| Voting without being vaccinated would likely be dangerous too.... on 08:20 - Mar 9 with 641 views | Herbivore |
Nice bit of voter suppression there. At least the Tories don't even pretend to care about democracy anymore, unless of course they are harping back to the referendum. |  |
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| Voting without being vaccinated would likely be dangerous too.... on 08:30 - Mar 9 with 610 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Voting without being vaccinated would likely be dangerous too.... on 08:20 - Mar 9 by Herbivore |
Nice bit of voter suppression there. At least the Tories don't even pretend to care about democracy anymore, unless of course they are harping back to the referendum. |
Having to show photographic id in order to voteis the norm in most countries around the world. Including many of our European neighbours such as a France, Germany, Holland etc. In France you have to show photographic id and a utility bill as proof of address.
The difference is that most of these countries already have compulsory id cards, which we don’t.
I don’t have an issue with the introduction of ID cards. But we don’t have them, so you are correct that this move is nothing more than shameless voter suppression. |  |
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| Voting without being vaccinated would likely be dangerous too.... on 08:31 - Mar 9 with 602 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Voting without being vaccinated would likely be dangerous too.... on 08:20 - Mar 9 by Herbivore |
Nice bit of voter suppression there. At least the Tories don't even pretend to care about democracy anymore, unless of course they are harping back to the referendum. |
Voter ID would be unwelcome however you do, I assume, realise it was a Labour government that made it a requirement in NI. |  |
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| Voting without being vaccinated would likely be dangerous too.... on 08:35 - Mar 9 with 585 views | Herbivore |
| Voting without being vaccinated would likely be dangerous too.... on 08:31 - Mar 9 by Pinewoodblue |
Voter ID would be unwelcome however you do, I assume, realise it was a Labour government that made it a requirement in NI. |
Yes, I do realise that. Nice attempt at whataboutery there. | |
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| Voting without being vaccinated would likely be dangerous too.... on 08:41 - Mar 9 with 578 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Voting without being vaccinated would likely be dangerous too.... on 08:31 - Mar 9 by Pinewoodblue |
Voter ID would be unwelcome however you do, I assume, realise it was a Labour government that made it a requirement in NI. |
Were there reasons for introducing voter id in Northern Ireland that are unique to the country that aren’t applicable in the wider UK though?
As the a guardian article states, there is very little voter fraud in the UK. | |
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| Voting without being vaccinated would likely be dangerous too.... on 09:14 - Mar 9 with 525 views | StokieBlue |
| Voting without being vaccinated would likely be dangerous too.... on 08:20 - Mar 9 by Herbivore |
Nice bit of voter suppression there. At least the Tories don't even pretend to care about democracy anymore, unless of course they are harping back to the referendum. |
This is an interesting debate though. As it stands it's clearly wrong to require photo ID if 24% of the country don't have one (an astonishing number without a passport really) and especially wrong as that is also heavily skewed towards ethnic minorities.
However I also don't really have an issue with some form of issued ID card but I do understand that is coming from a position where many of the concerns highlighted by those against don't affect me so much.
In this instance and form it's clearly totally wrong though. Did you see my thread on Georgia in the US - seems to be a thing to try and suppress voters at the moment.
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| Voting without being vaccinated would likely be dangerous too.... on 09:32 - Mar 9 with 494 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Voting without being vaccinated would likely be dangerous too.... on 08:30 - Mar 9 by GlasgowBlue |
Having to show photographic id in order to voteis the norm in most countries around the world. Including many of our European neighbours such as a France, Germany, Holland etc. In France you have to show photographic id and a utility bill as proof of address.
The difference is that most of these countries already have compulsory id cards, which we don’t.
I don’t have an issue with the introduction of ID cards. But we don’t have them, so you are correct that this move is nothing more than shameless voter suppression. |
I imagine the Govt are well aware of who doesn't have photo ID and will be well aware those people would have problems with this. We can only guess whether they see that as a benefit to their ballot box chances. There's a sniff of suppression about it all imo.
I don't see what's wrong with having a single ID card though - long overdue (although slightly less useful now we're not seamlessly aligned to the EU. It would have been really handy to have one previously for work and holidays, having all ID in one place). |  |
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| Voting without being vaccinated would likely be dangerous too.... on 11:04 - Mar 9 with 420 views | WeWereZombies |
| Voting without being vaccinated would likely be dangerous too.... on 08:35 - Mar 9 by Herbivore |
Yes, I do realise that. Nice attempt at whataboutery there. |
I guess if we are going to tip toe around in fear of whataboutery accusation we had better not mention things like constituency boundary changes, high numbers of those employed in one constituency but not being able to afford to live there or the problems of being registered to vote if you are of no fixed abode or needing to constantly move residence through job seeking and/or expense of accommodation. ID cards could be useful as an easier pathway to voting for the unemployed, low paid and minority groups. |  |
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