| You building guys and gals - I need some advice, please! 13:57 - Nov 22 with 1047 views | Vic |
I have full planning permission on a single story kitchen extension to make a kitchen diner, with bifolds opening up onto the garden, plus a load of internal changes.
We’ve just got the quote back and it’s 50% higher than we’d expected. Not surprised, but we can’t afford it. So we will need to scale it down - a lot! This will not only reduce the footprint but also the appearance of the thing (much less glass, lower ridge line, etc. It really won’t affect anyone else and not be seen from the road.
My question is this- it this likely to come under a minor material amendment, or even a non material amendment or do you think I’m looking at having a whole new set of plans and anther planning application? Ps, I’m in north Suffolk (mid Suffolk council) [Post edited 22 Nov 2021 14:26]
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| You building guys and gals - I need some advice, please! on 14:10 - Nov 22 with 1005 views | itfcjoe |
Best bet is to get something designed up and then speak to them - but from sounds of things (and assuming the room faces only garden and not street) then minor amendment will be most likely
I'd almost be tempted to wait 12 months and then get it repriced as is as things are just at a level at the moment that won't be sustainable |  |
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| You building guys and gals - I need some advice, please! on 14:14 - Nov 22 with 981 views | EdwardStone |
My understanding was that if you have full permission for a scheme and then decide to build something smaller, the LPA will smile favourably upon the change.
They dislike the opposite scenario where you gain permission for a small scheme and then try to double the size by a series of minor amendments
But as Joe says....best to submit revised plans and get a written answer from the relevant people....they can be slippery tinkers in the Planning Dept |  | | |
| You building guys and gals - I need some advice, please! on 14:16 - Nov 22 with 979 views | textbackup |
get multiple quotes.
get quotes from builders to do day rate/cash work, you chip in with the donkey work etc.
our extension we had quotes from builders for the "shell" ranging from £40k-65k
in the end went with a mate who worked on a day rate, i arranged all the materials etc, paid him cash, i done the donkey work, and it came in at approx £27-29k
end of the day, if yout arent putting in any of the leg work they will fleece you, because its their time when they are on the phone sorting deliveries etc.
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| You building guys and gals - I need some advice, please! on 14:22 - Nov 22 with 940 views | itfcjoe |
| You building guys and gals - I need some advice, please! on 14:16 - Nov 22 by textbackup |
get multiple quotes.
get quotes from builders to do day rate/cash work, you chip in with the donkey work etc.
our extension we had quotes from builders for the "shell" ranging from £40k-65k
in the end went with a mate who worked on a day rate, i arranged all the materials etc, paid him cash, i done the donkey work, and it came in at approx £27-29k
end of the day, if yout arent putting in any of the leg work they will fleece you, because its their time when they are on the phone sorting deliveries etc.
local to ipswich? |
If you don't have mates who can help you I wouldn't advise that at the moment - labour so short everywhere you just won't be able to get subbies in as they are all too busy and you have no sway on it.
But each to their own, seeing a lot lile this at the moment where it's been outstanding for months and they just can't get it finished | |
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| You building guys and gals - I need some advice, please! on 14:24 - Nov 22 with 922 views | Vic |
| You building guys and gals - I need some advice, please! on 14:16 - Nov 22 by textbackup |
get multiple quotes.
get quotes from builders to do day rate/cash work, you chip in with the donkey work etc.
our extension we had quotes from builders for the "shell" ranging from £40k-65k
in the end went with a mate who worked on a day rate, i arranged all the materials etc, paid him cash, i done the donkey work, and it came in at approx £27-29k
end of the day, if yout arent putting in any of the leg work they will fleece you, because its their time when they are on the phone sorting deliveries etc.
local to ipswich? |
A few miles south of Harleston, and just north of Dennington - Lowhouse country!
We’re getting other quotes, but cant see at the moment I’m going to get something I can afford. Plans were done before everything went crazy. Joe’s suggestion concurs with just about every other friendly builder I’ve spoken to. Trouble is, Mrs V wants it tomorrow!! (Think she might be disappointed on this occasion) | |
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| You building guys and gals - I need some advice, please! on 14:39 - Nov 22 with 835 views | Coastalblue |
| You building guys and gals - I need some advice, please! on 14:24 - Nov 22 by Vic |
A few miles south of Harleston, and just north of Dennington - Lowhouse country!
We’re getting other quotes, but cant see at the moment I’m going to get something I can afford. Plans were done before everything went crazy. Joe’s suggestion concurs with just about every other friendly builder I’ve spoken to. Trouble is, Mrs V wants it tomorrow!! (Think she might be disappointed on this occasion) |
I'd also advise the same, I'm not in construction any more but was for nearly 3 decades, prices are crazy at the moment and the other thing to consider is that anybody you might actually want and trust to do the work probably won't be able to start for 6-12 months anyway.
A lot of my social circle are builders and tradesman, those that I'd employ are booked up almost a year in advance now for bigger jobs. |  |
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| You building guys and gals - I need some advice, please! on 14:43 - Nov 22 with 820 views | Vic |
| You building guys and gals - I need some advice, please! on 14:39 - Nov 22 by Coastalblue |
I'd also advise the same, I'm not in construction any more but was for nearly 3 decades, prices are crazy at the moment and the other thing to consider is that anybody you might actually want and trust to do the work probably won't be able to start for 6-12 months anyway.
A lot of my social circle are builders and tradesman, those that I'd employ are booked up almost a year in advance now for bigger jobs. |
We’ve got a guy who’s done quite a bit for various family members that we’d like to give the job to. He’s had us pencilled in for several months, but it will still be May 2022 before he can do anything. At least that gives us time to get changes made if Mrs V can’t wait any longer. | |
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| You building guys and gals - I need some advice, please! on 17:52 - Nov 22 with 676 views | textbackup |
| You building guys and gals - I need some advice, please! on 14:43 - Nov 22 by Vic |
We’ve got a guy who’s done quite a bit for various family members that we’d like to give the job to. He’s had us pencilled in for several months, but it will still be May 2022 before he can do anything. At least that gives us time to get changes made if Mrs V can’t wait any longer. |
You never know though with other jobs falling through, ours said he didn’t know when he could get round, 3 weeks later the digger turns up and footings get dug. | |
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| You building guys and gals - I need some advice, please! on 19:24 - Nov 22 with 618 views | TVRBlue |
Hi,
The answer to your question is you will need to make a non-material planning application to Mid Suffolk Council as you will be constructing an extension not in accordance with the originally approved plans. The reason it will be a non-material amendment is because you are reducing the size of the extension. If you were increasing the size of the extension a new "full" householder type planning application would need to be made.
For the non-material amendment application you will need to supply to the planning department a copy of the "as existing" survey drawing, a copy of the "originally approved" design drawing, and a copy of the "new reduced in size" design drawing. In the non-material application form there is a section (box) where you have to describe the changes to the originally approved scheme that you now want the Local Authority to approve.
As the larger extension has already been approved I would suggest there shouldn't be any problems in getting the non-material amendment scheme approved.
Oh, and the fee payable to the Local Authority for a non-material amendment application is currently £34-00.
Hope this helps but PM me if you have any other queries. |  | | |
| You building guys and gals - I need some advice, please! on 19:29 - Nov 22 with 592 views | TVRBlue |
Sorry, I should also mention this would only cover planning permission matters and not building regulations.
If you already have building regs approval for your original extension I would show the reduced scheme design drawings to Mid Suffolk building control department (this can be done by e-mail) and ask them if they are happy to work with "substituting" the new scheme with the originally approved scheme even though the new design drawings won't be building regs drawings if you know what I mean?!
PM me if you want any further advice. | | | |
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