| When is the Leicester points deduction decision due? 14:49 - Aug 11 with 4084 views | Trequartista |
Or is it just announced on any random day when they feel like having a look at it? |  |
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| When is the Leicester points deduction decision due? on 15:03 - Aug 11 with 4001 views | Guthrum |
Probably at a crucial point in the last month or so of the season, just when it looks like they're going to stay up. There will then be legal challenges and no final decision made until after the final game. |  |
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| When is the Leicester points deduction decision due? on 15:10 - Aug 11 with 3929 views | Trequartista |
| When is the Leicester points deduction decision due? on 15:03 - Aug 11 by Guthrum |
Probably at a crucial point in the last month or so of the season, just when it looks like they're going to stay up. There will then be legal challenges and no final decision made until after the final game. |
Oi you’re supposed to be the measured one, I’m the bitter cynic!
I know it’s a complete sporting and legal minefield, but the Premier League could start making themselves looking semi-competent if they announced some dates of when these decisions will be made (see also Man City) rather than keeping everyone in the dark about matters that are so crucial. | |
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| When is the Leicester points deduction decision due? on 15:19 - Aug 11 with 3853 views | SitfcB |
Stupid it wasn’t sorted before the start of the season.
Everton also rumoured to be getting another one. |  |
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| When is the Leicester points deduction decision due? on 15:23 - Aug 11 with 3794 views | ipswichtillidie |
You would think it would be announced before the start of the season given that they broke the rules in their last premier league campaign. But this is the premier league so who knows. I’m personally surprised they are an attracting some of the players they are given the likelyhood of a large points deduction. |  |
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| When is the Leicester points deduction decision due? on 15:49 - Aug 11 with 3598 views | Tractor_Boy333 |
I think it’s outrageous immediately after getting promotion they have to sell their best player to comply with FFP. They exploited the system last season and got away with it. Luckily it didn’t make a difference to us apart from the fact had they been force to follow the rules last season we would probably have gone up as champions.
I know lots of people think FFP is a joke but we complied with the rules and the teams that didn’t have cheated…and that’s how I see it.
But how are Chelsea spending again…they must have found a way to cheat the system too? [Post edited 11 Aug 2024 15:55]
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| When is the Leicester points deduction decision due? on 16:15 - Aug 11 with 3404 views | BloomBlue |
The EPL will be hopeful they can leave it until towards the end of the season with Leicester 6 points safe from relegation and then deduct 5 points. |  | | |
| When is the Leicester points deduction decision due? on 17:27 - Aug 11 with 3186 views | HighgateBlue |
| When is the Leicester points deduction decision due? on 15:49 - Aug 11 by Tractor_Boy333 |
I think it’s outrageous immediately after getting promotion they have to sell their best player to comply with FFP. They exploited the system last season and got away with it. Luckily it didn’t make a difference to us apart from the fact had they been force to follow the rules last season we would probably have gone up as champions.
I know lots of people think FFP is a joke but we complied with the rules and the teams that didn’t have cheated…and that’s how I see it.
But how are Chelsea spending again…they must have found a way to cheat the system too? [Post edited 11 Aug 2024 15:55]
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Leicester have of course been charged by the Premier League in relation to their previous Premier League stint. Assuming they breached the rules, I hope the Premier League throws the book at them. It's ridiculous that the book was not thrown at them as soon as they went down, and swift justice (and punishment if guilty) meted out.
But I'm not sure why they should be charged in relation to last season. On the face of it, they, like ITFC, complied with the rules. The Premier League and the EFL can't, or don't wish to, coordinate their regimes, such that the EFL do not have the power to require adherence to a Premier League imposed business plan. If the EFL want to change their rules, they can. But the rules are how they are. We all know them at the start of the season. Ashton and ITFC will have been looking at the rules and probably going close to the line on some things. That's fine - you look at where the line is and comply.
If we'd failed to get promoted, we would likely have had to sell players in order to ensure that we ourselves were not in breach (because our owners had put money into the club when we were in L1, and that was permissible in L1 because that cash counted towards relevant income, but once we were in the Champ, that same income in the previous period DIDN'T count as relevant income). If we'd had to sell Leif Davis, we'd have done so before our accounting deadline, just as Leicester have. You have to have a reference period - one year, three years, whatever, there has to be a cut off. So I'm not sure it's valid to grumble that a player was sold near the end of the financial year.
If we had had to comply before knowing if we had got promotion or not, we would have had to sell a valuable player before the end of the season and we may not have got promoted.
So my points are twofold really: (i) we say we've complied re last year, and Leicester say they have. Seemingly we are both correct. (ii) if you're saying that the rules should have been different, it's necessary to think about what specific changes would be made. Forcing the books to be balanced by the end of May would cause chaos - the transfer window didn't open until mid June. So open the window year-long? Well, that brings its own problems, but in any event it would mean clubs having to be cautious and have a fire sale before the end of the season, potentially losing their best players for the run-in. That would apply to us like anyone else, and may have crippled us last season. |  | | |
| When is the Leicester points deduction decision due? on 21:39 - Aug 11 with 2715 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| When is the Leicester points deduction decision due? on 15:49 - Aug 11 by Tractor_Boy333 |
I think it’s outrageous immediately after getting promotion they have to sell their best player to comply with FFP. They exploited the system last season and got away with it. Luckily it didn’t make a difference to us apart from the fact had they been force to follow the rules last season we would probably have gone up as champions.
I know lots of people think FFP is a joke but we complied with the rules and the teams that didn’t have cheated…and that’s how I see it.
But how are Chelsea spending again…they must have found a way to cheat the system too? [Post edited 11 Aug 2024 15:55]
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| When is the Leicester points deduction decision due? on 21:51 - Aug 11 with 2655 views | BloomBlue |
| When is the Leicester points deduction decision due? on 15:49 - Aug 11 by Tractor_Boy333 |
I think it’s outrageous immediately after getting promotion they have to sell their best player to comply with FFP. They exploited the system last season and got away with it. Luckily it didn’t make a difference to us apart from the fact had they been force to follow the rules last season we would probably have gone up as champions.
I know lots of people think FFP is a joke but we complied with the rules and the teams that didn’t have cheated…and that’s how I see it.
But how are Chelsea spending again…they must have found a way to cheat the system too? [Post edited 11 Aug 2024 15:55]
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Chelsea buy players and immediately put them on long contracts which allows them to spread the cost against FFP over the same period.
They're also good at selling players at a good price with Kai Havertz's £65m to Arsenal, Mason Mount's £55m to ManU - as examples.
Plus they're now focus on selling their home grown players which is pure profit on FFP.
Also not forgetting Chelsea sold their own hotel to themselves, which didn't break FFP rules and (rumour) helped them fall within the FFP Rules last year. At the moment there is another rumour they did the same with their training ground, ie sold it to themselves. | | | |
| When is the Leicester points deduction decision due? on 09:23 - Aug 12 with 2194 views | NBVJohn |
| When is the Leicester points deduction decision due? on 15:49 - Aug 11 by Tractor_Boy333 |
I think it’s outrageous immediately after getting promotion they have to sell their best player to comply with FFP. They exploited the system last season and got away with it. Luckily it didn’t make a difference to us apart from the fact had they been force to follow the rules last season we would probably have gone up as champions.
I know lots of people think FFP is a joke but we complied with the rules and the teams that didn’t have cheated…and that’s how I see it.
But how are Chelsea spending again…they must have found a way to cheat the system too? [Post edited 11 Aug 2024 15:55]
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My take is that we competed with, and took a team that cheated, right to the final couple of games.
As I live in Leicestershire floating this idea is met generally with different reactions. Numpties who can’t get past the entitlement generated by their (magnificent) league win, pragmatists who are happy to be back in the PL no matter what, and the more thoughtful Leicester fans who see a hollow victory.
It’s fair to say that no one I speak to saw us as a credible threat until Easter. The last minute winner against Southampton was not only a boost to us, but equally it really rattled our rivals.
We went up purely on merit, not by exploiting a series of loopholes. | | | |
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