| Arsenal / Crypto on 15:27 - Dec 12 with 1574 views | Illinoisblue |
All a giant scam designed by shysters and fraudsters to rip off gullible football fans. “Fan tokens” ffs. |  |
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| Arsenal / Crypto on 15:38 - Dec 12 with 1546 views | SomethingBlue |
You can vote on the shade of the carpet in the training ground caretaker’s bathroom and that’s about it - it’s an awful, dangerous scam and nothing to do with involving fans. |  |
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| Arsenal / Crypto on 16:14 - Dec 12 with 1487 views | pennblue |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 15:27 - Dec 12 by Illinoisblue |
All a giant scam designed by shysters and fraudsters to rip off gullible football fans. “Fan tokens” ffs. |
Totally agree it’s a money making scheme designed to increase revenue from a worldwide fan base
But there are quite a few premier league clubs doing it | |
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| Arsenal / Crypto on 17:02 - Dec 12 with 1435 views | RonFearonsHair |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 15:27 - Dec 12 by Illinoisblue |
All a giant scam designed by shysters and fraudsters to rip off gullible football fans. “Fan tokens” ffs. |
"All a giant scam designed by shysters and fraudsters to rip off gullible football fans."
I mean, that wouldn't have been an unreasonable tagline for our season ticket campaigns over the last 15 years. |  | | |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 10:44 - Dec 13 with 1228 views | mutters |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 15:27 - Dec 12 by Illinoisblue |
All a giant scam designed by shysters and fraudsters to rip off gullible football fans. “Fan tokens” ffs. |
With respects, do you actually understand what they are offering and what Chiliz blockchain is all about?
In the non-too-distant future, you won't be buying Panini stickers to go into your album, you will be buying/swapping/trading NFTs to be stored in your virtual album. It's similar to photos these days most are already virtualised. |  |
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| Arsenal / Crypto on 11:09 - Dec 13 with 1187 views | SaigonTractor |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 10:44 - Dec 13 by mutters |
With respects, do you actually understand what they are offering and what Chiliz blockchain is all about?
In the non-too-distant future, you won't be buying Panini stickers to go into your album, you will be buying/swapping/trading NFTs to be stored in your virtual album. It's similar to photos these days most are already virtualised. |
I really hope I'm not.
Imagine paying for a digital receipt that says you own a picture with Ronaldo on it. That's all NFT's are.
Oh and they're awful for the environment too. |  | | |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 11:14 - Dec 13 with 1152 views | thebooks |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 10:44 - Dec 13 by mutters |
With respects, do you actually understand what they are offering and what Chiliz blockchain is all about?
In the non-too-distant future, you won't be buying Panini stickers to go into your album, you will be buying/swapping/trading NFTs to be stored in your virtual album. It's similar to photos these days most are already virtualised. |
No I won’t. |  | | |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 11:15 - Dec 13 with 1151 views | thebooks |
Lovely to see clubs leveraging fan loyalty in order to sell them a pyramid scheme, sorry, “enhance the fan experience”. | | | |
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| Arsenal / Crypto on 11:17 - Dec 13 with 1146 views | SaigonTractor |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 11:15 - Dec 13 by thebooks |
Lovely to see clubs leveraging fan loyalty in order to sell them a pyramid scheme, sorry, “enhance the fan experience”. |
As miserable as the last 15 or so years of supporting Ipswich have been, I'm really glad we're not "big" enough to start pulling any of this nonsense. | | | |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 11:18 - Dec 13 with 1138 views | thebooks |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 11:17 - Dec 13 by SaigonTractor |
As miserable as the last 15 or so years of supporting Ipswich have been, I'm really glad we're not "big" enough to start pulling any of this nonsense. |
Downside of getting promoted to the PL :-( | | | |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 11:29 - Dec 13 with 1118 views | IpswichKnight |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 10:44 - Dec 13 by mutters |
With respects, do you actually understand what they are offering and what Chiliz blockchain is all about?
In the non-too-distant future, you won't be buying Panini stickers to go into your album, you will be buying/swapping/trading NFTs to be stored in your virtual album. It's similar to photos these days most are already virtualised. |
Hey kids Dads just got to log in and buy some NFT for your sticker wallet. That’s really going to catch on. Like all crypto it’s a scam and a money laundering paradise. | | | |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 11:33 - Dec 13 with 1109 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 15:27 - Dec 12 by Illinoisblue |
All a giant scam designed by shysters and fraudsters to rip off gullible football fans. “Fan tokens” ffs. |
Keiran Maguire has done a fair bit about it and as you say not a long way from being a scam
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| Arsenal / Crypto on 12:15 - Dec 13 with 1042 views | mutters |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 11:09 - Dec 13 by SaigonTractor |
I really hope I'm not.
Imagine paying for a digital receipt that says you own a picture with Ronaldo on it. That's all NFT's are.
Oh and they're awful for the environment too. |
It's the way the world is going.
When you buy a Panini Ronaldo sticker for your sticker book, do you actually own the rights to the picture? No you don't. You own a physical copy of that picture, that's it. | |
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| Arsenal / Crypto on 12:18 - Dec 13 with 1033 views | mutters |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 11:29 - Dec 13 by IpswichKnight |
Hey kids Dads just got to log in and buy some NFT for your sticker wallet. That’s really going to catch on. Like all crypto it’s a scam and a money laundering paradise. |
You mean like people buying skins for Fortnite or buying different characters for Minecraft? Or maybe a youngster you knew wanted some Roblox bux for Roblox so they could buy a new outfit for the game. Or maybe an in-game pet.....
Absolutely the same idea. | |
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| Arsenal / Crypto on 12:34 - Dec 13 with 1016 views | SaigonTractor |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 12:15 - Dec 13 by mutters |
It's the way the world is going.
When you buy a Panini Ronaldo sticker for your sticker book, do you actually own the rights to the picture? No you don't. You own a physical copy of that picture, that's it. |
You don't own the rights to a NFT either. You own a little line that says you own it but practically means absolutely nothing. It's like me saying I own the Mona Lisa because I have a little piece of paper in a cleaning cupboard nearby that says I do.
Nobody can right click and save my panini stickers to get the exact same experience either. | | | |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 12:59 - Dec 13 with 988 views | mutters |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 12:34 - Dec 13 by SaigonTractor |
You don't own the rights to a NFT either. You own a little line that says you own it but practically means absolutely nothing. It's like me saying I own the Mona Lisa because I have a little piece of paper in a cleaning cupboard nearby that says I do.
Nobody can right click and save my panini stickers to get the exact same experience either. |
Spot on, which is why they are a good thing to compare. You don't own these assets, you simply own a representation or an instance of them. That's true whether it's a real-life or virtual version of the Panini sticker book.
Somebody could however borrow your book, photocopy a page of it and print out a copy, cut out the relevant required stickers and stick it in their book. Not the same experience as opening packs...
Panini have already started on this path with virtual sticker books. ( https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/news/0267-11e159d249a8-17bf0c134364-1000--pan [Post edited 13 Dec 2021 13:51]
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| Arsenal / Crypto on 13:02 - Dec 13 with 980 views | mutters |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 11:14 - Dec 13 by thebooks |
No I won’t. |
You have already been buying digital assets but you don't realise it.
When did you last have a physical plane ticket? Or a cinema ticket? Even an in-game purchase..... | |
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| Arsenal / Crypto on 16:08 - Dec 13 with 900 views | IpswichKnight |
| Arsenal / Crypto on 12:18 - Dec 13 by mutters |
You mean like people buying skins for Fortnite or buying different characters for Minecraft? Or maybe a youngster you knew wanted some Roblox bux for Roblox so they could buy a new outfit for the game. Or maybe an in-game pet.....
Absolutely the same idea. |
All of which are a total con. Give us your money and we’ll give you a box of something for the game, give us more money to get another box. It’s not dissimilar to slot machines you are giving them money in hope you might get something useful but if you don’t they will say better luck next time. | | | |
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