instance we were lucky to just lose 1.0 | | | |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 09:35 - Apr 10 with 1983 views | pointofblue |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 09:30 - Apr 10 by benrhyddingblue |
Oh so it must be right then because the media said so.
Fact is McKenna’s teams have dropped points twice from winning positions; on nine other occasions we have scored first and won. Does every other team that scores first then go on to win the game, sometimes but not always? On 10 occasions this season prior to McKenna coming did we ‘drop’ points from winning positions; so on the current available data we have improved regarding this issue.
The team’s problem as everyone knows is not killing off games we are dominating. Solve that and there won’t be any issue about dropping points from winning positions. We won’t know if that is solved until we’ll into next season. [Post edited 10 Apr 2022 9:47]
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The issues we have at the moment is if we concede we more often than not fail to win (we’ve only won one game where we’ve conceded a goal) and we struggle to pick up points if we concede first - four points out of a possible 15. | |
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| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 09:48 - Apr 10 with 1957 views | benrhyddingblue |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 09:35 - Apr 10 by pointofblue |
The issues we have at the moment is if we concede we more often than not fail to win (we’ve only won one game where we’ve conceded a goal) and we struggle to pick up points if we concede first - four points out of a possible 15. |
Yes, that’s a fair point, and stems from our lack of goals | | | |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 10:30 - Apr 10 with 1922 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 09:48 - Apr 10 by benrhyddingblue |
Yes, that’s a fair point, and stems from our lack of goals |
We have gone behind in 17 games this season and only won 2 of them.
This, and our inability to score from dead ball situations are our two biggest weaknesses both of which KMc is well aware . We have also drawn, often 0-0, against weaker opposition
I’m confident they will all be addressed before next season gets underway. |  |
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| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 11:55 - Apr 10 with 1846 views | Stewart27 |
This stat is not a stick to beat McKenna with. Twice in 19 games under him. It happens occasionally.
We’ve simply not scored enough goals. I’m certain this will be addressed.
The best stat to sum up McKenna’s era so far is 2 points per game. We’re in safe hands. | | | |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 12:16 - Apr 10 with 1812 views | AlanG296 |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 11:55 - Apr 10 by Stewart27 |
This stat is not a stick to beat McKenna with. Twice in 19 games under him. It happens occasionally.
We’ve simply not scored enough goals. I’m certain this will be addressed.
The best stat to sum up McKenna’s era so far is 2 points per game. We’re in safe hands. |
And in those 19 he hasn't played 3 of the top 6 and got to play Gillingham twice. | | | |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 13:46 - Apr 10 with 1739 views | LeoMuff |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 11:55 - Apr 10 by Stewart27 |
This stat is not a stick to beat McKenna with. Twice in 19 games under him. It happens occasionally.
We’ve simply not scored enough goals. I’m certain this will be addressed.
The best stat to sum up McKenna’s era so far is 2 points per game. We’re in safe hands. |
Pendant point of order now 1.89 ppg |  |
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| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 13:57 - Apr 10 with 1722 views | AlanG296 |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 13:46 - Apr 10 by LeoMuff |
Pendant point of order now 1.89 ppg |
And falling. | | | |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 14:12 - Apr 10 with 1691 views | BarcaBlue |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 13:57 - Apr 10 by AlanG296 |
And falling. |
Of course it will fall after a loss and a draw, just like it would rise if we won a couple of the next games. Get some perspective. |  | | |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 14:35 - Apr 10 with 1659 views | pointofblue |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 14:12 - Apr 10 by BarcaBlue |
Of course it will fall after a loss and a draw, just like it would rise if we won a couple of the next games. Get some perspective. |
Yes, that's what tends to happen with ppg - poor results see it go down, good results see it go up. No perspective needed beyond that; our form has dipped of late. [Post edited 10 Apr 2022 14:40]
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| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 14:38 - Apr 10 with 1655 views | AlanG296 |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 14:12 - Apr 10 by BarcaBlue |
Of course it will fall after a loss and a draw, just like it would rise if we won a couple of the next games. Get some perspective. |
Just giving the 2pts per game claim some perspective. | | | |
| Under Cook Town dropped something like 15 points from those first 6-8 games on 15:37 - Apr 10 with 1576 views | rgp1 |
I would suggest cook dropped somewhere between 22 and 24 points at the start of the season. However some of those results could be arguable. Whilst McKenna has done well hes no Guardiola. Still in a learning curve and will make mistakes. Unfortunately many in our club think he can walk on water like most thought about his predecessors. The key is how people react if we go on a losing run. | | | |
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