| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 09:18 - Apr 23 with 1013 views | Guthrum |
Additional to that, some of the physical damage can be long-term or permanent. Friend of mine only just survived after ending up in intensive care (is recoveing at home), but now has permanent lung damage to contend with. |  |
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| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 09:33 - Apr 23 with 984 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 09:18 - Apr 23 by Guthrum |
Additional to that, some of the physical damage can be long-term or permanent. Friend of mine only just survived after ending up in intensive care (is recoveing at home), but now has permanent lung damage to contend with. |
Oh that's not nice.
Would you mind advising of the age and general health of your friend pre Covid and also how intrusive was the intensive care.
I'm not being nosey but I am weighing up future isolation procedures for Mother as she lives with us in an annex but we are social distancing from her. Medium term we may relax this but I am weighing up the probabilities, risks and consequences.
If you don't feel comfortable sharing this i understand. |  |
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| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 09:42 - Apr 23 with 980 views | Guthrum |
| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 09:33 - Apr 23 by Lord_Lucan |
Oh that's not nice.
Would you mind advising of the age and general health of your friend pre Covid and also how intrusive was the intensive care.
I'm not being nosey but I am weighing up future isolation procedures for Mother as she lives with us in an annex but we are social distancing from her. Medium term we may relax this but I am weighing up the probabilities, risks and consequences.
If you don't feel comfortable sharing this i understand. |
He's about 40 years old, was in reasonably good health, tho a smoker. I believe he did have to be ventilated at one stage. | |
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| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 09:47 - Apr 23 with 969 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 09:42 - Apr 23 by Guthrum |
He's about 40 years old, was in reasonably good health, tho a smoker. I believe he did have to be ventilated at one stage. |
Blimey, that's not good.
You are an extremely learned man Guthrum. Do you think that some people have worse symptoms because they have a weaker immune system or that possibly they have ingested a greater dose of the virus.
I'm not even sure if the latter is a possibility. | |
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| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 10:03 - Apr 23 with 958 views | Guthrum |
| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 09:47 - Apr 23 by Lord_Lucan |
Blimey, that's not good.
You are an extremely learned man Guthrum. Do you think that some people have worse symptoms because they have a weaker immune system or that possibly they have ingested a greater dose of the virus.
I'm not even sure if the latter is a possibility. |
From what I've heard and read, the amount of exposure does seem to make a difference to the chances of infection. Quantifying that or how concrete it is, I have no idea (not sure enough research has yet been done). A weaker immune system will make you more vulnerable, but, on the other hand, an immune system overreaction (cytokine storm) is one of the ways Covid-19 kills.
In terms of how bad the symptoms are, probably comes down to pot luck, how strong/healthy you are and how your body reacts. Certainly age seems to be a factor (older people are more likely to have underlying health conditions, too), as does gender to some extent (better to be female).
Another case I know of (friend's grandmother), elderly lady, lots of health issues, while in hospital for something else tested positive for C-19, after another patient on the ward had it. Developed no symptoms whatsoever and is now in a residential home. | |
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| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 10:09 - Apr 23 with 945 views | JakeITFC |
| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 10:03 - Apr 23 by Guthrum |
From what I've heard and read, the amount of exposure does seem to make a difference to the chances of infection. Quantifying that or how concrete it is, I have no idea (not sure enough research has yet been done). A weaker immune system will make you more vulnerable, but, on the other hand, an immune system overreaction (cytokine storm) is one of the ways Covid-19 kills.
In terms of how bad the symptoms are, probably comes down to pot luck, how strong/healthy you are and how your body reacts. Certainly age seems to be a factor (older people are more likely to have underlying health conditions, too), as does gender to some extent (better to be female).
Another case I know of (friend's grandmother), elderly lady, lots of health issues, while in hospital for something else tested positive for C-19, after another patient on the ward had it. Developed no symptoms whatsoever and is now in a residential home. |
I've certainly read somewhere (but I can't remember where unfortunately) that a consistent exposure to it at the start can lead to a more severe version of this (I think the general gist of it is that it overtakes the respiratory system in a way that doesn't allow it to protect itself fully in the way that healthy lungs would v a small dosage).
I think this is why healthcare professionals are both more at risk and desperately deserve adequate equipment to do their job. |  | | |
| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 11:39 - Apr 23 with 853 views | usm |
| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 10:03 - Apr 23 by Guthrum |
From what I've heard and read, the amount of exposure does seem to make a difference to the chances of infection. Quantifying that or how concrete it is, I have no idea (not sure enough research has yet been done). A weaker immune system will make you more vulnerable, but, on the other hand, an immune system overreaction (cytokine storm) is one of the ways Covid-19 kills.
In terms of how bad the symptoms are, probably comes down to pot luck, how strong/healthy you are and how your body reacts. Certainly age seems to be a factor (older people are more likely to have underlying health conditions, too), as does gender to some extent (better to be female).
Another case I know of (friend's grandmother), elderly lady, lots of health issues, while in hospital for something else tested positive for C-19, after another patient on the ward had it. Developed no symptoms whatsoever and is now in a residential home. |
It seems to be pot luck but I am hoping there is more to it than that so the clever guys can isolate what is effecting some people more than others and then sort it out.
My business partners Dad - he's n his 80's - has chronic asthma, COPD and Diabetes - as well as vascular dementia - was in hospital and tested positive for Covid 19 about three weeks ago. Had very minor symptoms and should be out of hospital soon ( he was actually in for his other conditions not Covid). |  |
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| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 12:03 - Apr 23 with 828 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 11:39 - Apr 23 by usm |
It seems to be pot luck but I am hoping there is more to it than that so the clever guys can isolate what is effecting some people more than others and then sort it out.
My business partners Dad - he's n his 80's - has chronic asthma, COPD and Diabetes - as well as vascular dementia - was in hospital and tested positive for Covid 19 about three weeks ago. Had very minor symptoms and should be out of hospital soon ( he was actually in for his other conditions not Covid). |
We are all assuming that the tests are accurate.
I hope I'm wrong but I have grave misgivings on these tests. | |
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| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 12:17 - Apr 23 with 802 views | StokieBlue |
| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 10:03 - Apr 23 by Guthrum |
From what I've heard and read, the amount of exposure does seem to make a difference to the chances of infection. Quantifying that or how concrete it is, I have no idea (not sure enough research has yet been done). A weaker immune system will make you more vulnerable, but, on the other hand, an immune system overreaction (cytokine storm) is one of the ways Covid-19 kills.
In terms of how bad the symptoms are, probably comes down to pot luck, how strong/healthy you are and how your body reacts. Certainly age seems to be a factor (older people are more likely to have underlying health conditions, too), as does gender to some extent (better to be female).
Another case I know of (friend's grandmother), elderly lady, lots of health issues, while in hospital for something else tested positive for C-19, after another patient on the ward had it. Developed no symptoms whatsoever and is now in a residential home. |
Anecdotally, the fact that so many health workers of a relatively young age have died would also suggest than accumulated infection is not good no matter what ones age.
I am sure there will be robust studies on that when time allows.
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| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 12:23 - Apr 23 with 793 views | Mullet |
| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 12:17 - Apr 23 by StokieBlue |
Anecdotally, the fact that so many health workers of a relatively young age have died would also suggest than accumulated infection is not good no matter what ones age.
I am sure there will be robust studies on that when time allows.
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I think we'll also see lots of speculation on that front e.g. a lot of health care workers are BAME/immigrants so have they had the same exposure to diseases and health care which may have compromised them? Genetics? All sorts of wild arguments have already been floated.
Hopefully the facts and science cut through all of that when the government are scrutinised. |  |
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| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 12:30 - Apr 23 with 773 views | Guthrum |
| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 12:03 - Apr 23 by Lord_Lucan |
We are all assuming that the tests are accurate.
I hope I'm wrong but I have grave misgivings on these tests. |
I think the positive tests are accurate. More concerned that the difficulty of the swab procedure is giving false negatives. | |
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| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 13:40 - Apr 23 with 683 views | brazil1982 |
Grim reading but thanks for posting. |  | | |
| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 14:04 - Apr 23 with 660 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Detailed piece on the damage covid-19 does to the body on 12:30 - Apr 23 by Guthrum |
I think the positive tests are accurate. More concerned that the difficulty of the swab procedure is giving false negatives. |
I mentioned this before but I was talking to a bigwig who knew about this sort of thing and was involved in it. He started to explain to me the various ways how you can get a false test either way even by a 100% fully functioning accurate kit. I cannot remember the majority of what he said as it was fairly quickly explained and a lot of it was rather complicated for a cretin like me but I do remember him ending by saying that if someone had a positive test AND they were showing symptoms then they "probably" have got it. | |
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