| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? 11:40 - Dec 3 with 4117 views | FrimleyBlue |
Can see Humphreys is tracking his runner, can see jackson isnt tight to the goal scorer.. ...
all he has to do is move across with a bit of effort and get a block in. |  |
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| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:45 - Dec 3 with 2954 views | clive_baker |
Or more the point Jackson has to show him down the line rather than infield. It’s so basic but honestly so poor. |  |
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| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:47 - Dec 3 with 2936 views | LankHenners |
Next to no point replying but no, clearly Morsy isn't anywhere near being at fault for that - once the player cuts in there's no chance he gets across to block that even if he sprints and lunges at him.
You can say Jackson lets him cut inside too easily if you want to pinpoint blame but that would still be slightly harsh and it's clearly a very lucky goal to score. [Post edited 3 Dec 2022 11:47]
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| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:49 - Dec 3 with 2921 views | AlanG296 |
Very unsportsmanlike behaviour. He shot from well outside the box. Surely that's not allowed these days. |  | | |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:52 - Dec 3 with 2889 views | PJH |
Morsy is at fault for losing the toss and therefore attacking the North Stand in the first half. |  | | |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:52 - Dec 3 with 2887 views | pointofblue |
If you’re going to blame anyone for not rushing in to block, surely Leigh is more culpable than Morsy? And even that is probably being unfair.
We defended the move fine except for Jackson inexplicably not showing him down the line. | |
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| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:52 - Dec 3 with 2887 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:47 - Dec 3 by LankHenners |
Next to no point replying but no, clearly Morsy isn't anywhere near being at fault for that - once the player cuts in there's no chance he gets across to block that even if he sprints and lunges at him.
You can say Jackson lets him cut inside too easily if you want to pinpoint blame but that would still be slightly harsh and it's clearly a very lucky goal to score. [Post edited 3 Dec 2022 11:47]
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But as soon as he cuts in, Morsy should be getting across no? he might not have made the block but he might have made the player think again about shooting.
I don't personally see how it's a luck goal tbh, we've allowed him space to shoot. | |
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| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:53 - Dec 3 with 2881 views | Steve_M |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:47 - Dec 3 by LankHenners |
Next to no point replying but no, clearly Morsy isn't anywhere near being at fault for that - once the player cuts in there's no chance he gets across to block that even if he sprints and lunges at him.
You can say Jackson lets him cut inside too easily if you want to pinpoint blame but that would still be slightly harsh and it's clearly a very lucky goal to score. [Post edited 3 Dec 2022 11:47]
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Indeed, the deflection put it in the only place between Walton reaching that and hitting the post and going out again. That and Camara’s shot against Cheltenham, millimetres from having another four points despite everything else. |  |
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| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:54 - Dec 3 with 2867 views | pointofblue |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:52 - Dec 3 by FrimleyBlue |
But as soon as he cuts in, Morsy should be getting across no? he might not have made the block but he might have made the player think again about shooting.
I don't personally see how it's a luck goal tbh, we've allowed him space to shoot. |
Only if he’s Usain Bolt.
I thought Morsy was poor last night but he was not at fault for the goal. | |
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| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:55 - Dec 3 with 2868 views | LankHenners |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:52 - Dec 3 by FrimleyBlue |
But as soon as he cuts in, Morsy should be getting across no? he might not have made the block but he might have made the player think again about shooting.
I don't personally see how it's a luck goal tbh, we've allowed him space to shoot. |
Pure conjecture with no basis in reality. He wouldn't suddenly not shoot because someone runs at him from side-on, if anything he'd get the shot away quicker.
We let him cut inside too easily but the shot from there is very lucky and it's madness to say otherwise. | |
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| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:55 - Dec 3 with 2857 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:52 - Dec 3 by pointofblue |
If you’re going to blame anyone for not rushing in to block, surely Leigh is more culpable than Morsy? And even that is probably being unfair.
We defended the move fine except for Jackson inexplicably not showing him down the line. |
I dunno, i've always understood that if a player cuts in, one midfielder follows the runner and the other comes across to close down the player with the ball.
Im not quite sure on leigh.. should he have come forward or was he correct in tracking back to assist humphreys with the runner? | |
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| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:56 - Dec 3 with 2853 views | LankHenners |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:49 - Dec 3 by AlanG296 |
Very unsportsmanlike behaviour. He shot from well outside the box. Surely that's not allowed these days. |
Going by WhoScored we've scored the joint most goals from outside the box in the league (10). | |
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| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:59 - Dec 3 with 2825 views | LankHenners |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:53 - Dec 3 by Steve_M |
Indeed, the deflection put it in the only place between Walton reaching that and hitting the post and going out again. That and Camara’s shot against Cheltenham, millimetres from having another four points despite everything else. |
Yep, you can see why McKenna's frustrated that those little margins just don't seem to be falling our way at the moment. Even the very best teams need a touch of luck at the right times to get things over the line. | |
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| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 12:00 - Dec 3 with 2818 views | Bent_double |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:53 - Dec 3 by Steve_M |
Indeed, the deflection put it in the only place between Walton reaching that and hitting the post and going out again. That and Camara’s shot against Cheltenham, millimetres from having another four points despite everything else. |
It's almost like there's a curse on us preventing us from ever succeeding again.  |  |
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| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 12:12 - Dec 3 with 2760 views | AlanG296 |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:56 - Dec 3 by LankHenners |
Going by WhoScored we've scored the joint most goals from outside the box in the league (10). |
Stat distorted by 7 in away games which I don't attend. Only 3 at home which I do attend. Perhaps it's easier to shoot score away? | | | |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 12:16 - Dec 3 with 2729 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:55 - Dec 3 by LankHenners |
Pure conjecture with no basis in reality. He wouldn't suddenly not shoot because someone runs at him from side-on, if anything he'd get the shot away quicker.
We let him cut inside too easily but the shot from there is very lucky and it's madness to say otherwise. |
but a quicker shot might not have got deflected etc, been saved etc, mis hit etc etc
they say you make your own luck... imo this is perfect example.
4 seconds from cut in to shot, imo that's enough time for Morsy to do more.
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| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 12:19 - Dec 3 with 2706 views | LankHenners |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 12:16 - Dec 3 by FrimleyBlue |
but a quicker shot might not have got deflected etc, been saved etc, mis hit etc etc
they say you make your own luck... imo this is perfect example.
4 seconds from cut in to shot, imo that's enough time for Morsy to do more.
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He might have got it in anyway, who knows.
If we took your logic to its natural end point then you think we should win every game without conceding a goal. It's just taking the most negative view on absolutely everything right down to the most granular details. | |
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| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 12:25 - Dec 3 with 2669 views | Simonds92 |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 11:54 - Dec 3 by pointofblue |
Only if he’s Usain Bolt.
I thought Morsy was poor last night but he was not at fault for the goal. |
Had this discussion after the game, I personally thought he was pretty much having to run the midfield himself second half as Humphreys went missing. | | | |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 12:26 - Dec 3 with 2664 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 12:19 - Dec 3 by LankHenners |
He might have got it in anyway, who knows.
If we took your logic to its natural end point then you think we should win every game without conceding a goal. It's just taking the most negative view on absolutely everything right down to the most granular details. |
No you will concede goals, but most in some way could have been stopped, could have started with a loose pass, could be a bounce etc, but there's always a reason..
In this phase, jackson leaves the gap.. problem 1. Problem 2 is no one closes down the scorer..
Km will be looking at that, and hopefully at some point he will instruct the players on what not to do in the final moments of games.
11 points having been dropped at home, five goals have now been conceded in the 89th minute or later this season.
That's not taking the most negative view on everything, it's just facts.
I hope KM is looking at everything right down to the most granular detail... that way we might not drop these points. | |
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| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 12:27 - Dec 3 with 2661 views | pointofblue |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 12:25 - Dec 3 by Simonds92 |
Had this discussion after the game, I personally thought he was pretty much having to run the midfield himself second half as Humphreys went missing. |
Oddly, I saw it the other way round. I thought Humphreys was doing a lot of work whilst Morsy didn’t have the impact he usually does.
Going off the ratings on here and on EADT I am in the minority on this one, though. | |
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| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 12:30 - Dec 3 with 2640 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 12:27 - Dec 3 by pointofblue |
Oddly, I saw it the other way round. I thought Humphreys was doing a lot of work whilst Morsy didn’t have the impact he usually does.
Going off the ratings on here and on EADT I am in the minority on this one, though. |
TBH i think its the Burns effect. Some players can be off form, yet still be seen as amazing.
I agree with yourself, Morsy 2nd half went missing and was to interested in rubbing shoulders with Batty rather than trying to drop to get the ball and help town to keep it.
When he got the ball at times, he was then floating balls in the air straight to fleetwood. | |
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| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 12:35 - Dec 3 with 2626 views | LankHenners |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 12:26 - Dec 3 by FrimleyBlue |
No you will concede goals, but most in some way could have been stopped, could have started with a loose pass, could be a bounce etc, but there's always a reason..
In this phase, jackson leaves the gap.. problem 1. Problem 2 is no one closes down the scorer..
Km will be looking at that, and hopefully at some point he will instruct the players on what not to do in the final moments of games.
11 points having been dropped at home, five goals have now been conceded in the 89th minute or later this season.
That's not taking the most negative view on everything, it's just facts.
I hope KM is looking at everything right down to the most granular detail... that way we might not drop these points. |
Those specific things are facts but the rest of it is your overly negative opinion that you put on everything and when picked up on it start complaining that people are shutting down debate or piling on. There's also facts like us being the top scorers in the league, averaging over 2 points a game, unbeaten in 6 etc. but you ignore them because you'd rather have a moan all day every day.
Goals can always be stopped if you over analysed everything but it's football, even the very best concede and concede some that will be viewed as poor from their POV. | |
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| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 13:31 - Dec 3 with 2483 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 12:35 - Dec 3 by LankHenners |
Those specific things are facts but the rest of it is your overly negative opinion that you put on everything and when picked up on it start complaining that people are shutting down debate or piling on. There's also facts like us being the top scorers in the league, averaging over 2 points a game, unbeaten in 6 etc. but you ignore them because you'd rather have a moan all day every day.
Goals can always be stopped if you over analysed everything but it's football, even the very best concede and concede some that will be viewed as poor from their POV. |
I mentioned the piling on as my name was mentioned in a thread that I wasn't involved in at the time.
And yes there are positives. it's fine if you wish to create a thread about it, but this one is about the goal we conceded and the poor way we conceded it and didn't appear to do certain things to stop it from happening. Again goals being conceded and discussions about them happens across all forums. You decided to view the thread and contribute to it, so not sure why you're now moaning that it doesn't suit your preferences of posts.
If you wish to start a thread on how great it was remain unbeaten with another draw, that's ok. | |
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| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 13:42 - Dec 3 with 2430 views | LankHenners |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 13:31 - Dec 3 by FrimleyBlue |
I mentioned the piling on as my name was mentioned in a thread that I wasn't involved in at the time.
And yes there are positives. it's fine if you wish to create a thread about it, but this one is about the goal we conceded and the poor way we conceded it and didn't appear to do certain things to stop it from happening. Again goals being conceded and discussions about them happens across all forums. You decided to view the thread and contribute to it, so not sure why you're now moaning that it doesn't suit your preferences of posts.
If you wish to start a thread on how great it was remain unbeaten with another draw, that's ok. |
This is a classic example, you claim you're starting discussions on something but when, as usual, someone disagrees with you you don't actually engage with the discussion, and instead double down, make things up about what they're saying, accuse them of moaning and say they should start another thread and not bother you.
Tedious, childish nonsense that the board could do without. | |
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| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 13:49 - Dec 3 with 2391 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 13:42 - Dec 3 by LankHenners |
This is a classic example, you claim you're starting discussions on something but when, as usual, someone disagrees with you you don't actually engage with the discussion, and instead double down, make things up about what they're saying, accuse them of moaning and say they should start another thread and not bother you.
Tedious, childish nonsense that the board could do without. |
Oh so you're upset I didnt bow down and say ok I'll change my opinion and follow yours?
you changed the context of the thread with your first input of "It's just taking the most negative view on absolutely everything right down to the most granular details."
Again, it's very clear what the thread it about, it's not going to be positive when its discussing the goal that cost us 3 points.
You then decided after your first input of my negativity by bringing up my other posts in other threads, so yes I agree what you've done is childish nonsense that the board could do without. | |
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| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 13:57 - Dec 3 with 2346 views | LankHenners |
| Morsy has to read the danger here doesn't he? on 13:49 - Dec 3 by FrimleyBlue |
Oh so you're upset I didnt bow down and say ok I'll change my opinion and follow yours?
you changed the context of the thread with your first input of "It's just taking the most negative view on absolutely everything right down to the most granular details."
Again, it's very clear what the thread it about, it's not going to be positive when its discussing the goal that cost us 3 points.
You then decided after your first input of my negativity by bringing up my other posts in other threads, so yes I agree what you've done is childish nonsense that the board could do without. |
Just proves my point and no reason to take this further other than to say you're off your head and anyone reading the thread can see that, although that will probably be limited seeing as you're probably on the ignore list of half the board. | |
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