| 5 game ban for Mings 16:32 - Mar 8 with 4354 views | itfcjoe |
Ridiculous really as no real way of knowing the intent in that.
But the FA just kowtow to likes of Rooney and Man U who come out to deflect away from Zlatan's which was clearly deliberate.
It looked naughty from Mings, but how that can be 5 games and deemed definitely deliberate is beyond me |  |
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| 5 game ban for Mings on 16:37 - Mar 8 with 2831 views | GlasgowBlue |
I think the general consensus from those who have played or managed in the game was it was very very naughty. |  |
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| 5 game ban for Mings on 16:38 - Mar 8 with 2813 views | PrideOfTheEast |
Is it more than 3 because he didn’t immediately accept it?
Daft move not to accept because the FA were never going to find in his favour for the reasons you noted. |  | | |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 16:40 - Mar 8 with 2802 views | Radlett_blue |
Only Mings really knows how deliberate his action was. The FA tend to judge this by deciding "if it was a team mate, would you have avoided him". Hard to see what else they can do in the circumstances. Understandably, stamping on someone's head is seen as a pretty serious offence. |  |
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| 5 game ban for Mings on 16:41 - Mar 8 with 2798 views | Bad_Boy_Mark |
I feel this is very harsh, IMHO this clash was unintentional and Mings should not have received any ban. |  | | |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 16:41 - Mar 8 with 2786 views | strikalite |
Imo deliberate, the little look as he set off to leap over him for me was guilty and if it wasn't meant then surely you would turn in shock having felt the sole of your boot on an opposing players head and put your hand up to apologize or something, no? |  | | |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 16:41 - Mar 8 with 2785 views | SWGF |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 16:38 - Mar 8 by PrideOfTheEast |
Is it more than 3 because he didn’t immediately accept it?
Daft move not to accept because the FA were never going to find in his favour for the reasons you noted. |
No. The FA said in their initial report that the ban would be more than 3 matches. |  |
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| 5 game ban for Mings on 16:43 - Mar 8 with 2763 views | SWGF |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 16:40 - Mar 8 by Radlett_blue |
Only Mings really knows how deliberate his action was. The FA tend to judge this by deciding "if it was a team mate, would you have avoided him". Hard to see what else they can do in the circumstances. Understandably, stamping on someone's head is seen as a pretty serious offence. |
I can't believe that had he DESPERATELY wanted to avoid his head, he couldn't have.
Having been thrown to the floor by ZI earlier on, he probably didn't try too hard to find an alternative route. | |
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| 5 game ban for Mings on 16:44 - Mar 8 with 2744 views | Benters |
w@nkers |  |
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| 5 game ban for Mings on 16:48 - Mar 8 with 2718 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 16:41 - Mar 8 by strikalite |
Imo deliberate, the little look as he set off to leap over him for me was guilty and if it wasn't meant then surely you would turn in shock having felt the sole of your boot on an opposing players head and put your hand up to apologize or something, no? |
Agree with you
Absolutely believe it was deliberate |  |
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| 5 game ban for Mings on 16:52 - Mar 8 with 2676 views | Illinoisblue |
5 games is OTT. Still, more time to design kitchens or whatever it is he promotes on twitter. |  |
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| 5 game ban for Mings on 17:02 - Mar 8 with 2623 views | Yaffle |
I've watched the footage more than a few times and I don't believe it was intentional by Mings. I think he looked to ZI briefly and then his focus was on the movement of the ball and the direction of play, which he followed, attempting to leap over him as he went.
I think the zoomed camera angle removes the context of the flow/direction of the play which doesn't help.
ZI by contrast, was a deliberate assault which if it occurred outside a nightclub would be ABH at least. |  | | |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 17:06 - Mar 8 with 2597 views | GeoffSentence |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 16:43 - Mar 8 by SWGF |
I can't believe that had he DESPERATELY wanted to avoid his head, he couldn't have.
Having been thrown to the floor by ZI earlier on, he probably didn't try too hard to find an alternative route. |
Anyone who has kids and dogs will know just how easy it is to stumble when trying to clear a mass of moving bodies on the floor.
The times I have trodden on a child or dog because one of them has moved when I have been stepping over them.
Rooney didn't just move, he made contact with Mings as he was rising and Mings was jumping, it is no wonder to me that Mings made contact with Zlatan. |  |
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| 5 game ban for Mings on 17:12 - Mar 8 with 2560 views | SWGF |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 17:06 - Mar 8 by GeoffSentence |
Anyone who has kids and dogs will know just how easy it is to stumble when trying to clear a mass of moving bodies on the floor.
The times I have trodden on a child or dog because one of them has moved when I have been stepping over them.
Rooney didn't just move, he made contact with Mings as he was rising and Mings was jumping, it is no wonder to me that Mings made contact with Zlatan. |
I've got kids. I haven't trodden on their heads yet. If they were on the floor and I wanted to avoid them, I reckon I could (and I'm a cumbersome old idiot, not a lithe, athletic sportsman). | |
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| 5 game ban for Mings on 17:18 - Mar 8 with 2531 views | Radlett_blue |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 17:02 - Mar 8 by Yaffle |
I've watched the footage more than a few times and I don't believe it was intentional by Mings. I think he looked to ZI briefly and then his focus was on the movement of the ball and the direction of play, which he followed, attempting to leap over him as he went.
I think the zoomed camera angle removes the context of the flow/direction of the play which doesn't help.
ZI by contrast, was a deliberate assault which if it occurred outside a nightclub would be ABH at least. |
I guess there should be a certain amount of mitigation given that the person he elbowed was someone who had stamped on his head 30 seconds before? | |
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| 5 game ban for Mings on 17:43 - Mar 8 with 2450 views | ClausThomsen |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 16:43 - Mar 8 by SWGF |
I can't believe that had he DESPERATELY wanted to avoid his head, he couldn't have.
Having been thrown to the floor by ZI earlier on, he probably didn't try too hard to find an alternative route. |
He's just tackled Rooney, he's in the midst of defending - no way is he aiming his studs on a players head. I can't remember any player being accused of stamping on a player's head deliberately.
What a ridiculous ban. And Zlatan only gets 3.
The FA are a bunch of clowns. | | | |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 17:49 - Mar 8 with 2410 views | ClausThomsen |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 17:12 - Mar 8 by SWGF |
I've got kids. I haven't trodden on their heads yet. If they were on the floor and I wanted to avoid them, I reckon I could (and I'm a cumbersome old idiot, not a lithe, athletic sportsman). |
But you're not defending a dangerous passage of play against Man United with your kids.
He stood on his ridiculous ponyball thing, by accident. | | | |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 17:50 - Mar 8 with 2394 views | ClausThomsen |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 17:02 - Mar 8 by Yaffle |
I've watched the footage more than a few times and I don't believe it was intentional by Mings. I think he looked to ZI briefly and then his focus was on the movement of the ball and the direction of play, which he followed, attempting to leap over him as he went.
I think the zoomed camera angle removes the context of the flow/direction of the play which doesn't help.
ZI by contrast, was a deliberate assault which if it occurred outside a nightclub would be ABH at least. |
Absolutely right, down-arrowed in error. | | | |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 17:59 - Mar 8 with 2371 views | Vaughan8 |
I was listening to talk sport the other day and some expert person said "intent" doesn't come into it. | | | |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 18:07 - Mar 8 with 2350 views | sparks |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 17:59 - Mar 8 by Vaughan8 |
I was listening to talk sport the other day and some expert person said "intent" doesn't come into it. |
If it were the other way round, one suspect the result would also have been reversed. A Man Utd player wouldnt have got 5 matches for that- theyd have given him the benefit of the doubt. |  |
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| 5 game ban for Mings on 18:11 - Mar 8 with 2330 views | monty_radio |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 16:37 - Mar 8 by GlasgowBlue |
I think the general consensus from those who have played or managed in the game was it was very very naughty. |
Though Danny Murphy, having watched it over, said he thought it wasn't deliberate. | |
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| 5 game ban for Mings on 18:24 - Mar 8 with 2289 views | bournemouthblue |
The angle repeated on the TV makes it look bad
The angle more inline with Mings run shows the foot going along the side of his head and not on the top as it appears from the other angle |  |
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| 5 game ban for Mings on 18:33 - Mar 8 with 2254 views | strikalite |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 18:24 - Mar 8 by bournemouthblue |
The angle repeated on the TV makes it look bad
The angle more inline with Mings run shows the foot going along the side of his head and not on the top as it appears from the other angle |
Did you see the crafty little slide down Mings leg by Ibra before he went to ground which lead to Mings getting up stepping on Ibra? | | | |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 18:37 - Mar 8 with 2235 views | oldbluestu |
3 game ban if he was white I bet |  | | |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 19:11 - Mar 8 with 2171 views | yorkshireblue |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 17:02 - Mar 8 by Yaffle |
I've watched the footage more than a few times and I don't believe it was intentional by Mings. I think he looked to ZI briefly and then his focus was on the movement of the ball and the direction of play, which he followed, attempting to leap over him as he went.
I think the zoomed camera angle removes the context of the flow/direction of the play which doesn't help.
ZI by contrast, was a deliberate assault which if it occurred outside a nightclub would be ABH at least. |
No idea how true it is, but a discussion on the radio said that the only law which states 'intent' is handball. Anything else is judged on the action itself.
So by the letter of the law, it doesn't matter if he meant to do it or not. |  | | |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 19:23 - Mar 8 with 2129 views | Suffolktractor |
| 5 game ban for Mings on 18:33 - Mar 8 by strikalite |
Did you see the crafty little slide down Mings leg by Ibra before he went to ground which lead to Mings getting up stepping on Ibra? |
Yes I saw that, so should the FA add another 3 matches to ZI 's ban? Oh no, silly me, he plays for one of the beautiful big clubs. Mings fault for getting in the way. | | | |
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