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Following the drugs thread the other day 15:53 - Dec 20 with 2233 viewsbluelagos

"...the National Police Chiefs’ Council has decided to effectively decriminalise cannabis and cocaine in England"

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/20/england-police-decriminali

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Following the drugs thread the other day on 16:00 - Dec 20 with 2189 viewsnoggin

I haven't yet read the article but surely, if they're going to decriminalise drugs, they would be better legalising them, so taking them out of the hands of criminals and also ensuring quality?

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Following the drugs thread the other day on 16:14 - Dec 20 with 2139 viewsRadlett_blue

Following the drugs thread the other day on 16:00 - Dec 20 by noggin

I haven't yet read the article but surely, if they're going to decriminalise drugs, they would be better legalising them, so taking them out of the hands of criminals and also ensuring quality?


I guess decriminalising would be the first step on that road.

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Following the drugs thread the other day on 16:18 - Dec 20 with 2126 viewsXYZ

Following the drugs thread the other day on 16:00 - Dec 20 by noggin

I haven't yet read the article but surely, if they're going to decriminalise drugs, they would be better legalising them, so taking them out of the hands of criminals and also ensuring quality?


The idiot politicians leave the police, NHS, social services and charities to deal with their shameful laws, so unfortunately it has to be an "in spite of the law" approach ...
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Following the drugs thread the other day on 16:21 - Dec 20 with 2100 viewsRadlett_blue

Following the drugs thread the other day on 16:18 - Dec 20 by XYZ

The idiot politicians leave the police, NHS, social services and charities to deal with their shameful laws, so unfortunately it has to be an "in spite of the law" approach ...


Indeed, the "war on drugs" is unwinnable. However politicians, especially in the US, delight at laws which give long prison sentences to low end drug dealers. This only creates a career criminal, while plenty of others will step into their shoes.

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Following the drugs thread the other day on 16:23 - Dec 20 with 2100 viewsbluelagos

Following the drugs thread the other day on 16:14 - Dec 20 by Radlett_blue

I guess decriminalising would be the first step on that road.


Strikes me that what is being proposed is the police making a policing decision (that for ordinary users - treatment is more appropriate than prosecutions) and legalisation is something that is not their call, rather one for politicians.

Agree it would be a step towards legalisation at some point - somehow can't see Braverman going down that route.

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Following the drugs thread the other day on 16:33 - Dec 20 with 2051 viewsXYZ

Following the drugs thread the other day on 16:21 - Dec 20 by Radlett_blue

Indeed, the "war on drugs" is unwinnable. However politicians, especially in the US, delight at laws which give long prison sentences to low end drug dealers. This only creates a career criminal, while plenty of others will step into their shoes.


Indeed. It's a war on the poor and excluded, ultimately.

Unfortunately Labour will be just as bad as the tories on this. God knows who they get into the focus groups on drug policies - it's the "soft on drugs" headlines they fear rather than more and more lives ruined - health, collapsed families, criminal records, victims of casual crimes ...
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Following the drugs thread the other day on 16:41 - Dec 20 with 2009 viewsHARRY10

Following the drugs thread the other day on 16:21 - Dec 20 by Radlett_blue

Indeed, the "war on drugs" is unwinnable. However politicians, especially in the US, delight at laws which give long prison sentences to low end drug dealers. This only creates a career criminal, while plenty of others will step into their shoes.


But it desn't half bump up the profits of the private prisons

Which again brings up the question of what government services are for - private profit or public good ?

We over here can see the disasterous effect the former has had, and continues to have, on UK citizens and the economy

Every pound paid out in dividends, bonuses and umpteend different boards/directors is a pound not spent on providing the service (look away now, righties)

https://www.vogue.co.uk/arts-and-lifestyle/article/raw-sewage-viewpoint
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Following the drugs thread the other day on 17:37 - Dec 20 with 1951 viewsleitrimblue

Following the drugs thread the other day on 16:00 - Dec 20 by noggin

I haven't yet read the article but surely, if they're going to decriminalise drugs, they would be better legalising them, so taking them out of the hands of criminals and also ensuring quality?


To completely take drugs out of the hands of organised crime we would need to control production. Easy with weed as you could licence growers in the UK. But not so easy to do with coke etc
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Following the drugs thread the other day on 17:43 - Dec 20 with 1926 viewsnoggin

Following the drugs thread the other day on 17:37 - Dec 20 by leitrimblue

To completely take drugs out of the hands of organised crime we would need to control production. Easy with weed as you could licence growers in the UK. But not so easy to do with coke etc


I don't know, non-synthetic opiates are made with opium poppies.

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Following the drugs thread the other day on 17:46 - Dec 20 with 1920 viewsleitrimblue

Following the drugs thread the other day on 17:43 - Dec 20 by noggin

I don't know, non-synthetic opiates are made with opium poppies.


I'm sure there is a way. Think it would just take a lot more effort then weed. As the UK already grows a substantial amount of its own product.
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Following the drugs thread the other day on 18:10 - Dec 20 with 1892 viewsfactual_blue

Following the drugs thread the other day on 17:46 - Dec 20 by leitrimblue

I'm sure there is a way. Think it would just take a lot more effort then weed. As the UK already grows a substantial amount of its own product.


How about making it legally available for £9.35 for a month's supply?

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Following the drugs thread the other day on 18:39 - Dec 20 with 1834 viewsleitrimblue

Following the drugs thread the other day on 18:10 - Dec 20 by factual_blue

How about making it legally available for £9.35 for a month's supply?


Great deal Where do I sign up?
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Following the drugs thread the other day on 19:30 - Dec 20 with 1775 viewsronnyd

Always thought that governments made the laws, police and courts try to uphold them.
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Following the drugs thread the other day on 19:59 - Dec 20 with 1735 viewsjeera

Following the drugs thread the other day on 18:39 - Dec 20 by leitrimblue

Great deal Where do I sign up?


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Following the drugs thread the other day on 21:31 - Dec 20 with 1673 viewsXYZ

Following the drugs thread the other day on 19:59 - Dec 20 by jeera

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The Moose won't be happy.
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Following the drugs thread the other day on 22:02 - Dec 20 with 1637 viewsunstableblue

Following the drugs thread the other day on 16:00 - Dec 20 by noggin

I haven't yet read the article but surely, if they're going to decriminalise drugs, they would be better legalising them, so taking them out of the hands of criminals and also ensuring quality?


Was chatting to a mate in California where you’ve legalised marijuana and effectively the same for organic psychedelics.

He likes to partake.

What struck me was that point that you don’t have to enter the criminal world to procure, but also the fact that quality and strength is also transparent and clear, and of good quality.

The culture seems to be that you can choose exactly the kind of night you want, with surety.

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Following the drugs thread the other day on 09:20 - Dec 21 with 1496 viewsleitrimblue

Following the drugs thread the other day on 19:59 - Dec 20 by jeera

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You have a postal address for that?
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