| Many Clouds 14:37 - Jan 28 with 9200 views | Johnhoz |
I'm not a huge racing fan, but that is so sad after such an amzing finish. Poor thing collapsed and died just after the finish
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| Many Clouds on 15:06 - Jan 28 with 2324 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Many Clouds on 15:01 - Jan 28 by RoyKeanesDog |
I don't plan to go to those lengths, but I might read up on it.
I just don't understand why people would make ManyClouds race again if he had previously shown health implications whilst racing. |
It's also worth noting that they like racing AGAINST each other.
Holding on to horses is the hard part.
It's a rarity but if a horse decides he doesn't want to race, he doesn't. He just stands still and digs his hoofs in. Occasionally horses get so tired in racing that they slow themselves down and pull up. Many Clouds would've been desperate to stay ahead of Thistlecrack and kept coming back for more. He clearly was a brave and happy horse who loved racing.
A grand national winner. |  |
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| Many Clouds on 15:08 - Jan 28 with 2315 views | Ryorry |
| Many Clouds on 15:04 - Jan 28 by RoyKeanesDog |
Fair enough, I'll drop it and do some independent research, didn't mean to upset anybody.
R.I.P ManyClouds |
That's good, but please be aware you're likely to come across some pretty skewed and extreme stuff from the organisation known as PETA if you google. They're well known animal rights propagandists for whom 'fact' and 'truth' are very dirty words. |  |
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| Many Clouds on 15:11 - Jan 28 with 2304 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Many Clouds on 15:08 - Jan 28 by Ryorry |
That's good, but please be aware you're likely to come across some pretty skewed and extreme stuff from the organisation known as PETA if you google. They're well known animal rights propagandists for whom 'fact' and 'truth' are very dirty words. |
I agree
I've had people bringing stuff on greyhound racing from there to me before that is a disgrace that it's even allowed to be published.
Lies lies and more lies | |
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| Many Clouds on 15:11 - Jan 28 with 2302 views | poppiesman |
Very cruel sport, probably only allowed due to it being a rich mans pastime.
For every horse that dies, they should kill the owner, trainer and jockey too! |  | | |
| Many Clouds on 15:12 - Jan 28 with 2289 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Many Clouds on 15:11 - Jan 28 by poppiesman |
Very cruel sport, probably only allowed due to it being a rich mans pastime.
For every horse that dies, they should kill the owner, trainer and jockey too! |
Please leave this thread.
Please | |
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| Many Clouds on 15:15 - Jan 28 with 2273 views | BlueNote |
'poor thing'
It wasn't a 'thing' It was an animal that suffered a cruel death for the purposes of so called entertainment.
Anyone who doesn't believe the horse racing and greyhound industry is cruel is deluded. |  | | |
| Many Clouds on 15:18 - Jan 28 with 2263 views | taximan |
| Many Clouds on 15:15 - Jan 28 by BlueNote |
'poor thing'
It wasn't a 'thing' It was an animal that suffered a cruel death for the purposes of so called entertainment.
Anyone who doesn't believe the horse racing and greyhound industry is cruel is deluded. |
do yourself a favour and shut the fck up | | | |
| Many Clouds on 15:18 - Jan 28 with 2267 views | Ryorry |
| Many Clouds on 15:11 - Jan 28 by poppiesman |
Very cruel sport, probably only allowed due to it being a rich mans pastime.
For every horse that dies, they should kill the owner, trainer and jockey too! |
Well if you count £50 a month to have a 1% share as part of an owner's syndicate, I suppose that makes me a "rich" "man??!" lol. People spend more on Sky etc TV contracts.
Probably best not to display your ignorance in quite such a neon blaze ... | |
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| Many Clouds on 15:21 - Jan 28 with 2259 views | Ryorry |
| Many Clouds on 15:15 - Jan 28 by BlueNote |
'poor thing'
It wasn't a 'thing' It was an animal that suffered a cruel death for the purposes of so called entertainment.
Anyone who doesn't believe the horse racing and greyhound industry is cruel is deluded. |
Suggest you go and focus on rescuing the tens of thousands of neglected and deliberately abused animals that end up in shelters every year; and/or support thse shelters, instead of wasting your energy on pampered racehorses. | |
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| Many Clouds on 15:56 - Jan 28 with 2217 views | MJallday |
| Many Clouds on 14:46 - Jan 28 by RoyKeanesDog |
I don't like horses dropping dead for our entertainment.
I'm not saying the sport should be banned as I don't know enough about the general care towards the horses. I can't make my mind up if I'm honest. |
i dont think i have an issue with horses racing round. they seem to enjoy it
however the fact they get whipped bothers the hell out of me. its abuse - plain and simple
(i know theres a lot less of it these days and its regulated etc - but it still occurs and its very very wrong) |  |
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| Many Clouds on 16:03 - Jan 28 with 2207 views | BlueNote |
| Many Clouds on 15:18 - Jan 28 by taximan |
do yourself a favour and shut the fck up |
Just putting a point of view across you stupid c*nt | | | |
| Many Clouds on 16:11 - Jan 28 with 2197 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Many Clouds on 15:56 - Jan 28 by MJallday |
i dont think i have an issue with horses racing round. they seem to enjoy it
however the fact they get whipped bothers the hell out of me. its abuse - plain and simple
(i know theres a lot less of it these days and its regulated etc - but it still occurs and its very very wrong) |
Have a feel of a racing whip bud if you ever get the opportunity
They don't feel like they look. That's why horses don't get injured from a whip | |
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| Many Clouds on 18:24 - Jan 28 with 2147 views | strikalite |
R.I.P. to a fantastic horse...
These race horses are the incredibly lucky ones believe me....treated really well and in fantastic condition and run because they simply love it...
If they didn't love it they wouldn't be racehorses! |  | | |
| Many Clouds on 20:34 - Jan 28 with 2098 views | taximan |
| Many Clouds on 16:03 - Jan 28 by BlueNote |
Just putting a point of view across you stupid c*nt |
well what do we have here ?
a hero behind a keyboard | | | |
| Many Clouds on 23:38 - Jan 28 with 2056 views | Ryorry |
| Many Clouds on 15:56 - Jan 28 by MJallday |
i dont think i have an issue with horses racing round. they seem to enjoy it
however the fact they get whipped bothers the hell out of me. its abuse - plain and simple
(i know theres a lot less of it these days and its regulated etc - but it still occurs and its very very wrong) |
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2011/oct/18/jockeys-whip-didnt-hurt
"But Crowley is right. He hit me three times in quick succession on the palm of the hand yesterday afternoon, the third time "as hard as I'd ever hit a horse" and, thanks to the design of his lightweight, foam-cushioned whip, I scarcely felt a thing." (Guardian journalist Greg Wood). | |
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| Many Clouds on 00:57 - Jan 29 with 2026 views | BlueNote |
| Many Clouds on 20:34 - Jan 28 by taximan |
well what do we have here ?
a hero behind a keyboard |
No, someone making a valid point, You took it down to the level of abuse.
The racing industry is cruel. Race horses sold as meat on the continent once they are no longer of any use says it all
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| Many Clouds on 01:05 - Jan 29 with 2016 views | RoyKeanesDog |
| Many Clouds on 00:57 - Jan 29 by BlueNote |
No, someone making a valid point, You took it down to the level of abuse.
The racing industry is cruel. Race horses sold as meat on the continent once they are no longer of any use says it all
#youbettheydie |
I have to admit I am edging towards the 'horse racing is cruel' is camp.
I do think that the posters who are defending it genuinely believe that it isn't, and their hearts in the right place, but for me I think it is cruel. |  |
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| Many Clouds on 01:34 - Jan 29 with 2007 views | BlueNote |
| Many Clouds on 01:05 - Jan 29 by RoyKeanesDog |
I have to admit I am edging towards the 'horse racing is cruel' is camp.
I do think that the posters who are defending it genuinely believe that it isn't, and their hearts in the right place, but for me I think it is cruel. |
I think some posters either don't realise the suffering that takes place or they choose to ignore it. I have no agenda other than the truth. If people are upset by it, then that's a good thing.
Animals are being exploited in horse racing, greyhound racing, equestrian events etc, and that is a fact. There might be some well meaning people involved, but there are plenty of people who couldn't give a sh1t. | | | |
| Many Clouds on 04:05 - Jan 29 with 1987 views | jeera |
| Many Clouds on 20:34 - Jan 28 by taximan |
well what do we have here ?
a hero behind a keyboard |
You want to bully people into silence instead? |  |
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| Many Clouds on 04:08 - Jan 29 with 1985 views | jeera |
| Many Clouds on 15:02 - Jan 28 by Ryorry |
"They are bred for our own entertainment, no?"
So are cats, dogs and horses/ponies not in racing - see my post above. [Post edited 28 Jan 2017 15:09]
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Ridiculous comparison and not credible in any way.
You and your fellow racing fans get protective immediately every time the subject arises.
Others are entitled to their views.
You like the sport. Some don't. | |
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| Many Clouds on 04:10 - Jan 29 with 1976 views | jeera |
| Many Clouds on 15:12 - Jan 28 by The_Romford_Blue |
Please leave this thread.
Please |
It's not your thread Rommers. | |
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| Many Clouds on 04:17 - Jan 29 with 1963 views | RoyKeanesDog |
| Many Clouds on 04:08 - Jan 29 by jeera |
Ridiculous comparison and not credible in any way.
You and your fellow racing fans get protective immediately every time the subject arises.
Others are entitled to their views.
You like the sport. Some don't. |
I make you to be spot on there mate.
R keeps playing on the fact that I said they are bred for entertainment, and argued that so are dogs and cats as pets.
Rephrasing my comment I would say "they are bred to endanger their lives for out entertainment".
Before today I never really had much of an opinion on horse racing, but I can't really see how anybody can honestly say it isn't cruel to the animals.
The fact that nobody has responded to this site speaks volumes to me....
http://www.horsedeathwatch.com/
Whilst I wouldn't want to over-react, I can't see any logical practice other than completely abolishing all horse racing with immediate effect. | |
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| Many Clouds on 04:19 - Jan 29 with 1961 views | Ryorry |
| Many Clouds on 04:17 - Jan 29 by RoyKeanesDog |
I make you to be spot on there mate.
R keeps playing on the fact that I said they are bred for entertainment, and argued that so are dogs and cats as pets.
Rephrasing my comment I would say "they are bred to endanger their lives for out entertainment".
Before today I never really had much of an opinion on horse racing, but I can't really see how anybody can honestly say it isn't cruel to the animals.
The fact that nobody has responded to this site speaks volumes to me....
http://www.horsedeathwatch.com/
Whilst I wouldn't want to over-react, I can't see any logical practice other than completely abolishing all horse racing with immediate effect. |
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| Many Clouds on 04:21 - Jan 29 with 1958 views | jeera |
| Many Clouds on 04:08 - Jan 29 by jeera |
Ridiculous comparison and not credible in any way.
You and your fellow racing fans get protective immediately every time the subject arises.
Others are entitled to their views.
You like the sport. Some don't. |
Others not entitled to a view ryorry?
Can't force a horse to do your bidding?
Really? Surely you can't force a dog either. Or a human being?
They're trained to please. Like a dog. Like a soldier.
You can't physically force a man to walk to his death through over exertion but it happens.
Exploit them for your own fun by all means, but give over on the sentimental stuff. | |
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| Many Clouds on 04:32 - Jan 29 with 1943 views | RoyKeanesDog |
| Many Clouds on 04:19 - Jan 29 by Ryorry |
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I appreciate that often add good contributions to threads Ryorry, and generally open your mind to see other people's views - but I can't see why you can't accept the overwhelming negatives to this sport.
How can this be justified?
http://www.horsedeathwatch.com/
I am genuinely asking. If I hear a valid reason for it I will change my mind, but I can't live with myself if I say it's okay to allow horses to die unnecessarily every other day just for people's entertainment. | |
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