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Office Outlet and Gym Set For February Demolition
Friday, 23rd Dec 2022 11:45

The Office Outlet and Better Gym building on the land Town purchased just over a year ago could be demolished in February ahead of work to install new turnstiles behind the Sir Alf Ramsey Stand.

The Blues have approached Ipswich Borough Council asking whether they require full planning permission in order to carry out the demolition with planning officers assessing the matter. Town have pencilled in February for the demolition.

“Fans will probably see in the next week or so that we will formally announce that we will knock down what is the old Staples [more recently Office Outlet] building and the old gym building that we acquired,” CEO Mark Ashton told iFollow Ipswich last month.

“We bought them around a year ago and we knew what we were buying. We knew that in essence we were buying two brick buildings with tin roofs but under further investigation to convert those into safe fan-led facilities or other usable spaces, we’re going to have to invest substantial money in airflow, health and safety bringing them up to standard.

“The reality is that it’s much more cost effective to knock them down. I think we will car park it in the short to medium term while we work with our owners to look at the set-up and further development of the stadium, but fans will see that coming out in the next few weeks.

“What that does is open up the access and egress to that South Stand, so we can put the turnstiles into the rear of that stand, look at a much better flow for fans getting them in and out of the stadium. It’s more work at Portman Road but it’s important that we build on it.”


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Bazza8564 added 12:25 - Dec 23
Good, lets get that area cleared and start thinking about acquiring the land all the way around the ground so we can start some serious development.

MA has hinted strongly, (but its much more than that), that the Borough Council are keen for us to pick up the whole footprint around PR, the area behind the Coboold stand and North Stand and the land that houses the ground itself, none of which is ours yet.

Once we've done that, then the world is our oyster with options, the very minimum that would include would be a huge plaza all the way around the stadium that would make our current Fanzone look like a corner shop.

Bring it on, lets get these boys up a division and see just what this fabulous board and investors can unlock!

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GatesPerm added 12:43 - Dec 23
For me, the Council owning the ground is a huge positive.

At some point the current owners will sell and It protects the club from future lunatic owners selling the ground for development.

I am pretty sure that Evans tried to buy the ground but the council refused to sell. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out what his plans were.
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tivo added 14:58 - Dec 23
Would love for a certain gorgoeus-ginge to purchase the land the ground sits on from the Council and place it into a supporters trust.
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Bazza8564 added 16:45 - Dec 23
Ok so interesting comment from GatesPerm. I disagree but i get where you are coming from. Ill explain.

I know for a fact** that the council asked the club in March (the day after we completed on the office Outlet bit) when they could talk to us about buying the whole lot. They want rid of it because it could never be useful to them with a long lease as a FC.

HOWEVER, dont forget selling it to the right people comes with a huge degree of control, because the Borough Council would still have the rights of planning permission of any change of use, redevelopment etc etc, so although the theory of what GatesPerm says is spot on, in practice, to the right bidders, its a totally risk free proposition to them.

SO this is when it gets interesting, taking this a stage further, and assuming the club does want to buy the land, it has the advantage of waiting for a combination of the right price and the pre-negotiated rights for appropriate planning before striking a deal. Its a brilliant and unique position, where the seller is so keen and the buyer can afford to wait for exactly the right deal. Its a perfect recipe for the club.

Im pretty convinced that this summer latest it will be done, especially if we go up, and with it a raft of plans will unfold for 24-30 to transform it.

** Please message me through the portal and Ill explain, dont want to openly say how i came upon this.
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churchmans added 16:55 - Dec 23
bazza8564

Great info
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atty added 17:04 - Dec 23
Interesting. Await developments. Re the area generally did l read somewhere that the car park opposite the Cobbold Stand is going to be where the new aqua park is being built?
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Bazza8564 added 18:02 - Dec 23
Atty, pretty sure that's where the hub of the new Fanzone will end up, if you actually envisage the whole thing from above, it would give us everything bar the Archant building and the council buildings but access all the way around in a circle with access pretty much 360.And pretty big.

Now i've no real ideal how the details would pan out, but if you play this out on your head (some of us have sleep issues :) ) think about the Cobbold stand going back over the road, you could keep a car park there by putting a one story concrete level above it and there is your new Fanzone, arcing around behind SAR across the road no longer in use, and the same at the north stand end

NOW, Im getting into make believe land here for sure but there are absolutely limitless possibilities in this. Football clubs are generally landlocked, we wouldn't be. Some fans will remember how Old Trafford used to be hemmed in by industrial buildings, Anfield by houses. We would have a huge area.

MASSIVELY interesting times, I think we just wait and see but if you've met or listened to Mark Ashton at length, he is without doubt one of the sharpest tools in the box, hes 51 and this is THE job for him. He plays his cards close to his chest and he delivers first talks later, but if this sort of stuff is playing on our minds imagine what this guy is thinking, and why Oxford, WBA, bristol City were just rungs on the ladder to what he once told me was "the biggest opportunity in football".

So when people talk about silly things and get them out of perspective, just remember what we COULD do in that space....
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MyBlueHeaven added 15:12 - Dec 24
Sorry, Bazza, but this ain't THE job for Ashton. It's the job on the way to THE job.
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Bazza8564 added 09:36 - Dec 25
MyBlueHeaven, hope you are wrong mate, only time will tell i guess.

From my time in industry pretty much the oldest CEO age for appointment is the age MA is now and i reckon its going to take him 5 years absolute minimum from here to het us to PL and get the Gamechanger investors out with a great return. By then, he will be 56/57 and thats a tough age to take on another project.

To be honest his real passion is turning around sleeping giants, hes not "done it" yet, not big time anyway, and I genuinely think he sees this job as a chance to make his personal mark on teh club and walk away in 10 years with a legacy.

God I hope we have him that long, ill pay for the statue myself if we do :)
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