| Liam Manning 13:48 - Dec 6 with 1466 views | Zx1988 |
Just having a discussion with an MK-supporting friend...
If we were to end up making a formal approach to MK for Liam Manning, how do you reckon he'd react? Would he want to see if he can finish what he's started at MK, or would he jump at the chance to join a club with which one would assume he has an affinity, and would probably double/triple his salary?
I suppose in a way it's somewhat moot, as Winkleman wound never grant permission for us to talk to him, and it would be down to Manning to follow in Russell Martin's footsteps and resign/force a move.
There would be a certain delicious irony in Winkleman being unable, twice in one season, to prevent his assets from being stolen away from under his nose! |  |
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| Liam Manning on 13:53 - Dec 6 with 1313 views | gordon |
Well, what did your friend reckon? |  | | |
| Liam Manning on 13:59 - Dec 6 with 1236 views | Rozz |
Don't know anything about Winkleman, but if I was a Dons fan I would have the right hump. I see Russel Martin is lining up bids for a couple of their team, which could be disruptive.
FWIW I think it's too high risk for him. He's riding a wave right now, and if he failed here (as experienced managers have before him) he would be out on his arse in 12 months looking a much less attractive prospect.
I imagine he'll get more plaudits for promoting them than he would us, so I'd want to see out the season and chance it in the playoffs. |  | | |
| Liam Manning on 14:00 - Dec 6 with 1202 views | gordon |
| Liam Manning on 13:59 - Dec 6 by Rozz |
Don't know anything about Winkleman, but if I was a Dons fan I would have the right hump. I see Russel Martin is lining up bids for a couple of their team, which could be disruptive.
FWIW I think it's too high risk for him. He's riding a wave right now, and if he failed here (as experienced managers have before him) he would be out on his arse in 12 months looking a much less attractive prospect.
I imagine he'll get more plaudits for promoting them than he would us, so I'd want to see out the season and chance it in the playoffs. |
100%, he'd be mad to leave MK Dons now. | | | |
| Liam Manning on 14:01 - Dec 6 with 1192 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Liam Manning on 13:59 - Dec 6 by Rozz |
Don't know anything about Winkleman, but if I was a Dons fan I would have the right hump. I see Russel Martin is lining up bids for a couple of their team, which could be disruptive.
FWIW I think it's too high risk for him. He's riding a wave right now, and if he failed here (as experienced managers have before him) he would be out on his arse in 12 months looking a much less attractive prospect.
I imagine he'll get more plaudits for promoting them than he would us, so I'd want to see out the season and chance it in the playoffs. |
Having already lost Martin they'll fight tooth and nail to keep Manning too. |  |
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| Liam Manning on 14:06 - Dec 6 with 1115 views | chicoazul |
| Liam Manning on 14:00 - Dec 6 by gordon |
100%, he'd be mad to leave MK Dons now. |
Could double or even treble his salary. 3 year contract, who cares if it doesn’t work out, lovely pay off. Hurst is working. |  |
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| Liam Manning on 14:12 - Dec 6 with 1028 views | jayessess |
| Liam Manning on 14:00 - Dec 6 by gordon |
100%, he'd be mad to leave MK Dons now. |
As I said on the Ryan Lowe thread - football managers are ambitious, confident types. There's no way he'd be sat there thinking "I'd fail at Ipswich" or give a second thought to treating MK Dons as a brief stepping stone.
Bigger salary, bigger budget, club with a higher ceiling, all very obvious selling points. There's an opportunity cost to consider too. MK Dons are still very much a long shot for promotion, plenty of traffic, lots of teams with bigger budgets and bigger squads between them and 6th even. Finish the season in 7th and suddenly, like Michael Appleton, you're not in the running for the £500-600k a year jobs like Ipswich. |  |
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| Liam Manning on 14:13 - Dec 6 with 986 views | HARRY10 |
| Liam Manning on 14:06 - Dec 6 by chicoazul |
Could double or even treble his salary. 3 year contract, who cares if it doesn’t work out, lovely pay off. Hurst is working. |
Maybe at MK Dons, as with other clubs, the manager is allowed time to build. Our remit would most probably be 6 months, or you are sacked. That is something which will be in the mind of many a manager. | | | |
| Liam Manning on 14:17 - Dec 6 with 933 views | jayessess |
| Liam Manning on 14:13 - Dec 6 by HARRY10 |
Maybe at MK Dons, as with other clubs, the manager is allowed time to build. Our remit would most probably be 6 months, or you are sacked. That is something which will be in the mind of many a manager. |
They sacked Paul Tisdale with a 42.5% win percentage, 3 months into his first season in League One.
Well-run football clubs set expectations for their managers and dismiss them if they aren't met. [Post edited 6 Dec 2021 14:19]
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| Liam Manning on 14:24 - Dec 6 with 810 views | Zx1988 |
| Liam Manning on 14:13 - Dec 6 by HARRY10 |
Maybe at MK Dons, as with other clubs, the manager is allowed time to build. Our remit would most probably be 6 months, or you are sacked. That is something which will be in the mind of many a manager. |
I think any football manager worth his salt is clued-up enough to realise that the higher up the pyramid you go, the greater the expectation is, and the quicker success is demanded.
If Manning backs himself to succeed at higher levels, he will, no doubt, back himself to succeed without being given multiple seasons with which to build a successful team.
Football has moved on dramatically since the days of Bobby Robson and George Burley and, although we may disagree with it, we are now at a position where a manager will only be given a season (1.5 tops) to make an impact. [Post edited 6 Dec 2021 14:25]
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| Liam Manning on 14:55 - Dec 6 with 606 views | chicoazul |
| Liam Manning on 14:13 - Dec 6 by HARRY10 |
Maybe at MK Dons, as with other clubs, the manager is allowed time to build. Our remit would most probably be 6 months, or you are sacked. That is something which will be in the mind of many a manager. |
No managers get time to build anymore, almost everywhere. This is because many clubs have devolved responsibility for “club building” from the Manager to the executive level. There are in fact few Managers now beyond a simple title. Most of them are coaches first and foremost. | |
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