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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? 17:35 - Aug 27 with 1667 viewsbobbyramsey

Seems a bit daft to me…..
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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 17:36 - Aug 27 with 1642 viewsStokieBlue

We clearly play a rotation system depending on the tactics worked out in the week, sometimes it will work brilliantly, other times it will need adjustments and substitutions.

Reading posts about people being dropped when it's clearly for tactically or fitness reasons every match is going to be hugely tiresome.

SB

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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 17:39 - Aug 27 with 1610 viewsbobbyramsey

Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 17:36 - Aug 27 by StokieBlue

We clearly play a rotation system depending on the tactics worked out in the week, sometimes it will work brilliantly, other times it will need adjustments and substitutions.

Reading posts about people being dropped when it's clearly for tactically or fitness reasons every match is going to be hugely tiresome.

SB


No room for debate then?

KM rules……
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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 17:44 - Aug 27 with 1568 viewsStokieBlue

Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 17:39 - Aug 27 by bobbyramsey

No room for debate then?

KM rules……


But you've not outlined a debate, you've just said it's daft.

In the same way as we need to get used to mistakes passing out from the back we will need to get used to rotation. Within that context it's not an odd decision.

Let's see you add to this debate rather than just sniping.

SB

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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 17:47 - Aug 27 with 1553 viewsITFCBlues

Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 17:44 - Aug 27 by StokieBlue

But you've not outlined a debate, you've just said it's daft.

In the same way as we need to get used to mistakes passing out from the back we will need to get used to rotation. Within that context it's not an odd decision.

Let's see you add to this debate rather than just sniping.

SB


We can certainly add to the reasons for rotation when we've just had a week off and don't have a mid week league game though.

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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 17:51 - Aug 27 with 1526 viewsSkip_Intro

easy to say after FT...
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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 17:55 - Aug 27 with 1498 viewsbilllm

McKenna, a poor call,
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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 17:55 - Aug 27 with 1500 viewsquad

Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 17:44 - Aug 27 by StokieBlue

But you've not outlined a debate, you've just said it's daft.

In the same way as we need to get used to mistakes passing out from the back we will need to get used to rotation. Within that context it's not an odd decision.

Let's see you add to this debate rather than just sniping.

SB


If Harness's goal had not been incorrectly disallowed by the referee then we would have won the game. And Harness would have 4 goals in 6 games.

The fact that he has come off the bench and scored yet another goal should warrant that perhaps he should have started today. It's certainly a vaild argument and worthy of debate. Surely it's fairly obvious why some fans might think it was a mistake. He has been a threat all season, so does seem a bit odd in some respects.
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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 18:15 - Aug 27 with 1433 viewsStokieBlue

Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 17:55 - Aug 27 by quad

If Harness's goal had not been incorrectly disallowed by the referee then we would have won the game. And Harness would have 4 goals in 6 games.

The fact that he has come off the bench and scored yet another goal should warrant that perhaps he should have started today. It's certainly a vaild argument and worthy of debate. Surely it's fairly obvious why some fans might think it was a mistake. He has been a threat all season, so does seem a bit odd in some respects.


He's not raised a single point of debate though so hard to say he's interested in debate. He just wanted to moan.

Your points are valid however if McKenna wanted to play Ladapo today then one of JJ, Harness or Chaplin is missing out and given JJs goal last match it would also seem harsh to drop him.

It's rotation with the opposition in mind, nothing more. People are going to have to get used to not having a fixed starting eleven.

SB

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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 18:38 - Aug 27 with 1340 viewsquad

Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 18:15 - Aug 27 by StokieBlue

He's not raised a single point of debate though so hard to say he's interested in debate. He just wanted to moan.

Your points are valid however if McKenna wanted to play Ladapo today then one of JJ, Harness or Chaplin is missing out and given JJs goal last match it would also seem harsh to drop him.

It's rotation with the opposition in mind, nothing more. People are going to have to get used to not having a fixed starting eleven.

SB


I've said before that given their goal scoring threat I would be starting Chaplin, Harness, Burns and Morsy every game. Unless any of those players were unfit or they desperately needed a rest.

Just my opinion. If the main striker is not scoring then we need our other best goalscorers. But in McKenna we trust.

I think McKenna needed to choose either Ladapo or JJ as the main striker for this particular game and bench the other one. Valid arguments for either starting, but I wouldn't have started both of them personally.
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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 18:41 - Aug 27 with 1327 viewsbobbyramsey

Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 18:15 - Aug 27 by StokieBlue

He's not raised a single point of debate though so hard to say he's interested in debate. He just wanted to moan.

Your points are valid however if McKenna wanted to play Ladapo today then one of JJ, Harness or Chaplin is missing out and given JJs goal last match it would also seem harsh to drop him.

It's rotation with the opposition in mind, nothing more. People are going to have to get used to not having a fixed starting eleven.

SB


I was interested to hear others opinions, personally I didn’t see the logic. It’s easy to say it’s KM’s call and that we don’t know what goes on in training/behind the scenes but that just suffocates all discussion.
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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 19:18 - Aug 27 with 1271 viewshomer_123

....up until today...no one has been moaning about rotation.

Are you wanting us to make a signing or two before deadline?

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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 20:56 - Aug 27 with 1165 viewsChurchman

Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 19:18 - Aug 27 by homer_123

....up until today...no one has been moaning about rotation.

Are you wanting us to make a signing or two before deadline?


It’s more to do with failing to win bringing out the criticism.

McKenna has been clear about picking what he considers the best team to do a job. It’s not always going to work, but despite the growing gloom on this board I’ll settle for 14 from 18 points for the first six games.

As for signings, people love them. More the better. That’s why Sky have their yellow ties and deadline day with Jim Bore-me-to-death and the goggle eyed bloke with a mouth like a monkey’s ringpiece getting red in the face with excitement.
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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 21:07 - Aug 27 with 1147 viewsibbleobble

Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 18:15 - Aug 27 by StokieBlue

He's not raised a single point of debate though so hard to say he's interested in debate. He just wanted to moan.

Your points are valid however if McKenna wanted to play Ladapo today then one of JJ, Harness or Chaplin is missing out and given JJs goal last match it would also seem harsh to drop him.

It's rotation with the opposition in mind, nothing more. People are going to have to get used to not having a fixed starting eleven.

SB


You just said it would be, “harsh to drop John-Jules”. Shouldn’t you have said “rotate” to support your argument. If JJ scores a goal a game in his next 5 consecutive matches to keep Harness out, what is Harness then? Still rotated or dropped?
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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 21:20 - Aug 27 with 1115 viewsStokieBlue

Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 21:07 - Aug 27 by ibbleobble

You just said it would be, “harsh to drop John-Jules”. Shouldn’t you have said “rotate” to support your argument. If JJ scores a goal a game in his next 5 consecutive matches to keep Harness out, what is Harness then? Still rotated or dropped?


Drop was his terminology and thus I responded with that. That won't happen, even if he scores goals he will be rotated. It is the nature of McKennaball.

SB

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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 21:25 - Aug 27 with 1090 viewsjeera

Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 21:07 - Aug 27 by ibbleobble

You just said it would be, “harsh to drop John-Jules”. Shouldn’t you have said “rotate” to support your argument. If JJ scores a goal a game in his next 5 consecutive matches to keep Harness out, what is Harness then? Still rotated or dropped?


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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 21:33 - Aug 27 with 1065 viewsjeera

Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 21:25 - Aug 27 by jeera

How were Vieri and Kallon today?


C'mon Alan whatsyourface the down-voter.

What's your reasoning?

Did you even understand the comment or are you going all scattergun here?
[Post edited 27 Aug 2022 21:34]

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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 21:36 - Aug 27 with 1055 viewsjeera

Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 21:20 - Aug 27 by StokieBlue

Drop was his terminology and thus I responded with that. That won't happen, even if he scores goals he will be rotated. It is the nature of McKennaball.

SB


You use thought and reasoning.

They don't like thought and reasoning.

It confuses them.

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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 22:13 - Aug 27 with 1013 viewsibbleobble

Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 21:25 - Aug 27 by jeera

How were Vieri and Kallon today?


Barnsley have that much strength in depth they could afford to rest them. Sorry, dropped them. Rotated them. Who knows!?
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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 00:27 - Aug 28 with 863 viewsTerra_Farma

Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 17:44 - Aug 27 by StokieBlue

But you've not outlined a debate, you've just said it's daft.

In the same way as we need to get used to mistakes passing out from the back we will need to get used to rotation. Within that context it's not an odd decision.

Let's see you add to this debate rather than just sniping.

SB


Whose lit your tampon SB?
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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 00:33 - Aug 28 with 855 viewsStokieBlue

Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 00:27 - Aug 28 by Terra_Farma

Whose lit your tampon SB?


You've managed to not add to the debate and be sexist as well.

Congratulations.

SB

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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 02:45 - Aug 28 with 793 viewsBigCommon

Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 17:55 - Aug 27 by billlm

McKenna, a poor call,


Not really... Had that goal stood, which it should have done. Then Harness is a hero and KM , is a genius..
The biggest surprise for me, wasn't so much the selection. But how well Barnsley stuck in the game and pressed us, having played mid-week..
Once they did tire, they sh/housed another 10-15 minutes away from us.
When they finally looked dead on their feet, last 10mins plus the 8mins added on, we carved them open 3 or 4 times, and should really have put one of those chances away. But fare play to their keeper, who made a couple of good saves....
The disallowed goal was a big turning point, imo. Gave them a lift, when it could've crushed them, with 20 minutes to go..I think if we go two goals clear, at that stage in the game. Then the game opens up a bit for the fresh subs to exploit. Which was probably the game plan. And would have worked out well, but for some sloppy defending on our part..... Imo, some individual errors, at both ends have made some selection choices , a negative conversation. When , it was a disallowed goal and the width of a post away from being a well executed plan.
Biggest pluses for me, were Lee Evans passing range. At least we've got a tool in the box that can bypass a decent high press, if we're having trouble trying to pick a way through. And the fact that , at no stage , were we settling for a draw in this game. We kept going for a winner, but fell just short . Some teams would have settled for a point and played out a boring last 5-10 minutes. But we kept going..
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Why was Harness dropped to the bench? on 03:26 - Aug 28 with 776 viewscatch74

Feedback from some of the Portsmouth lot I know was that Harness would be unplayable one week and anonymous the next. Maybe rotation’s is a good way to keep him on his toes.

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