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Possibly too early to revisit this, but with the Lib Dems and Labour both looking at it [ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y44pekj28o] and with the uncertain political scene shifting quite a lot, just wondered if there's much change on where we were a few months ago?
Same poll linked, original scores until this repost: 19.9% - Strongly Against 08.7% - Against 11.2% - Not Sure 28.6% - In Favour 31.6% - Strongly In Favour
We haven’t moved on since last time imo and the same caveats apply. It could be very handy to help us consolidate several ID sources and potentially allow us to travel, if we could strike a deal with other countries. Or it could be abused if we have an authoritarian government. The scales probably balance in favour of ‘for’, as an authoritarian government wouldn’t need ID cards in order to impose themselves. But in the list of things that need addressing it’s well down the bottom.
How would you feel about a UK Identity Card? on 20:57 - Sep 21 by DJR
I think it is going to take a digital form and be used for things like access to services.
That probably makes it less objectionable than a physical identity card.
Agree. Am resolute in opposing a physical card for a number of reasons, mainly around police abusing their powers to check people on the street.
An electronic one feels far less likely to have the issues that worry me present themselves. Still don't support it, but far less vigorously if that's the right word.
We are tracked by devices in our pockets. We have things like Alexa listening to every word. The surveillance side of a card isn't really that relevant IMO.
How would you feel about a UK Identity Card? on 20:59 - Sep 21 by Swansea_Blue
We haven’t moved on since last time imo and the same caveats apply. It could be very handy to help us consolidate several ID sources and potentially allow us to travel, if we could strike a deal with other countries. Or it could be abused if we have an authoritarian government. The scales probably balance in favour of ‘for’, as an authoritarian government wouldn’t need ID cards in order to impose themselves. But in the list of things that need addressing it’s well down the bottom.
The government appears to view them as a key aspect of their approach in relation to immigration.
How would you feel about a UK Identity Card? on 20:59 - Sep 21 by Swansea_Blue
We haven’t moved on since last time imo and the same caveats apply. It could be very handy to help us consolidate several ID sources and potentially allow us to travel, if we could strike a deal with other countries. Or it could be abused if we have an authoritarian government. The scales probably balance in favour of ‘for’, as an authoritarian government wouldn’t need ID cards in order to impose themselves. But in the list of things that need addressing it’s well down the bottom.
Another issue is the cost. £5bn would do a lot for the NHS and is a far better use of our money than an ID card with little benefits other than giving authoritarian types some red meat to chew on.
The lack of compulsory ID makes the UK relatively attractive for people who want or need to work illegally. And our relationship with France, in particular, is impacted because they see this as UK not being serious about identifying irregulars. They have a point.
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