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The 5 point plan 15:31 - Dec 2 with 892 viewshype313

Just went back to look at this nonsense, I mean business plan, to see if I could read between the lines, and this statement made me shiver.

Maintaining a stable management and coaching team...

The other laughable one was -

To develop a team to play attractive and exciting football.

To be fair, he's keeping to his promise on one of those.

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Its always really worthwhile debating and reviewing these... on 15:57 - Dec 2 with 825 viewsunstableblue

...as I've banged on about before,a good organisation,a successful organisation has a clear cascade from Purpose, Vision/Mission, to Values and Objectives, and the PLAN/Roadmap to meet the objectives, and you measure performance against the Values/Objectives... companies who get it right... will rock, same for football clubs (plus a bit of money and luck).

So Marcus's

1. To provide a significant ongoing financial commitment to the club’s academy, enabling a steady flow of players into the first-team

2. To provide a sustainable and competitive squad salary budget

3. To make annual investment funds available to purchase players in the early stages of their career and to assist in their development

4. Maintaining a stable management and coaching team

5. To develop a team to play attractive and exciting football

The problem with the above is, that they're not individual purpose/goals or objectives, they are actually intertwined and at different levels... they should have linked KPIs/Measures,but that would be difficult - they need to be a cascade

They're also too simplistic as well, and they're neither vision/mission, objectives or plan activities... they're confused

WTF do I mean....

The academy point is laudable, but its isolated. Its linked to the management team.Which is in turn linked to the football product.

This diagram shows what I mean:



I have seen and have made this work.

So our Vision would be - A sustainable top tier football club that entertains and excites our vibrant fan base
Mission - To be East Anglia's most successful football team, attracting the best youth footballers in Norfolk, Suffolk,Essex, Cambs, and being the de facto team for regional football fans
Goal - xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

You get my drift?

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Its always really worthwhile debating and reviewing these... on 15:59 - Dec 2 with 815 viewsBlueBadger

Its always really worthwhile debating and reviewing these... on 15:57 - Dec 2 by unstableblue

...as I've banged on about before,a good organisation,a successful organisation has a clear cascade from Purpose, Vision/Mission, to Values and Objectives, and the PLAN/Roadmap to meet the objectives, and you measure performance against the Values/Objectives... companies who get it right... will rock, same for football clubs (plus a bit of money and luck).

So Marcus's

1. To provide a significant ongoing financial commitment to the club’s academy, enabling a steady flow of players into the first-team

2. To provide a sustainable and competitive squad salary budget

3. To make annual investment funds available to purchase players in the early stages of their career and to assist in their development

4. Maintaining a stable management and coaching team

5. To develop a team to play attractive and exciting football

The problem with the above is, that they're not individual purpose/goals or objectives, they are actually intertwined and at different levels... they should have linked KPIs/Measures,but that would be difficult - they need to be a cascade

They're also too simplistic as well, and they're neither vision/mission, objectives or plan activities... they're confused

WTF do I mean....

The academy point is laudable, but its isolated. Its linked to the management team.Which is in turn linked to the football product.

This diagram shows what I mean:



I have seen and have made this work.

So our Vision would be - A sustainable top tier football club that entertains and excites our vibrant fan base
Mission - To be East Anglia's most successful football team, attracting the best youth footballers in Norfolk, Suffolk,Essex, Cambs, and being the de facto team for regional football fans
Goal - xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

You get my drift?


Ironically enough, the Management Speak in your first paragraph sounds EXACTLY like an ITFC press statement.

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Its always really worthwhile debating and reviewing these... on 16:05 - Dec 2 with 794 viewswoiii

Its always really worthwhile debating and reviewing these... on 15:57 - Dec 2 by unstableblue

...as I've banged on about before,a good organisation,a successful organisation has a clear cascade from Purpose, Vision/Mission, to Values and Objectives, and the PLAN/Roadmap to meet the objectives, and you measure performance against the Values/Objectives... companies who get it right... will rock, same for football clubs (plus a bit of money and luck).

So Marcus's

1. To provide a significant ongoing financial commitment to the club’s academy, enabling a steady flow of players into the first-team

2. To provide a sustainable and competitive squad salary budget

3. To make annual investment funds available to purchase players in the early stages of their career and to assist in their development

4. Maintaining a stable management and coaching team

5. To develop a team to play attractive and exciting football

The problem with the above is, that they're not individual purpose/goals or objectives, they are actually intertwined and at different levels... they should have linked KPIs/Measures,but that would be difficult - they need to be a cascade

They're also too simplistic as well, and they're neither vision/mission, objectives or plan activities... they're confused

WTF do I mean....

The academy point is laudable, but its isolated. Its linked to the management team.Which is in turn linked to the football product.

This diagram shows what I mean:



I have seen and have made this work.

So our Vision would be - A sustainable top tier football club that entertains and excites our vibrant fan base
Mission - To be East Anglia's most successful football team, attracting the best youth footballers in Norfolk, Suffolk,Essex, Cambs, and being the de facto team for regional football fans
Goal - xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

You get my drift?


This kinda torpedoed all that..

O'Neill: Academy to Remain Category Two 14th May 2019 12:01
Town general manager of football operations and academy manager Lee O’Neill has reiterated that the club’s youth set-up will remain at category two despite the club’s relegation to League One and the loss of a number of talented young players to big Premier League clubs. 13

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The 5 point plan on 16:29 - Dec 2 with 754 viewsSwansea_Blue

Evans stresses core principles to staff and players by Swansea_Blue 5 Aug 2020 15:59
Yep. As an actual plan, it was largely nonsense. It's a hashed together list of the bleeding obvious combined with some vague aspiration. Let's have a look:

1 — ‘To provide a significant ongoing financial commitment to the club’s academy, enabling a steady flow of players into the first-team’.
Well, ok, fair enough. But then any club with an academy is going to have to fund it and then want to see academy players progressing. Are we making a conscious decision to pump more into the academy, or is it just that the amounts needed to run it are seen as "significant" and haven't actually changed?

2 — ‘To provide a sustainable and competitive squad salary budget’
Clearly a failure in terms of competitiveness in Championship. By the time we were relegated we had the 20th lowest wage budget in the league.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdWdE2CWAAEhuMW?format=jpg&name=medium
Sustainable? Maybe it is that. Maybe it was what ME could afford to spend. Slightly different in League 1 of course. We are competitive again, but only due to circumstances not because of the plan.

3 — ‘To make annual investment funds available to purchase players in the early stages of their career and to assist in their development’
Ok. So this is a contentious one. We obviously don't spend a lot of money on transfers https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdWdHWLXoAA8fER?format=jpg&name=medium
So given limited funds, we want to spend those on younger players with room to develop.
We've done fairly well against this aim in fairness. The only transfer fee last summer was for KVY, who could turn out to be a great bit of business.
The year before, players we paid for were 25 or younger (Jackson, Harrison and Edwards). There were a few older ones picked up on frees. The problem there though was that most were also poor and show no sign of improving. As usual, ME's focus is on the money and not the quality.

4 — ‘Maintaining a stable management and coaching team’
We're not set up to do this. Every time we change manager (each of who has different ideas about how to play) we change the core management and coaching team around them. Personally, I don't think this point has any purpose in how ME's set it out. If he was to put a structure in place from youth, coaching, recruitment, to operate in a certain way and provide stability to cope better with manager change (e.g. as Brentford have), that would be a different matter. Let's face it, not many managers stay for long. At our level if we have a very successful manager, he'll be gone after a season. We have to plan to cope with those changes. Planning to avoid them is destined to fail and then also slows down change when it is needed (like now).

5 — ‘To develop a team to play attractive and exciting football’
Simply a wish, with no plan behind it. As proven by performances and some of the players we've signed, who can barely pass water let alone a football. Meaningless piffle to try to appeal to some of the fanbase.


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Its always really worthwhile debating and reviewing these... on 16:32 - Dec 2 with 745 viewsSwansea_Blue

Its always really worthwhile debating and reviewing these... on 15:57 - Dec 2 by unstableblue

...as I've banged on about before,a good organisation,a successful organisation has a clear cascade from Purpose, Vision/Mission, to Values and Objectives, and the PLAN/Roadmap to meet the objectives, and you measure performance against the Values/Objectives... companies who get it right... will rock, same for football clubs (plus a bit of money and luck).

So Marcus's

1. To provide a significant ongoing financial commitment to the club’s academy, enabling a steady flow of players into the first-team

2. To provide a sustainable and competitive squad salary budget

3. To make annual investment funds available to purchase players in the early stages of their career and to assist in their development

4. Maintaining a stable management and coaching team

5. To develop a team to play attractive and exciting football

The problem with the above is, that they're not individual purpose/goals or objectives, they are actually intertwined and at different levels... they should have linked KPIs/Measures,but that would be difficult - they need to be a cascade

They're also too simplistic as well, and they're neither vision/mission, objectives or plan activities... they're confused

WTF do I mean....

The academy point is laudable, but its isolated. Its linked to the management team.Which is in turn linked to the football product.

This diagram shows what I mean:



I have seen and have made this work.

So our Vision would be - A sustainable top tier football club that entertains and excites our vibrant fan base
Mission - To be East Anglia's most successful football team, attracting the best youth footballers in Norfolk, Suffolk,Essex, Cambs, and being the de facto team for regional football fans
Goal - xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

You get my drift?


Quite. I don't think my views changed on it since I posted some drivel about it back in August - posted again above.

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The 5 point plan on 16:33 - Dec 2 with 737 viewsSteve_M

It always was wasn't it, something Milne scribbled down in the pub to try and placate fans for a bit.

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Its always really worthwhile debating and reviewing these... on 16:56 - Dec 2 with 680 viewsjeera

Its always really worthwhile debating and reviewing these... on 16:32 - Dec 2 by Swansea_Blue

Quite. I don't think my views changed on it since I posted some drivel about it back in August - posted again above.


His has pictures which you failed to provide.

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ITS THIS on 17:12 - Dec 2 with 655 viewsunstableblue

Its always really worthwhile debating and reviewing these... on 16:56 - Dec 2 by jeera

His has pictures which you failed to provide.


you always need pictures

but his original post has real merit....

they're just siloed wishes... when they should actually all connect.... a stable management, can't be separate from our style of football or our focus on academy development

So a very rough approach with a better cascade:

- Our matchday experience both in terms of off-field and on-field product will make us the number one entertainment product for suffolk, north essex and cambridgeshire

- We will ensure an attractive and attacking style of football is embedded across all teams within the club, from youth to first team

- We will introduce a footballing structure and strategy, including academy / youth development funding, so that a significant number of players are available to the first team squad, players who can immediately embed into and improve the first team

- we will seek to buy young players externally, who have the potential to improve, match the footballing style of the club, and will increase the valuation of the playing staff

- our first team coaching staff will be selected to match, and to follow, the footballing and fan centric strategy of the club, and deliver incremental progress in team performance and league position

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Its always really worthwhile debating and reviewing these... on 17:21 - Dec 2 with 631 viewsunstableblue

Its always really worthwhile debating and reviewing these... on 15:59 - Dec 2 by BlueBadger

Ironically enough, the Management Speak in your first paragraph sounds EXACTLY like an ITFC press statement.


that's the problem none of our press conferences sound anything like that!!

now we'd never want our beloved club to fall into the b@llshot bingo management speak I have to put up with.... but if you listen to well run clubs, managers, footballing/technical directors who are successful.. they do have this nailed.. especially as football is such small margins.... and they have 'line of sight' through the club

all I know is I worked with McKinsey on a transit organisation transformation; a large transit asset was split in two...one followed the Vision>Mission>Strategy>Goals/Objectives approach religiously..... and that included proper measurement of performance.. within a few years the difference in cost,timetable performance was staggering between the two transit services... in part because everyone there from the guy cleaning the carriage, to the CEO was on the same page..... the guy in the back of the north stand serving beer at half the speed he could.. is the same as a player passing back to the goalie when a pass between the lines was on!!!

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Its always really worthwhile debating and reviewing these... on 18:02 - Dec 2 with 573 viewsSwansea_Blue

Its always really worthwhile debating and reviewing these... on 16:56 - Dec 2 by jeera

His has pictures which you failed to provide.


I've failed haven't I?

Here's the strategy in a moving picture:

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Its always really worthwhile debating and reviewing these... on 18:15 - Dec 2 with 545 viewsunstableblue

Its always really worthwhile debating and reviewing these... on 18:02 - Dec 2 by Swansea_Blue

I've failed haven't I?

Here's the strategy in a moving picture:


You're missing the image of a fan falling asleep alongside the down the drain motion

But great work nonetheless

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The 5 point plan on 18:17 - Dec 2 with 529 viewsKeno

tou misunderstood, the aim was to get more than 5 points this season and credit where its due we have done that

we may not get many more

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Its always really worthwhile debating and reviewing these... on 18:33 - Dec 2 with 495 viewsjeera

Its always really worthwhile debating and reviewing these... on 18:15 - Dec 2 by unstableblue

You're missing the image of a fan falling asleep alongside the down the drain motion

But great work nonetheless


Or at least trying to drown him/her self in the cistern.

Or even the bowl for that matter. If you're gonna die does it matter?

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