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And today, Zack will be……. 09:03 - May 11 with 9030 views

His life is like an episode of Mr Benn

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And today, Zack will be……. on 09:10 - May 11 with 4277 views

MattinLondon

Once a politician becomes relevant the digging starts - best thing for him to do is to be utterly shameless, shrug his shoulders and tell journalists that that is all in the past.

Like Starmer’s suits, this is going to get played far more than Farage’s racism and £5 million ‘gift’.

And that says a lot about this country.

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:12 - May 11 with 4247 views

lowhouseblue

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:10 - May 11 by MattinLondon
Once a politician becomes relevant the digging starts - best thing for him to do is to be utterly shameless, shrug his shoulders and tell journalists that that is all in the past. Like Starmer’s suits, this is going to get played far more than Farage’s racism and £5 million ‘gift’. And that says a lot about this country.

you mean he should go full trump with the shameless fibbing. but it's ok cos he's one of us.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:14 - May 11 with 4235 views

surreyblue

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:10 - May 11 by MattinLondon
Once a politician becomes relevant the digging starts - best thing for him to do is to be utterly shameless, shrug his shoulders and tell journalists that that is all in the past. Like Starmer’s suits, this is going to get played far more than Farage’s racism and £5 million ‘gift’. And that says a lot about this country.

It doesn't look like the Telegraph has even run a story on Farage's £5m bung.

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:19 - May 11 with 4188 views

GlasgowBlue

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:10 - May 11 by MattinLondon
Once a politician becomes relevant the digging starts - best thing for him to do is to be utterly shameless, shrug his shoulders and tell journalists that that is all in the past. Like Starmer’s suits, this is going to get played far more than Farage’s racism and £5 million ‘gift’. And that says a lot about this country.

Farage’s racism has been exposed numerous times by the media and continues to do so. He has been challenged on multiple occasions about the £5 million. Just this weekend Sky challenged. As did the beeb.

So your point is utter nonsense.

As for Zack, he’s being exposed AS A Walter Mitty (or is that Walter Titty) chancer. What do you object to about this being discussed?

He’s a fantasist.

Spokesman for the Red Cross? 𝗨𝗻𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗲
Worked at the MoJ? 𝗨𝗻𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗲
Member of Council of Hypnotherapy? 𝗨𝗻𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗲
Spokesman for Make Votes Matter? 𝗨𝗻𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗲

He used all of the above during his bid to become deputy leader/ leader of the greens.

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And today, Zack will be……. on 09:20 - May 11 with 4164 views

MattinLondon

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:12 - May 11 by lowhouseblue
you mean he should go full trump with the shameless fibbing. but it's ok cos he's one of us.

Where did I say that it was ok? I didn’t - just based on Boris and hate preacher Farage, being shameless works.

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:22 - May 11 with 4116 views

lowhouseblue

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:20 - May 11 by MattinLondon
Where did I say that it was ok? I didn’t - just based on Boris and hate preacher Farage, being shameless works.

you didn't say "it was ok". you said look over there at something else.

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:22 - May 11 with 4109 views

BanksterDebtSlave

What is it about a meaningful version of social democracy that scares you so much?

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And today, Zack will be……. on 09:23 - May 11 with 4109 views

GlasgowBlue

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:12 - May 11 by lowhouseblue
you mean he should go full trump with the shameless fibbing. but it's ok cos he's one of us.

That’s exactly what he’s saying.

One thread about Zack being a fantasist . Dozens of threads on reform racism and crookery. I think that seems fair proportionally.

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And today, Zack will be……. on 09:24 - May 11 with 4082 views

MattinLondon

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:22 - May 11 by lowhouseblue
you didn't say "it was ok". you said look over there at something else.

I didn’t say anything of the sort.

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:28 - May 11 with 3993 views

BanksterDebtSlave

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:19 - May 11 by GlasgowBlue

Are there some policy implications here?

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And today, Zack will be……. on 09:30 - May 11 with 3951 views

BanksterDebtSlave

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:24 - May 11 by MattinLondon
I didn’t say anything of the sort.

At least there's a fighting chance there won't be an earth shattering bacon sandwich moment.

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And today, Zack will be……. on 09:40 - May 11 with 3860 views

BloomBlue

I quite like the fact Pervy Polanski is shaking up politics.

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:43 - May 11 with 3828 views

grow_our_own

It emerged today that Polanski is also either a tax evader or voter fraudster:
https://taxpolicy.org.uk/2026/

More likely a the former. He did what most of the rich will do if ever his fantasy tax-raising comes into being: find a way not to pay it. The difference being, the rich won't break the law doing it.

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And today, Zack will be……. on 09:46 - May 11 with 3796 views

BlueSmoke

Walter Titty

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:47 - May 11 with 3787 views

BasingstokeBlue

Mr. Bean, more like.

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And today, Zack will be……. on 09:54 - May 11 with 3718 views

BlueSmoke

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:19 - May 11 by GlasgowBlue

Apologies, you got there first with the Walter Titty.

And today, Zack will be……. on 10:09 - May 11 with 3593 views

BlueRaider

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:28 - May 11 by BanksterDebtSlave
Are there some policy implications here?

If you don't think it's important for politicians to be honest, that's up to you.

Blog:

Yellow Cards and Why They Bug Me

And today, Zack will be……. on 10:09 - May 11 with 3591 views

grow_our_own

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:19 - May 11 by GlasgowBlue

You can add:
Pays council tax owed? Untrue
Gives valid info about his voter registration: Untrue

(one or other)

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And today, Zack will be……. on 10:15 - May 11 with 3529 views

Leaky

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:20 - May 11 by MattinLondon
Where did I say that it was ok? I didn’t - just based on Boris and hate preacher Farage, being shameless works.

So just your every day politician then, the next nose in the trough.

And today, Zack will be……. on 10:19 - May 11 with 3497 views

Leaky

And today, Zack will be……. on 10:09 - May 11 by BlueRaider
If you don't think it's important for politicians to be honest, that's up to you.

Depends which end of the political spectrum you are.

And today, Zack will be……. on 10:24 - May 11 with 3468 views

surreyblue

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:19 - May 11 by GlasgowBlue

Doesn't this all prove his point?

A quarter of voters would vote for Farage to become PM today, despite what you have said. Which means either:

- The media scrutiny on his racism, undeclared gifts, and barely-there policies has not made it's way through to mainstream voters in a way that the criticisms (both valid and not) of Starmer and Polanski have done; or

- a quarter of the population don't care, and would happily vote in a party lead by a racist who takes undeclared gifts from unknown sources and advocates for policies that benefit those sources, while having policies with no substance underneath them.

I'm not sure which is a worse look for our society.

Starmer hasn't been a great PM. His domestic politicking has been awful, his approach to new policy has been hit and miss at best, the support within his party is fractured at best, but the stuff that is hidden away, like quality of services, is slowly improving. We have probably gone from awful to not great, which doesn't yet register on most people's radars, but hopefully that trend will continue. Big thumbs up for his international policy, particularly standing up to the US over Iran.

And today, Zack will be……. on 10:27 - May 11 with 3440 views

eirannach_gorm

Discussions of politicians’ tax mistakes are often accompanied by calls for police investigations and prosecutions. In this case, and most others, such calls would be misplaced. There is no reason to believe that Mr Polanski’s failure to pay council tax was intentional or dishonest. Questions of criminal tax evasion therefore don’t arise.

And today, Zack will be……. on 10:34 - May 11 with 3365 views

grow_our_own

And today, Zack will be……. on 10:27 - May 11 by eirannach_gorm
Discussions of politicians’ tax mistakes are often accompanied by calls for police investigations and prosecutions. In this case, and most others, such calls would be misplaced. There is no reason to believe that Mr Polanski’s failure to pay council tax was intentional or dishonest. Questions of criminal tax evasion therefore don’t arise.

It's not for journalists to call for police to investigate & CPS to press for convictions. That's for them to decide. Journalists give the facts and present the story. Doesn't mean Polanski didn't cheat his taxes.

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And today, Zack will be……. on 10:43 - May 11 with 3308 views

grow_our_own

And today, Zack will be……. on 10:24 - May 11 by surreyblue

Agreed. Right now, I'd vote for any politician that is only mildly bad. Compared to the last few calamitous ones we've had who've caused Brexit, Trussonomics, and tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths during covid, Starmer is a triumphant success. Don't even need to qualify that when it comes to his foreign policy. He and his govt need time.

And today, Zack will be……. on 11:06 - May 11 with 3190 views

Smoresy

And today, Zack will be……. on 09:43 - May 11 by grow_our_own
It emerged today that Polanski is also either a tax evader or voter fraudster: https://taxpolicy.org.uk/2026/ More likely a the former. He did what most of the rich will do if ever his fantasy tax-raising comes into being: find a way not to pay it. The difference being, the rich won't break the law doing it. [Post edited 11 May 9:49]

Making arrangements to pay council tax on a "property" that isn't permissible to be used as such* would be a bold move and one unlikely to end well, I'd speculate. Not something I'm overly exercised about, alternative lifestyles like this, lived out on the margins of society and the law, providing they don't harm others and providing take-up remains very modest (if we all opted to clandestinely live on these boats then that would be a worry!).

It's another layer to the man's origin story though, however one feels about the degree of misdemeanour.

*"Note that the legality of the occupation is not a factor. This was a “leisure mooring”, and so the fact Mr Polanski resided there may have been a breach of his contract with the marina, and/or a breach of planning control. But if there is residential use then council tax applies, regardless of whether that use was lawful."

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