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Car lights and MOT 16:23 - Oct 28 with 1865 viewsVic

Garage has just failed my sons car because the dipped lights are on all the time. Ie, they come on whenever the car is running. (It’s an old A150 and there’s an ‘always on’ setting on the light dial in the car switch which allows this)

Can’t be right to fail MOT on this, can it?


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Car lights and MOT on 16:28 - Oct 28 with 1826 viewsjeera

Dipped lights or do you mean daytime running lights?

Surely the DRL having an 'always on' option makes more sense?

I leave mine on and cannot see why that would be a failure myself but if the dipped lights are unable to be switched off then I suppose that could be considered a problem.

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Car lights and MOT on 16:29 - Oct 28 with 1827 viewsgtsb1966

If the car has a dtr switch (daytime running) and it doesn't turn the lights off then yes you will fail unfortunately.
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Car lights and MOT on 16:33 - Oct 28 with 1802 viewsjeera

Car lights and MOT on 16:29 - Oct 28 by gtsb1966

If the car has a dtr switch (daytime running) and it doesn't turn the lights off then yes you will fail unfortunately.


Yet them not working at all on a vehicle registered before 2018 isn't a fail.

I suppose if they won't switch off at all that's considered a malfunction.
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Car lights and MOT on 16:33 - Oct 28 with 1793 viewsVic

Car lights and MOT on 16:28 - Oct 28 by jeera

Dipped lights or do you mean daytime running lights?

Surely the DRL having an 'always on' option makes more sense?

I leave mine on and cannot see why that would be a failure myself but if the dipped lights are unable to be switched off then I suppose that could be considered a problem.


No, it doesn’t have DRL - the setting is for dipped lights to come on as soon as the car starts.

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Car lights and MOT on 16:39 - Oct 28 with 1769 viewsjeera

Car lights and MOT on 16:33 - Oct 28 by Vic

No, it doesn’t have DRL - the setting is for dipped lights to come on as soon as the car starts.


There must an 'off' option that isn't working then.

I can't see why it's an issue myself but these petty rules are there for a reason.

To annoy us.

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Car lights and MOT on 16:49 - Oct 28 with 1736 viewsVic

Car lights and MOT on 16:39 - Oct 28 by jeera

There must an 'off' option that isn't working then.

I can't see why it's an issue myself but these petty rules are there for a reason.

To annoy us.


I think your right!

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Car lights and MOT on 16:54 - Oct 28 with 1718 viewsjeera

Car lights and MOT on 16:49 - Oct 28 by Vic

I think your right!


Just to add to that, didn't they at least advise him how to sort it?

I have to say this year my car failed on just windscreen wipers and the garage just rang me and asked if I wanted them changed. So they popped on a new set and passed it. Also a number plate light wasn't on so the guy gave it a tap and it came on so that was fine too.

Last year at another place one of my daytime lights wasn't working but the fella just fixed it for me on the spot.

You'd think it would be no skin off their nose to help your boy out.

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Car lights and MOT on 18:59 - Oct 28 with 1536 viewsVic

Car lights and MOT on 16:54 - Oct 28 by jeera

Just to add to that, didn't they at least advise him how to sort it?

I have to say this year my car failed on just windscreen wipers and the garage just rang me and asked if I wanted them changed. So they popped on a new set and passed it. Also a number plate light wasn't on so the guy gave it a tap and it came on so that was fine too.

Last year at another place one of my daytime lights wasn't working but the fella just fixed it for me on the spot.

You'd think it would be no skin off their nose to help your boy out.


Halfords! They just go by a book and don’t think about helping anyone out!

Despite him suggesting that it may just be the light switch they need to turn to a different setting they insisted they needed to check the electrics out!

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Car lights and MOT on 19:09 - Oct 28 with 1497 viewsstopmoaning

Doesn’t really make much sense, all Volvo’s have theirs on all the time and you can’t turn them off?
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Car lights and MOT on 19:23 - Oct 28 with 1471 viewsNewcyBlue

What year is it?

There will most likely be a setting in the convenience menu.

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Car lights and MOT on 19:48 - Oct 28 with 1433 viewsVic

Car lights and MOT on 19:23 - Oct 28 by NewcyBlue

What year is it?

There will most likely be a setting in the convenience menu.


2005

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Car lights and MOT on 20:09 - Oct 28 with 1405 viewsThe_Last_Baron

Car lights and MOT on 18:59 - Oct 28 by Vic

Halfords! They just go by a book and don’t think about helping anyone out!

Despite him suggesting that it may just be the light switch they need to turn to a different setting they insisted they needed to check the electrics out!


Avoid Halfords and the like. Find a small, honest independent garage who will fix any issues and pass the car. For half the price.

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Car lights and MOT on 20:14 - Oct 28 with 1392 views66notout

Car lights and MOT on 20:09 - Oct 28 by The_Last_Baron

Avoid Halfords and the like. Find a small, honest independent garage who will fix any issues and pass the car. For half the price.


Autofit £39.95. Phone 01473 723325.
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Car lights and MOT on 20:25 - Oct 28 with 1380 viewsVic

Car lights and MOT on 20:09 - Oct 28 by The_Last_Baron

Avoid Halfords and the like. Find a small, honest independent garage who will fix any issues and pass the car. For half the price.


That’s what I keep telling him. - hopefully he’ll learn this time!

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Car lights and MOT on 20:26 - Oct 28 with 1379 viewsVic

Car lights and MOT on 20:14 - Oct 28 by 66notout

Autofit £39.95. Phone 01473 723325.


Long way to go - he’s in Birmingham!

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Car lights and MOT on 20:38 - Oct 28 with 1360 viewsNewcyBlue

Car lights and MOT on 19:48 - Oct 28 by Vic

2005


When daytime running lights are disabled, the light switch functions in a logical way - O gives lights off, A selects auto and so on. When the daytime running lights option is selected from the menu, position O now functions in the same way as position A.

Check the vehicle handbook to access the vehicle menus.

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Car lights and MOT on 21:00 - Oct 28 with 1328 viewsVic

Car lights and MOT on 20:38 - Oct 28 by NewcyBlue

When daytime running lights are disabled, the light switch functions in a logical way - O gives lights off, A selects auto and so on. When the daytime running lights option is selected from the menu, position O now functions in the same way as position A.

Check the vehicle handbook to access the vehicle menus.


Cheers Newcy - we’ve done that and it’s wry clear. Unless we’ve misunderstood what the mechanic said there is no way he should have failed it.

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Car lights and MOT on 21:02 - Oct 28 with 1323 viewsjeera

Car lights and MOT on 21:00 - Oct 28 by Vic

Cheers Newcy - we’ve done that and it’s wry clear. Unless we’ve misunderstood what the mechanic said there is no way he should have failed it.


https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/complain-about-an-mot

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Car lights and MOT on 21:07 - Oct 28 with 1316 viewsVic

Car lights and MOT on 21:02 - Oct 28 by jeera

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/complain-about-an-mot



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Car lights and MOT on 21:08 - Oct 28 with 1316 viewsNewcyBlue

Car lights and MOT on 21:00 - Oct 28 by Vic

Cheers Newcy - we’ve done that and it’s wry clear. Unless we’ve misunderstood what the mechanic said there is no way he should have failed it.


Do the lights still come on when in the off position after turning off the always on option?

If so, it could be a problem with the SAM unit. Which is the Signal Acquisition and Actuation Module. It’s quite common on them I believe.

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