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The worst thing we can do now is sack Hurst
at 10:11 3 Oct 2018

Okay there were obviously times in his 6 years as manager where we played some good stuff, you've selected the best footballing performance in all 6 years. Yet here we all are judging Hurst after 10 games and requesting he be sacked.

I agree half a season of being better than average is a long way off at the minute but I just think we have to give the guy time. Over reacting for a small period of (potential) short term gain isn't the way to move forward.
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The worst thing we can do now is sack Hurst
at 09:50 3 Oct 2018

I agree that's in an incredibly optimistic outlook and one that in time may look stupid.

Isn't your criticism of Hurst basically what McCarthy did every game even following Murphy's departure. Aimless long balls to a front two were not aerial specialists. At least Hurst saw that at half time, changed it and in the second half we were leaps and bounds better. With Mick we never even tried to play football.
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The worst thing we can do now is sack Hurst
at 09:21 3 Oct 2018

From surfing the forum, there is obviously a huge amount of discontent and I understand it, its a results game but watching the games and watching the football, I just cannot come to the conclusion that the best idea would be to sack him.

For the past 10 years I've sat through the Roy Keane debacle, ingested the s**t Football Paul Jewell served up and countless 35 year-old loan players, watched on longingly as Mick McCarthy set us up for another 90 minutes of turgid long ball football with the intention of stealing a point from the opposition.

The point is the football were playing is not terrible, were just a team devoid of confidence. I would rather watch last nights performance or Saturdays performance again then any game played under Mick from October onwards. We created opportunities, several great balls across the box, Rudolph saved well from Chalobah, Sears looked bright. Jackson looked great on Saturday, Nolan had glimpses but you simply cant cater for the mistakes we make. Last night Chambers literally gave the ball to Downing, what can Hurst do?! The team makes a dreadful attempt to press properly and then cant pressure the ball. Yes you can say that's Hurst fault for not practising it properly but these are grown men, paid to play football. Its no use saying the recruitment isn't good enough etc etc a full team press is a staple of every single team in every league. It's just lapses in concentration at key times.

The point is that this team will come good and this manager will come good. As with every manager though we have to give them time to adjust and change a culture.

I know a few will disagree but this is no where near the depths we reached under Keane, under Jewell and under McCarthy.

If we sack him we will end up with another 'experienced' manager like Megson/ Holloway who get a few quick points and in 2 years time we will be at the same cross roads we were in the summer. This is the change we asked for so lets be patient.We know Evans will give him time so lets get behind the lads again and pray that our first win comes on Saturday!

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Has Marcus Evans invested new money?
at 14:50 10 Aug 2018

I know a lot of people have quoted this 1m figure for Ben Knight as being part of the incoming's this year and placing it against our spend.

There's very little chance (most likely none at all) that would be invested in the first team squad. As with most clubs, fees received for academy players are put back into the academy whether that be buying players from Cat 3/ Cat 2 clubs or bettering facilities
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Marcus Maddison??
at 12:34 10 Aug 2018

Given the stupidly late nature of the bid, you would assume it was someone attempting to replace though?

If Derby really wanted him they could have got him with the Vydra money on a permanent in the last few days? The loan with a permanent in Jan makes it seem like the club didn't have the funds to do a permanent deal then and there so wait until Jan?
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Marcus Maddison??
at 12:31 10 Aug 2018

Windass is also fairly well known as a bit of a tool up North I believe!
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Marcus Maddison??
at 10:21 10 Aug 2018

Interesting the Darragh MacAnthony said a champ club came in with a substantial late loan bid for Maddison with option to buy in Jan?

Any potential it could be us given the late nature of Garner's deal? Could play along any of PH's attacking midfield three...

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Anyone know why there were two midweek fixtures yesterday ?
at 17:14 8 Aug 2018

Most likely Sky wanted to fill some of this week before the Prem starts?
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Annual テつ」5 transfer budget....
at 09:25 8 Aug 2018

It's very sustainable from a financial point of view and I'm all for that. The questions is how sustainable is it from a competitive point of view?

How long can we compete at this level utilising a buy with what you can sell strategy? I take the Burnley example but it was more of a level playing field back then. This year their are probably 8/9 sides who would happily spend 5mil on a player (Boro, Leeds, Derby, Swansea, Forest, Bristol, West Brom, Stoke, Shef United) without selling.

That's only going to continue with more investors coming in and further parachute payments.
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Annual テつ」5 transfer budget....
at 00:10 8 Aug 2018

Of course he docent have that in cash, that figure was more for effect. But genuinely, how long do you thing this strategy Is sustainable?

I'm all for whats going on this summer and am very excited by our new additions! Just intrigued to see how the strategy will involve as it will be harder and harder to be competitive.
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Annual テつ」5 transfer budget....
at 23:19 7 Aug 2018

I have no problem with Waggy leaving and I also have no problem with Evans, I would rather PH get 3/4 players of his ilk than have just Waghorn at his disposal. But with our league being pumped with more money year on year how long can we honestly go on without attempting to build on our squad in the transfer market?

Im not calling to buy championship/ prem journeyman because as were experiencing, even the lower league boys aren't cheap.

We have several young promising players who could command big transfer fees in the years to come but how will we ever move forward or even stay consistent if we have to continually sell our best assets to attempt to build a better squad?

This strategy will have to evolve in the next few years as it simply won't be possible to stay competitive without spending on top of what you've got.

Food for thought for the man with テつ」765 million in his back pocket.....
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Nolan and Nsiala songs
at 15:53 6 Aug 2018

Ohh Jonny Nolan you are the love of my life, Oh Jonny Nolan I'll let you **** my wife , Ohh Jonny Nolan I want your ginger hair too!
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Needing at least one more
at 12:09 6 Aug 2018

You would assume so, especially as PH was disgruntled that he played on Saturday for them.
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Derby FFP
at 11:17 6 Aug 2018

Anyone else hoping Derby get a FFP walloping at the end of the year after they've finished 10th and had to pay a テつ」5 mil severance for sacking Lampard after 5 months?

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Accrington Chairman/ Jackson
at 12:31 3 Aug 2018

Ohh fair enough... didn't realise there was an optional 12 months.
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Accrington Chairman/ Jackson
at 11:57 3 Aug 2018

So Stanley rejected 1.5/ 1.75 million for a player in the last year of his deal when they will get half in January and nothing in the summer. Chairman says someone is going to pay his valuation but when?!

They get about 1.3 mil in payments regardless of where the finish in League 1 so keeping him to try and push on is fairly irrelevant and TV money is almost no existent unless your Sunderland in League 1 this year.

I don't understand how this makes any financial sense for them.... just holding back a promising player for the sake of appeasing a fan base?
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Centre Back
at 09:45 2 Aug 2018

I really hope were still after both Tilt and Nsiala, If Chambo gets injured at all I hate the thought of either of Spence or Knudsen going into a two. You just cant have part time CB's in the championship... both fairly shaky there at times...

If presumably Donacien has been signed as a starting fullback going off what PH said recently we still really need two out and out CB's
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Winger/ Left Back still needed?
at 22:45 1 Aug 2018

He was rampant for Shrewsbury when he played for them in 15/16.... who's the def info??!
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Winger/ Left Back still needed?
at 19:50 1 Aug 2018

Can't help but feel that we need another winger and a left back should Knudsen leave. Especially given PH stated that wingers were a priority early on?

I guess he could rotate Rowe/ Ward/ Sears/ Roberts but feel like there could definitely be another coming in to nail down that position...
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Ipswich Owner vs Derby Owner
at 10:14 25 Jul 2018

Anyone know how Derby consistently fund their ridiculous annual spending with parachute payments?

Just had a look and their owner is テつ」265 million poorer than Evans....
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