| Officers did nothing wrong on 14:47 - Aug 24 with 1370 views | DanTheMan |
"One officer involved was subject to the reflective practice, meaning he was asked to think about his actions."
Goodness me, what a pathetic punishment. |  |
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| Officers did nothing wrong on 14:54 - Aug 24 with 1332 views | jeera |
| Officers did nothing wrong on 14:47 - Aug 24 by DanTheMan |
"One officer involved was subject to the reflective practice, meaning he was asked to think about his actions."
Goodness me, what a pathetic punishment. |
Way to go about regaining public trust huh?
If you didn't know the outcome, reading through that and knowing that the man had died, you would firmly believe the officers involved would be in deep sh1t.
They didn't not only ignore his pleas they actively mocked him whilst he was dying.
This can't be the end of this surely? |  |
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| Officers did nothing wrong on 15:40 - Aug 24 with 1238 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Officers did nothing wrong on 14:54 - Aug 24 by jeera |
Way to go about regaining public trust huh?
If you didn't know the outcome, reading through that and knowing that the man had died, you would firmly believe the officers involved would be in deep sh1t.
They didn't not only ignore his pleas they actively mocked him whilst he was dying.
This can't be the end of this surely? |
Met Police is now in Special Measures. This is yet more evidence of why. Not just the failure to act by 7 (SEVEN) Police Officers, but the obvious failing of a report which makes a medical judgement that the Police Officers' actions didn't contribute to the death (without waiting for the Coroners report) and the self-serving bias in concluding that this was acceptable policing. |  | | |
| Officers did nothing wrong on 15:48 - Aug 24 with 1209 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Officers did nothing wrong on 14:47 - Aug 24 by DanTheMan |
"One officer involved was subject to the reflective practice, meaning he was asked to think about his actions."
Goodness me, what a pathetic punishment. |
One would hope that all 7 officers would automatically do this without needing to be told to.
It is clear that reflective practice is not a punishment.
I get that they may have genuinely believed the man was not in any real distress but he died as a result of their failure to believe him. I trust the coroner has far stronger words and that there are criminal charges to be faced. I trust that then leads to the body that has passed this judgment being completely annihilated - with the people who sat on it facing very severe repercussions.
How can a man's life be considered so cheap? |  |
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| Officers did nothing wrong on 15:55 - Aug 24 with 1159 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
This is manslaughter to me, plain and simple.
Who is the IOPC made up of? Is it former police officers?
If so I would question its alleged independence. Policing in this country is a mess and the refusal of forces to acknowledge any wrong doing at any point further undermines an already strained public trust.
This reminds me of the custody office who kept his job and was not not convinced of assault (on appeal) despite CCTV showing him a drag a woman across the station floor by her hair, just one of many examples.
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| Officers did nothing wrong on 16:19 - Aug 24 with 1117 views | bluelagos |
| Officers did nothing wrong on 15:48 - Aug 24 by Nthsuffolkblue |
One would hope that all 7 officers would automatically do this without needing to be told to.
It is clear that reflective practice is not a punishment.
I get that they may have genuinely believed the man was not in any real distress but he died as a result of their failure to believe him. I trust the coroner has far stronger words and that there are criminal charges to be faced. I trust that then leads to the body that has passed this judgment being completely annihilated - with the people who sat on it facing very severe repercussions.
How can a man's life be considered so cheap? |
"I trust the coroner has far stronger words and that there are criminal charges to be faced."
Why do think there will be criminal charges? No one is even under investigation.
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"I trust that then leads to the body that has passed this judgment being completely annihilated - with the people who sat on it facing very severe repercussions."
If you think the IOPC face consequences for their decision making, I fear you will be disappointed.
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I know nobody who has had dealings with them think they are either independent and/or competent. My six complaints remain unreported on after 8 years. |  |
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| Officers did nothing wrong on 22:04 - Aug 24 with 929 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Officers did nothing wrong on 16:19 - Aug 24 by bluelagos |
"I trust the coroner has far stronger words and that there are criminal charges to be faced."
Why do think there will be criminal charges? No one is even under investigation.
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"I trust that then leads to the body that has passed this judgment being completely annihilated - with the people who sat on it facing very severe repercussions."
If you think the IOPC face consequences for their decision making, I fear you will be disappointed.
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I know nobody who has had dealings with them think they are either independent and/or competent. My six complaints remain unreported on after 8 years. |
Surely if the coroner were to give a verdict that the conduct contributed to death that would enable the family to act even if it didn't force the CPS to investigate.
Am I being too naïve? Does the coroner have no power of reference? | |
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| Officers did nothing wrong on 22:06 - Aug 24 with 923 views | jeera |
| Officers did nothing wrong on 22:04 - Aug 24 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Surely if the coroner were to give a verdict that the conduct contributed to death that would enable the family to act even if it didn't force the CPS to investigate.
Am I being too naïve? Does the coroner have no power of reference? |
You would think there would be a case for a civil route if nothing else.
But that's maybe wishful thinking that there's a way to justice one way or another, when we know life isn't like that. | |
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| Officers did nothing wrong on 22:41 - Aug 24 with 874 views | HARRY10 |
Nothing new I'm afraid. Not so much what happened, as the deaths of black men in custody bear witness to, but the closing ranks, cover ups.
made worse when you have a black MP demanding that it no longer exists and even when history shows it was systemic in the colonies, it should not be taught.
If we are not to even know of our history then how the hell are we to confront, and bring to an end acts like this ? | | | |
| Officers did nothing wrong on 10:05 - Aug 25 with 747 views | bluelagos |
| Officers did nothing wrong on 22:06 - Aug 24 by jeera |
You would think there would be a case for a civil route if nothing else.
But that's maybe wishful thinking that there's a way to justice one way or another, when we know life isn't like that. |
Civil case could easily follow, but that would be against the Police rather than the individual officers. Wouldn't expect a quick conclusion either. | |
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| Officers did nothing wrong on 10:10 - Aug 25 with 741 views | bluelagos |
| Officers did nothing wrong on 22:04 - Aug 24 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Surely if the coroner were to give a verdict that the conduct contributed to death that would enable the family to act even if it didn't force the CPS to investigate.
Am I being too naïve? Does the coroner have no power of reference? |
So the CPS don't investigate - the police and/or IOPC do. The CPS prosecute if their tests for prosecution are met.
So given that neither IOPC or police are investigating - then there is nil prospect of the CPS taking on a prosecution as it stands.
As for the family "acting" - not sure what avenues you think are available to victims of crime. They could go down a civil route of claims against the police but as far as criminal investigations / prosecutions - victims have very few powers. | |
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| Officers did nothing wrong on 10:47 - Aug 25 with 700 views | bluelagos |
| Officers did nothing wrong on 10:10 - Aug 25 by bluelagos |
So the CPS don't investigate - the police and/or IOPC do. The CPS prosecute if their tests for prosecution are met.
So given that neither IOPC or police are investigating - then there is nil prospect of the CPS taking on a prosecution as it stands.
As for the family "acting" - not sure what avenues you think are available to victims of crime. They could go down a civil route of claims against the police but as far as criminal investigations / prosecutions - victims have very few powers. |
Report for anyone interested.
https://www.policeconduct.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Coldharbour%20Lane%20-%20in | |
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