| Portman Road Capacity 12:45 - Apr 18 with 2463 views | OldFart71 |
When we get promoted in May what will the gates be compared to now ? Know I jumping the gun, but we have the best chance since we arrived in this awful Division. I think there's every chance of gates 30,000 plus if we were pushing for the Premiership and gates between 35,000 and 40,000 for major teams such as Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham and even clubs like West Ham. |  | | |  |
| Portman Road Capacity on 13:13 - Apr 18 with 2303 views | Number22 |
It will be the same, as no building work is planned and we're selling out most weeks. |  | | |
| Portman Road Capacity on 13:21 - Apr 18 with 2260 views | SamWhiteUK |
Yeah, I'd love to know where you think extra fans are going to go |  | | |
| Portman Road Capacity on 13:21 - Apr 18 with 2270 views | homer_123 |
Can I politely remind you that we, as a club, have history here.
On two occasions we have invested heavily in the ground capacity/ stands and it has come back and bitten us in the rear end.
I would suggest that we leave this alone for a little while. |  |
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| Portman Road Capacity on 13:53 - Apr 18 with 2076 views | PioneerBlue |
There is currently no chance of 30k+ crowds. PR capacity doesn’t take it and any rebuild is 2-3-5 years away probably back end of that because it links with IBC planning which will no doubt move at a very slow pace. | |
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| Portman Road Capacity on 15:00 - Apr 18 with 1919 views | SlippinJimmyJuan |
I think the tricky thing about expanding the ground is striking the right balance. When things are good, it is easy to get carried away and see the good times never ending and games selling out forever more. What happens when progress slows? How long does it take to return to a sparsely populated ground?
Then you have to balance that with the need to redevelop aging parts of the ground, the need to safeguard future revenue streams, and the expected population growth. Not an easy decision to make. Capacity will almost certainly increase in the next decade or so, but how much by is not something I would want to be in charge of. | |
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| Portman Road Capacity on 15:32 - Apr 18 with 1793 views | OldFart71 |
| Portman Road Capacity on 15:00 - Apr 18 by SlippinJimmyJuan |
I think the tricky thing about expanding the ground is striking the right balance. When things are good, it is easy to get carried away and see the good times never ending and games selling out forever more. What happens when progress slows? How long does it take to return to a sparsely populated ground?
Then you have to balance that with the need to redevelop aging parts of the ground, the need to safeguard future revenue streams, and the expected population growth. Not an easy decision to make. Capacity will almost certainly increase in the next decade or so, but how much by is not something I would want to be in charge of. |
I think Gamechanger are very forward thinking and whilst I don't advocate running before you can walk and I fully understand those that point to the last time developement went TU why should it follow that the same situation occurs again ? Why I believe in the current set up more than the Sheepshanks/Burley era is that there appears a much more thought process of every aspect of the club. Don't get me wrong, Burley was and still is an ITFC legend. Love the bloke. But he was badly advised recruitment wise. Providing KM and Co are still around in the next three or four years and we make it to the Prem the emphasis will be more on consolidation than the yo-yo effect our cousins up the A140 have endured the past few seasons although it looks like that has come to an end this season. It makes more sense to consolidate with sensible recruitment as the yo-yo effect means you have to sell when going down and recruit players which you hope will fill the void left by your better players and it's no easy task to do this season after season. The major teams just buy two or three top players and get rid of a similar amount either due to age or believing the new recruits add something. Under these circumstances no reason to believe we can't achieve a larger base of ST holders, which has already been achieved having increased from around 13,000 up to 21,000 next season. | | | |
| Portman Road Capacity on 15:36 - Apr 18 with 1759 views | Kievthegreat |
| Portman Road Capacity on 15:32 - Apr 18 by OldFart71 |
I think Gamechanger are very forward thinking and whilst I don't advocate running before you can walk and I fully understand those that point to the last time developement went TU why should it follow that the same situation occurs again ? Why I believe in the current set up more than the Sheepshanks/Burley era is that there appears a much more thought process of every aspect of the club. Don't get me wrong, Burley was and still is an ITFC legend. Love the bloke. But he was badly advised recruitment wise. Providing KM and Co are still around in the next three or four years and we make it to the Prem the emphasis will be more on consolidation than the yo-yo effect our cousins up the A140 have endured the past few seasons although it looks like that has come to an end this season. It makes more sense to consolidate with sensible recruitment as the yo-yo effect means you have to sell when going down and recruit players which you hope will fill the void left by your better players and it's no easy task to do this season after season. The major teams just buy two or three top players and get rid of a similar amount either due to age or believing the new recruits add something. Under these circumstances no reason to believe we can't achieve a larger base of ST holders, which has already been achieved having increased from around 13,000 up to 21,000 next season. |
Don't refer to that lot as "our cousins", they'll start trying to have sex with us with that kind of talk. |  | | |
| Portman Road Capacity on 16:08 - Apr 18 with 1670 views | dirtyboy |
No requirement whatsoever to change what we have.
Much prefer to have a full stadium, restriction (as has been done) on ST so other people can get to games now and again and a full(er) stadium.
Imagine increasing it to say 40k and we get relegated because GC20 have sold us, KM has gone and there's 13k wallowing around in that...would be a disaster.
This club makes money by maximising what it has and TV money from being higher up.
Spend £50m on an extra 5,000 seats and it'd take each seat to bring in £10k net in a sensible timeframe of say 20 years to get a return.
A LOT can happen in 20 years. We could be in National League in 2043 if things conspired against us, Prem lose a TV deal to another country or whatever....(jesus, I sound pessimistic) anyway.
Leave PR as it is, just make it a nicer place to spend money. |  | | |
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| Portman Road Capacity on 16:09 - Apr 18 with 1660 views | BtreeBlueBlood |
| Portman Road Capacity on 13:13 - Apr 18 by Number22 |
It will be the same, as no building work is planned and we're selling out most weeks. |
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| Portman Road Capacity on 16:55 - Apr 18 with 1517 views | ipswichtillidie |
I mentioned this several months back and it’s already come back to the for. GC WILL look to redevelop the Cobbold stand at some point. Ashton has already held talks with the council regarding this. The carpark adjacent is subject to plans and the club are clearly trying to protect any future development of that stand by holding meetings with the council. Ashton said the stand would need to bring in revenue 52 weeks a year so won’t be used for just football purposes. This would offset a lot of concerns regarding financial implications longer term. Ashton seems to like the one tier stand and we have just moved the singing section into that stand. It will be promotion pending and I suspect the council May foot some of the bill in a joint type venture. What the stand will be used for and what the capacity will be is anyone’s guess. Just my thoughts on this. [Post edited 18 Apr 2023 17:03]
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| Portman Road Capacity on 18:46 - Apr 18 with 1263 views | azuremerlangus |
| Portman Road Capacity on 16:55 - Apr 18 by ipswichtillidie |
I mentioned this several months back and it’s already come back to the for. GC WILL look to redevelop the Cobbold stand at some point. Ashton has already held talks with the council regarding this. The carpark adjacent is subject to plans and the club are clearly trying to protect any future development of that stand by holding meetings with the council. Ashton said the stand would need to bring in revenue 52 weeks a year so won’t be used for just football purposes. This would offset a lot of concerns regarding financial implications longer term. Ashton seems to like the one tier stand and we have just moved the singing section into that stand. It will be promotion pending and I suspect the council May foot some of the bill in a joint type venture. What the stand will be used for and what the capacity will be is anyone’s guess. Just my thoughts on this. [Post edited 18 Apr 2023 17:03]
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The Cobbold stand is ripe for an update and it fits in with what you mention. Other than the possible scope of the design (and therefore the capacity) it is just a matter of timing.
Also, unless there is some grand plan for the Pioneer those corporate hospitality boxes will probably get finished sooner rather than later. |  |
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| Portman Road Capacity on 18:55 - Apr 18 with 1222 views | OldFart71 |
| Portman Road Capacity on 16:55 - Apr 18 by ipswichtillidie |
I mentioned this several months back and it’s already come back to the for. GC WILL look to redevelop the Cobbold stand at some point. Ashton has already held talks with the council regarding this. The carpark adjacent is subject to plans and the club are clearly trying to protect any future development of that stand by holding meetings with the council. Ashton said the stand would need to bring in revenue 52 weeks a year so won’t be used for just football purposes. This would offset a lot of concerns regarding financial implications longer term. Ashton seems to like the one tier stand and we have just moved the singing section into that stand. It will be promotion pending and I suspect the council May foot some of the bill in a joint type venture. What the stand will be used for and what the capacity will be is anyone’s guess. Just my thoughts on this. [Post edited 18 Apr 2023 17:03]
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I wouldn't see much sense in the capacity if enlarged to be less than 35,000. It wouldn't make financial sense any less than that. The stand in question would obviously be the Cobbold which opened season 70-71 and although it has done well for it's age in terms of coporate sales the old boxes at the front really shows it's age and I suspect a few more would buy into having a box if they were up to todays standard. Over the years many clubs such as Arsenal, Man City, Tottenham to name but three have all moved grounds, although Tottenham not that far. I don't want to see Town move, just move with the times. As I say everything in order of where we are. When PR was last developed too much was done at once based on one season finishing fifth in the Prem. I agree with those that say be careful but providing things are done in the right way no reason why we shouldn't have a stadium that we can be even more proud of. Of course there's alway the Budgies way of getting a new stand, just make sure there's nobody in it at the time and that it doesn't take out any of the other stands and that fireman Sam is on hand to douse the ashes. | | | |
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