| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? 10:06 - May 14 with 2273 views | WeWereZombies |
It has been predicted before and not happened but we may find out whether it happens this time or not in the coming hours and days. Meanwhile it looks like one of the most scrutinised of votes:
https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/presidential-and-parliamentary-elections-in-tu
Interesting 'Profile' on the man yesterday evening on BBC Radio Four:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001ly83
To be honest he sounds as likely as a peace broker between Russia and Ukraine as Boris Johnson would be...
[edit] For those who complain about too much politics on this forum may I say that the BBC programme asserts that his Dad stopped him playing for Fenerbahçe. [Post edited 14 May 2023 10:10]
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| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 10:14 - May 14 with 2214 views | Guthrum |
The difficulty is that much of the media attention is upon the big cities, whereas Erdogan's support base is in the more conservative rural areas. That latter may still be enough to dash the hopes of those wanting a less authoritarian (and more traditionally Ataturk secular) line. |  |
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| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 10:17 - May 14 with 2196 views | BlueBadger |
| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 10:14 - May 14 by Guthrum |
The difficulty is that much of the media attention is upon the big cities, whereas Erdogan's support base is in the more conservative rural areas. That latter may still be enough to dash the hopes of those wanting a less authoritarian (and more traditionally Ataturk secular) line. |
Homophobic Dobby is allegedly worried enough that his man won't get in.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65574312 [Post edited 14 May 2023 10:18]
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| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 10:21 - May 14 with 2179 views | HatStand |
I thought we were signing a Man City midfielder. |  |
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| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 10:38 - May 14 with 2134 views | Pinewoodblue |
Doubt he will go quietly. |  |
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| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 11:10 - May 14 with 2079 views | Wacko |
| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 10:14 - May 14 by Guthrum |
The difficulty is that much of the media attention is upon the big cities, whereas Erdogan's support base is in the more conservative rural areas. That latter may still be enough to dash the hopes of those wanting a less authoritarian (and more traditionally Ataturk secular) line. |
The thing is there are nationalist and Islamist factions within the CHP-led alliance.
The man ErdoÄŸan (allegedly) paid to split the vote has dropped out.
Trabzon - an AKP stronghold and where ErdoÄŸan‘s family is from have apparently rejected him.
Things are looking promising | |
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| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 11:17 - May 14 with 2044 views | Zx1988 |
Hopefully it will be, but I can't see him leaving without a fight. It seems he's bullied Twitter into suppressing his rival as well:
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| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 11:27 - May 14 with 2010 views | WeWereZombies |
| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 11:17 - May 14 by Zx1988 |
Hopefully it will be, but I can't see him leaving without a fight. It seems he's bullied Twitter into suppressing his rival as well:
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Yep, and football got postponed until after the election too. | |
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| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 13:41 - May 14 with 1876 views | Guthrum |
| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 11:10 - May 14 by Wacko |
The thing is there are nationalist and Islamist factions within the CHP-led alliance.
The man ErdoÄŸan (allegedly) paid to split the vote has dropped out.
Trabzon - an AKP stronghold and where ErdoÄŸan‘s family is from have apparently rejected him.
Things are looking promising |
Very interesting if places like Trabzon are turning against him. | |
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| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 13:50 - May 14 with 1862 views | DJR |
The sad thing with Turkey is that I am not aware of any media coverage (including on the BBC World Service) of the aftermath of the earthquake since the likelihood of survivors ended.
With 50,000 dead and many buildings flattened that does not seem right, particularly given the large Turkish/Turkish Cypriot community in the UK, but it is par for the course. [Post edited 14 May 2023 13:53]
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| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 14:05 - May 14 with 1826 views | Wacko |
| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 13:50 - May 14 by DJR |
The sad thing with Turkey is that I am not aware of any media coverage (including on the BBC World Service) of the aftermath of the earthquake since the likelihood of survivors ended.
With 50,000 dead and many buildings flattened that does not seem right, particularly given the large Turkish/Turkish Cypriot community in the UK, but it is par for the course. [Post edited 14 May 2023 13:53]
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The unofficial number of deaths is thought to be 200k +
ErdoÄŸan delayed deploying the army in the rescue process (because he's scared of their potential power), which resulted in a lot of damage / casualties at a crucial time. | |
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| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 14:48 - May 14 with 1740 views | Clapham_Junction |
Also an interesting election in Thailand today.
The establishment have been desperate to keep reformist parties out of power and the military has removed governments twice in the last 20 years after the opposition boycotted elections they knew they were going to lose in order to try and delegitimise the process.
Early results polls suggest the two centre-left parties that are reincarnations of banned ones have together won a majority. The military have one last way to stop a transfer of power - they control the Senate (all members are appointed by the army) and a joint sitting of Parliament has to confirm a new Prime Minister. |  | | |
| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 15:02 - May 14 with 1715 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
He’s a ‘playing both sides” type like Chairman Xi. Cosying up to Putin whilst also supplying Ukraine with drones and looking to weaken Russia to enhance Turkey’s regional power.
Hopefully he goes peacefully but who knows. | | | |
| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 18:24 - May 14 with 1542 views | DJR |
| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 14:05 - May 14 by Wacko |
The unofficial number of deaths is thought to be 200k +
ErdoÄŸan delayed deploying the army in the rescue process (because he's scared of their potential power), which resulted in a lot of damage / casualties at a crucial time. |
I realise Erdogan did not cover himself in glory, but we haven't heard undue criticism of him, and whatever the position, it would seem to me to be appropriate to give updates on what the current situation is.
Instead, all we get is adverts for the Turkish Riviera.
As regards Erdogan, he appears to me to get an easy ride here, but is that because Turkey is a member of NATO? | | | |
| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 18:32 - May 14 with 1520 views | Swansea_Blue |
Na, he had a blinder today. 2 cracking goals and an assist for Haaland. |  |
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| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 06:29 - May 15 with 1318 views | WeWereZombies |
| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 15:02 - May 14 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
He’s a ‘playing both sides” type like Chairman Xi. Cosying up to Putin whilst also supplying Ukraine with drones and looking to weaken Russia to enhance Turkey’s regional power.
Hopefully he goes peacefully but who knows. |
Well, it ain't over yet:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-65475445 | |
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| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 08:45 - May 15 with 1233 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 18:24 - May 14 by DJR |
I realise Erdogan did not cover himself in glory, but we haven't heard undue criticism of him, and whatever the position, it would seem to me to be appropriate to give updates on what the current situation is.
Instead, all we get is adverts for the Turkish Riviera.
As regards Erdogan, he appears to me to get an easy ride here, but is that because Turkey is a member of NATO? |
He also gets an easy ride in the west because he’s built a wall to keep out refugees from getting into Europe.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/23/eu-proposal-to-fund-turkey-border- |  |
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| The end of ErdoÄŸan ? on 09:07 - May 15 with 1183 views | DJR |
Yes, the EU clearly doesn't want to rattle his cage for this reason, but, for all his failings, I suppose he does deserve credit for the 4 million refugees that Turkey currently houses (which is the highest by number, and the fifth highest per capita, in the world). | | | |
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