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15:03? 14:08 - Nov 15 with 1288 viewsTangledupin_Blue

Does anyone know why the National League fixtures for today are all scheduled to kick off at 15:03? (Rather than at 3pm)

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15:03? on 14:10 - Nov 15 with 1287 viewsgainsboroughblue

It's to do with a campaign to allow three clubs to get promoted from the Nat League into the football league.

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15:03? on 14:14 - Nov 15 with 1251 viewsPerublue

The rather embarrassing name called the 3 up campaign … sounds like something from my 80’s school days.

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15:03? on 14:17 - Nov 15 with 1235 viewsZx1988

15:03? on 14:10 - Nov 15 by gainsboroughblue

It's to do with a campaign to allow three clubs to get promoted from the Nat League into the football league.


I completely agree with their stance here, but wonder just how many of the clubs will continue trumpeting the cause should they get promoted to the Football League.

The whole thing needs standardising, ideally. The four-up-four-down setup for L2 just seems out of place and, one assumes, is a hangover from the old D3 North/South days?

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15:03? on 14:49 - Nov 15 with 1114 viewsTangledupin_Blue

15:03? on 14:10 - Nov 15 by gainsboroughblue

It's to do with a campaign to allow three clubs to get promoted from the Nat League into the football league.


Aaah... thanks ☺

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15:03? on 14:51 - Nov 15 with 1105 viewsgainsboroughblue

15:03? on 14:17 - Nov 15 by Zx1988

I completely agree with their stance here, but wonder just how many of the clubs will continue trumpeting the cause should they get promoted to the Football League.

The whole thing needs standardising, ideally. The four-up-four-down setup for L2 just seems out of place and, one assumes, is a hangover from the old D3 North/South days?


I think it is and they had the opportunity really, to amend that in 1995 when the structure was amended to allow the Premier League to reduce to 20 teams, allowing a clean 24-24-24 spread across the football league.
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(No subject) (n/t) on 14:52 - Nov 15 with 1095 viewsTangledupin_Blue

15:03? on 14:17 - Nov 15 by Zx1988

I completely agree with their stance here, but wonder just how many of the clubs will continue trumpeting the cause should they get promoted to the Football League.

The whole thing needs standardising, ideally. The four-up-four-down setup for L2 just seems out of place and, one assumes, is a hangover from the old D3 North/South days?


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15:03? on 14:54 - Nov 15 with 1082 viewsTangledupin_Blue

15:03? on 14:17 - Nov 15 by Zx1988

I completely agree with their stance here, but wonder just how many of the clubs will continue trumpeting the cause should they get promoted to the Football League.

The whole thing needs standardising, ideally. The four-up-four-down setup for L2 just seems out of place and, one assumes, is a hangover from the old D3 North/South days?


Am not so sure...

Wasn't it the case that only the D3N and D3S champions were promoted and only the bottom two from D2 were relegated?
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15:03? on 14:57 - Nov 15 with 1048 viewsZx1988

15:03? on 14:51 - Nov 15 by gainsboroughblue

I think it is and they had the opportunity really, to amend that in 1995 when the structure was amended to allow the Premier League to reduce to 20 teams, allowing a clean 24-24-24 spread across the football league.
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I can't think of a way to make it work, but it would be interesting to have an uneven system such as three-up-four-down.

Utterly unworkable, but something like that might serve to make the PL more competitive, with at least one established team being guaranteed relegation each season.

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15:03? on 15:00 - Nov 15 with 1021 viewsgainsboroughblue

15:03? on 14:57 - Nov 15 by Zx1988

I can't think of a way to make it work, but it would be interesting to have an uneven system such as three-up-four-down.

Utterly unworkable, but something like that might serve to make the PL more competitive, with at least one established team being guaranteed relegation each season.


Good luck getting that voted on!

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15:03? on 15:14 - Nov 15 with 983 viewsZx1988

15:03? on 15:00 - Nov 15 by gainsboroughblue

Good luck getting that voted on!


Indeed!

Utterly unworkable anyway, as there's not the movement out of the top end of the PL to rectify the bottom-end imbalance.

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15:03? on 20:23 - Nov 15 with 740 viewsford6600

Used to be only one up one down from non-league to league. Now 3 up and down would be good but ideally 4 up and down. Gives more chance/incentive for non-league teams to make jump into Division 2 and gives relegated league teams better chance of regaining league status. A win win situation. Providing more competition and less stagnation...My non-league side Boreham Wood with crowds of 1k might finally become a league team if only for a season or two!
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15:03? on 20:35 - Nov 15 with 702 viewsNthsuffolkblue

15:03? on 14:57 - Nov 15 by Zx1988

I can't think of a way to make it work, but it would be interesting to have an uneven system such as three-up-four-down.

Utterly unworkable, but something like that might serve to make the PL more competitive, with at least one established team being guaranteed relegation each season.


You could have a play-off system where the 4th bottom team is involved against the winners out of 4th-6th in the division below. Which isn't quite your suggestion but would be closer to it and would allow all 3 of the top teams to be promoted on merit.

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