| Conviction politics. 20:02 - Sep 28 with 2015 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/28/rosie-duffield-resigns-as-labou
“Someone with far-above-average wealth choosing to keep the Conservatives’ two-child limit to benefit payments which entrenches children in poverty, while inexplicably accepting expensive personal gifts of designer suits and glasses costing more than most of these people can grasp –… this is entirely undeserving of holding the title of Labour prime minister,” she wrote in the letter.
Criticising the decision by Starmer to force his MPs to vote against a Commons motion backing the cut to winter fuel payments, she added: “Forcing a vote to make many older people iller and colder while you and your favourite colleagues enjoy free family trips to events most people would have to save hard for – why are you not showing even the slightest bit of embarrassment?” [Post edited 28 Sep 2024 20:05]
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| Conviction politics. on 20:24 - Sep 28 with 1941 views | thebooks |
She’s right on this, of course. Also spot on about Starmer’s poor judgement and political skills. Removing the 2 child limit or retaining the untested winter fuel payment would not send the country into financial meltdown, but the leadership seems hellbent on appearing fiscally “prudent” by being tough on poorer people, which is 1997’s battle.
You also need John McDonnell levels of not-taking-donations if you’re peddling austerity as a Labour PM. Keir Starmer very evidently likes an expensive freebie – arguing it’s all within the rules completely misses the point.
What is interesting is how this also demonstrates how fragile and fractured all political parties are these days. Duffield is very pro-state of Israel and anti-trans rights, so not one of the normal “awkward” squad. |  | | |
| Conviction politics. on 20:26 - Sep 28 with 1919 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Conviction politics. on 20:24 - Sep 28 by thebooks |
She’s right on this, of course. Also spot on about Starmer’s poor judgement and political skills. Removing the 2 child limit or retaining the untested winter fuel payment would not send the country into financial meltdown, but the leadership seems hellbent on appearing fiscally “prudent” by being tough on poorer people, which is 1997’s battle.
You also need John McDonnell levels of not-taking-donations if you’re peddling austerity as a Labour PM. Keir Starmer very evidently likes an expensive freebie – arguing it’s all within the rules completely misses the point.
What is interesting is how this also demonstrates how fragile and fractured all political parties are these days. Duffield is very pro-state of Israel and anti-trans rights, so not one of the normal “awkward” squad. |
So not a butt hurt Corbynite then! | |
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| Conviction politics. on 23:23 - Sep 28 with 1749 views | Churchman |
It’ll be interesting to see what the Labour leadership response is. Silence and tough it out? I know nothing about Rosie Duffield, but will they trash any reputation she might have? The good old stand by - intimidate her into resigning as a MP; the brick through the window?
With the budget coming up soon and a massive majority my guess is they’ll say nothing and let it blow over. |  | | |
| Conviction politics. on 23:56 - Sep 28 with 1720 views | giant_stow |
This also has a lot to do with her previous battles over gender.
Presumably, you side with her there too? [Post edited 29 Sep 2024 0:00]
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| Conviction politics. on 00:18 - Sep 29 with 1646 views | Whos_blue |
I've never really understood why many politicians feel the need to release their resignation letters through the press. It's not as if they don't already have a more than adequate opportunity to have their say. Not withstanding the rights and wrongs Duffield feels she needs to speak out about, these resignation letters always feel a "look at me".
If Duffield is an MP of conviction, good luck to her in continuing to represent her constituents as an Independent.
If/when Labour do manage to turn the deficit around and it is in fact able to demonstrate fiscal control, Duffield will become not much more than a distant post script in history.
If on the other hand the current missteps many are highlighting lead to more MPs resigning, she may go down in history as being the catalyst for consigning Labour to not much more than one hit wonders and out on their ear in 4 years and 9 months.
It would be great to see the tories back, or better still, Reform. Jenrick, Farage, 30p Lee. They'll make it all better I'm sure.
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| Conviction politics. on 00:23 - Sep 29 with 1636 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
So convicted she didn’t vote against the Government on both the 2 child limit and the winter fuel payments. Maybe this makes a bigger splash than voting with your convictions. What a system. |  |
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| Conviction politics. on 08:50 - Sep 29 with 1407 views | Whos_blue |
Wouldn't it be great if we had someone with these convictions in no 10?
BBC News - Not all cultures equally valid, says Kemi Badenoch
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg56zlge8g5o
Edit: Oh dear. Kemi just had a mare on the Kuenssberg show. [Post edited 29 Sep 2024 9:44]
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| Conviction politics. on 10:23 - Sep 29 with 1284 views | Churchman |
| Conviction politics. on 08:50 - Sep 29 by Whos_blue |
Wouldn't it be great if we had someone with these convictions in no 10?
BBC News - Not all cultures equally valid, says Kemi Badenoch
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg56zlge8g5o
Edit: Oh dear. Kemi just had a mare on the Kuenssberg show. [Post edited 29 Sep 2024 9:44]
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It doesn’t matter what Badenoch or the other losers had to say. They’re irrelevant and will be out of power for more than a decade, possibly forever. They’ll be fighting over crumbs for years just as they did last time.
The real interest was in connection with the OP. It is quite clear to me that the Labour Party approach to Rosie Duffield will be ‘isolate and humiliate’. That she wasn’t on message/supportive going back a long time and what she said was nonsense etc.
Who knows the truth of it. Duffield’s interview appeared very much from the heart and what she truly feels, rightly or wrongly. There were some interesting accusations within it.
McFadden basically said that what Starmer and the gang have been up to was perfectly fine and they’d done nothing wrong but they were going to tighten up the rules.
If Sir Kier thinks this is going away, he’s probably right, as long as all out there and there’s nothing left hidden under the rug for those nasty journalists to dig out. | | | |
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| Conviction politics. on 08:39 - Sep 30 with 1102 views | DJR |
One thing that I haven't heard mentioned anywhere is the democratic deficit left by an MP giving up the whip so early in a Parliament.
If I were a Labour Party member, or Labour voter, in Canterbury, I think I would feel pretty miffed.
In addition, a decision taken so early in a Parliament suggests someone whose heart wasn't perhaps really in it when they stood at the recent election. And her complaint that the Labour Party has ignored her constituency is unlikely to be improved by her sitting as an independent.
As it is, I think an MP voluntarily giving up the whip, or switching sides, should stand for re-election, but this is even more the case so so early in the Parliament. |  | | |
| Conviction politics. on 08:50 - Sep 30 with 1064 views | Churchman |
| Conviction politics. on 08:39 - Sep 30 by DJR |
One thing that I haven't heard mentioned anywhere is the democratic deficit left by an MP giving up the whip so early in a Parliament.
If I were a Labour Party member, or Labour voter, in Canterbury, I think I would feel pretty miffed.
In addition, a decision taken so early in a Parliament suggests someone whose heart wasn't perhaps really in it when they stood at the recent election. And her complaint that the Labour Party has ignored her constituency is unlikely to be improved by her sitting as an independent.
As it is, I think an MP voluntarily giving up the whip, or switching sides, should stand for re-election, but this is even more the case so so early in the Parliament. |
People vote for a person for various reasons. Some because the MP has done well for the constituency regardless of party, but I suspect most at a GE vote for a party or to get rid of one. So I agree, there should be a by-election if somebody changes sides or goes independent.
I also think there should be a General Election if a PM steps down. The circus of losers stinking out No 10 since 2014 was ludicrous. | | | |
| Conviction politics. on 11:05 - Sep 30 with 985 views | jontysnut |
| Conviction politics. on 08:39 - Sep 30 by DJR |
One thing that I haven't heard mentioned anywhere is the democratic deficit left by an MP giving up the whip so early in a Parliament.
If I were a Labour Party member, or Labour voter, in Canterbury, I think I would feel pretty miffed.
In addition, a decision taken so early in a Parliament suggests someone whose heart wasn't perhaps really in it when they stood at the recent election. And her complaint that the Labour Party has ignored her constituency is unlikely to be improved by her sitting as an independent.
As it is, I think an MP voluntarily giving up the whip, or switching sides, should stand for re-election, but this is even more the case so so early in the Parliament. |
She also said she had quite a bit of support from traditionally non Labour voters - a case, like the guy on Teesside where people like the candidate more than the party they represent and she's probably got one eye on this as well. |  | | |
| Conviction politics. on 11:11 - Sep 30 with 970 views | MattinLondon |
| Conviction politics. on 00:23 - Sep 29 by WestStanderLaLaLa |
So convicted she didn’t vote against the Government on both the 2 child limit and the winter fuel payments. Maybe this makes a bigger splash than voting with your convictions. What a system. |
Fifteen minutes of fame and all that. |  | | |
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