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Town’s form ahead of the trip to the Pirelli had been dropping like a guillotine. With revolution and malcontent in the air, but little seemingly on the block; McCarthy again changed his side. Bart once more had Spence, Chambers, Webster and Knudsen as a very clear back four. Skuse partnered Nydam in the centre and then all four strikers were thrown ahead of them. Garner the only centre-point in the centre circle. Waghorn started on the right and Sears on the left with McGoldrick moving between them.
Burton fans talked of their yellow brick wall last season, and looked to it infrequently this time again to cement their survival. In a game where the Blues fans made up a large proportion of the 4 thousand odd crowd in a ground and club so far out of place, but not undeserved of their Championship status, it was a glimpse of what we could have more often if the run continues.
It was a game of anti-football, Burton didn’t want us to play and we seemed to repeat back every stuttering header and two touch and chip movement in stilted politeness. It took Ipswich twenty minutes or so to make anything resembling a chance, and between that time they just made every fan in the away L behind Bart’s goal tetchy, frustrated and fearful.
McGoldrick was largely a passenger until he drove forward to bury a soft shot into Ripley’s hands. With that his other notable contribution was making use of two very good runs. Waghorn drew half the yellow defence with a diagonal bolt, Sears went on an umpteenth straight-line dash. The former Hammer received an expert pass, worked into a great position then failed to land a blow with a puffy cross to no one.
The width Burton were afforded game largely in the fact that Town had plenty of options off the ball never the right one. Sordell slid through the back of Webster after only a few minutes, but every other time he did it with the ball. Knudsen and Nydam did a good job of shielding out the former Trotter and Akins. However, there were two occasions were the Dane gave away a throw just by standing up. Mistiming his challenge, when he picked himself up the ball pinged off his shin or standing foot. Such was the manner in of Ipswich’s ineptitude at times.
Seeing Spence outpaced by the aging Warnock late in the half was easily as depressing and alarming. It was a half where Chambers verbally rebuked a linesman not up with play as much as anyone else around him. Burton made use of a strong breeze towards the right corner, Bart’s kicking time and again dropped shallow with backspin off a yellow head, or blue body away from us and into danger.
If any of Dyer, Akins or Sordell could shoot Town would deservedly have been behind. Bart injured his shoulder when spilling a fairly routine shot. He did well to atone at the onrushing feet and smother the ball. He spent the rest of the half windmilling his left arm.
The blowing and swirling elements of both the weather and the play made for terrible viewing. As corners were overhit as much as crosses from a home side who look capable of everything but finding the goal. Town seemed to switch formation without really matching them in any significant way. Sears and Waghorn changed flanks, McGoldrick then took up the left side when they finished the half on the right, everyone else remained the same. Especially when Dids did not, matching up Burton’s ability to find the side netting. Unfortunately.
Something had to change, but not Mick or the team. The sun came out and so did both sides. The neutrals had little more to feast their eyes on as Town’s central midfield consisted of Skuse winning the ball and then getting it back again to repeat the trick. Lund and Murphy for Burton both had attempts on, across and near the goal.
It was the efforts of those that warned Town first, then caused the opening goal for a team who hadn’t scored in a handful of games. Who else but us could serve one up to them? A smart shot palmed wide excellently by Bart. The resultant corner another example of what happens when you don’t pick up runners or those riding their markers. A tidy header and easy lead. Turner clawed himself onto the scoresheet like he had Garner all day with far greater importance.
The fact that all Town could manage from a corner previously was a soft scramble, and Chambers obstructing someone to earn a needless booking was a stark contrast. From here the boos and protests that had been brewing well before the game started to eke out like a wet fart of dissent. The air was rank once the home fans gushing went flat.
Change did come, but from left-field in more ways than just the dug outs being there in relation to us. Bru emerged from the depths to replace Nydam to a chorus of boos and disbelief. Tucking in on the left next to Skuse, his first contribution was a neat loop to Knudsen who showed a consistent touch and lack of control.
It wasn’t long before Town significantly found their feet and form. Garner who had proved himself predictably irritating in the middle took the ball on the right and danced with his defensive equivalent. Interplay between ball and man, saw efforts come and come back to the frontman. Spinning clear off the invention of McGoldrick, and into the path of Waghorn the goals per game king crowned the move with a thunderous drive. The bullet went through many bodies and tangled limbs and looked destined to be ricocheted out, but it wasn’t. Sunk between the mouth of the goal and home fans’ ribcages as the away terrace bounced off one another’s in relief.
The right side could have delivered the killer blow as Waghorn again found himself in the box. A deathly hush as the scorer tried to assist Sears. He clipped a tight-angled effort across Ripley and the goal. Sears was half an inch away from glory as a corner was given presumably because Ripley got a touch and not out of pity for either player failing to.
Soon after that Sears ran his last line as Ward wrote his first on the dram yet to unfold. The second sub to be greeted with derision and disbelief didn’t really deserve it. A neat and tidy wide option, he made the Brewers think twice more than once. Meanwhile McGoldrick now playing a sort of Darren Currie tribute by himself on the left, suddenly cut inside and lashed another shot that looked the part but fixed nothing as it settled the wrong side of the post.
Varney a fan favourite from McCarthy’s glory days entered the fray to his signature song from us, not them. It wasn’t even close to the strangest thing you’d see or hear today. Abuse and protests towards the manager subsided and grew between encouragement for the players. By now everyone but Mick was calling for Celina.
The scoundrel of last night’s twitter infamy had 1400 characters calling for him, as social media made real started singing his name; all the while his teammates battled and bullied in equal fervour, but to far less convincing effect. Bru won the ball in impressive fashion knocking his man and the matchball sideways, Waghorn was unfortunately too far away to help, but right in the ref’s ear and his expletive-laden reaction put him in the book too.
The home side had been all over us for more than hour and bar the odd move and moment Town had simply been all over the place. It took a few minutes more to see those already on their feet applauding. Celina came on, McGoldrick went off and the striker on the wing, came off for someone who’s still either a striker or a winger.
With expectations and tempers high, the diminutive Kosovan had all eyes on him. Dancing on the turn past his man, he sent Knudsen away only for the Dane to try, and fail. His cross not bothering the near post as a crowd either side of the goal expected more.
Again, fans willed the ball back to the final sub when it came back towards them and he managed to run past everyone, and the far post on the edge of the box as the opportunity disappeared as quickly as it came.
It would prove third time a charm as the youngster won a soft freekick expertly. If Waghorn’s clipping of his own heels had been masterful, the Man City kid’s a valiant effort fortune clearly favoured. All 8 stone of him rose and fell under the challenge of Warnock as he crashed to turf on the edge of the box so did Burton’s day.
A long time coming, Celina, Skuse and Waghorn stood over the ball. Next to me a stranger and I pondered the fairytale of winning skill and winning effort “It’s not going to be him is it? It’s on his right foot”. Well it was, and what a strike. Right in line with me, it bent and snuck between the post likely a sniper’s round, a moment where you could be happy to die. Emotions, grace and belief went awry as the youngster wheeled away in delight that outdid any sense of ego.
Off came his shirt as he milked his moment dry, a strange jumping dance action in celebration as the cocky little genius stood in all his plucked chicken glory. Mobbed by his team mates as we mobbed each other. There was a sense of consequential dread as he picked up the predictable disciplinary, a yellow card and game of “where’s my shirt?”. Getting dressed and a vague dressing down from the official he trotted back. Mick clapped him with three quick slaps of his palms barking and pointing at the rest of the side to see out the game. Back to basics and back in business for the four minutes of injury time.
Post-fistpumps and with the glow of getting away with it at its brightest, two Burton fans assured us that was the best they had played all season. We assured them it was the worst we’d played for a long time. Pragmatic about their survival it’s hard to apologise and not smirk a little.
Again, the poison came to a head, the uncertainty of fans, players and manager were all on display. A lack of belief all round apart from one man, in one moment, stole 3pts and arrested the slide. What system did we play today? Who cares? It’s not worth trying to work out but it is a problem for tomorrow. Tonight we can consider how Mick has changed a game for a handful of times this season and turned draws into wins, those that came before Celina will not feature in the headlines or forethoughts, but the turning and tightening of the screw by Ward and Bru’s inclusion paid off when Bersant nailed it.
One of the worst, weirdest and wonderful games I’ve seen in over 25 years of Town, and best of all, there was something for everyone tonight.
Celina take a bow...... on 20:16 - Oct 28 by Johnny_Boy
It's quite odd. According to some Mick diehards yesterday Celina wasn't good enough. Shouldn't start, or be anywhere near the team.
Amazing what a last minute winner can do.
Oddly, you'll still find it hard to see where he fits in given the utter lack of a system we now have. I didn't see a single person suggest he wasn't good enough last night, last week, last month.
If anything this only goes to show what a dysfunctional mess we have been at times this season. Today was really bad, worse than Barnsley first half bad. You could tell Celina was coming on, because McGoldrick had nothing left.
The fact is was the third sub was the oddest in terms of those who came on being "good enough" went in reverse order. However Mick has altered his sides in game and took victories 5 or 6 times now this season hasn't he?
Was that last ten minutes the perfect time to unleash someone who can do that? How did you see us beating them when we were so utterly dreadful in the first half?
I've not seen his comments yet, but I suspect Mick was wounded by some of the abuse and baiting today. It was sour and odd and predictable when we turned out so poorly by 3:45pm.
Celina take a bow...... on 20:20 - Oct 28 by Mullet
Oddly, you'll still find it hard to see where he fits in given the utter lack of a system we now have. I didn't see a single person suggest he wasn't good enough last night, last week, last month.
If anything this only goes to show what a dysfunctional mess we have been at times this season. Today was really bad, worse than Barnsley first half bad. You could tell Celina was coming on, because McGoldrick had nothing left.
The fact is was the third sub was the oddest in terms of those who came on being "good enough" went in reverse order. However Mick has altered his sides in game and took victories 5 or 6 times now this season hasn't he?
Was that last ten minutes the perfect time to unleash someone who can do that? How did you see us beating them when we were so utterly dreadful in the first half?
I've not seen his comments yet, but I suspect Mick was wounded by some of the abuse and baiting today. It was sour and odd and predictable when we turned out so poorly by 3:45pm.
I'd perhaps suggest, MM won his opening games by throwing caution to the wind by being attacking - instead of defensive.
The fact he was starting games with 4 strikers suggested this new bold approach was out of necessity because of injuries to midfielders & he had little other choice.
We've got a thin squad. We've got essential players that are injury prone.
You can't for one instance tell me Celina couldn't have started a few more games in a Town shirt? I don't buy the "he's saving him" bullsheett.
But hey ho, we collected 3pts today. The fact they've only scored 6 league goals all season & the last time they found the net was on the 16th Sept - shouldn't really suggest they are an easy side to beat - because we struggled today.
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The toxic atmosphere generated by a sizeable section of fans and Mick's snippy retorts pre and post match do not bode well do they Mullet? Other fans will note that we are 1 point shy of the play offs and wonder wtf is going on at Ipswich but Mick is now simply not getting it right for me. Almost compulsively trying to squeeze as many strikers into the starting eleven as you can (we have seen this before) but playing 75% of them out of position does not make an attacking line up. It creates an inconsequential, disjointed mish-mash which gets the best out of nobody. You describe McGoldrick as "peripheral" and this is spot on. The question is why is this? Our chief playmaker, bit of stardust man is almost sidelined to the wilderness of the flanks and his general ineffectiveness shines for all to see. Yes, again you are right to note that the introduction of both Bru and then Ward did make a difference. The latter's merely highlighting the fact that out wide Sears and McG are totally ineffective. Then, the elephant in the room -the mercurial Celina. Before his belated arrival, I had thought of posting that Mick should do the honourable thing and send him back so he can go somewhere else in January for if he was not going to get on today, then he might aswell give up. The game was screaming out for his ability to carry us forward along the floor, to pick a pass, scare defenders. We could all see it. Mick could too but the calls for him made it most unlikely. But hey, on he came, turned the game and bagged three lovely points. Please let Mick be the bigger man now. Surely he must see that a side needs that spark. Teach the lad the bits of his game he lacks, give him his head and more than a few minutes here and there or a one off appearance in which he is immediately subbed or dropped (like a bit of a "told you so" managerial f-you to player and fans) if it doesn't go perfectly. He might not be our player but then neither were Fraser or Lawrence and Mick saw fit to build a team around their talents. Failure to try this and more shoehorning of his "best players" into an eleven that is not a team will result in more dreadful performances. Fabulous free kick, celebrations took me back almost 40 years to when I was a boy on the terraces. Nice!
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Celina take a bow...... on 20:16 - Oct 28 by Johnny_Boy
It's quite odd. According to some Mick diehards yesterday Celina wasn't good enough. Shouldn't start, or be anywhere near the team.
Amazing what a last minute winner can do.
I was just saying to the lively bunch of lads in front of me that I didn't think Celina was a game-changer in the same way as Fraser or Lawrence, when he promptly did.
Still not absolutely convinced (at least that he isn't best used as an impact sub), but cant fault his performance today.
Celina take a bow...... on 20:59 - Oct 28 by Guthrum
I was just saying to the lively bunch of lads in front of me that I didn't think Celina was a game-changer in the same way as Fraser or Lawrence, when he promptly did.
Still not absolutely convinced (at least that he isn't best used as an impact sub), but cant fault his performance today.
Boo Guthers OUT!
But football is like that. The ex player is always going to score against you, the old manager which couldn't buy a win at the helm collects the 3pts against you & the opposition player you mock for being a donkey duly nets the injury time winner.
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Celina take a bow...... on 20:56 - Oct 28 by cbower
The toxic atmosphere generated by a sizeable section of fans and Mick's snippy retorts pre and post match do not bode well do they Mullet? Other fans will note that we are 1 point shy of the play offs and wonder wtf is going on at Ipswich but Mick is now simply not getting it right for me. Almost compulsively trying to squeeze as many strikers into the starting eleven as you can (we have seen this before) but playing 75% of them out of position does not make an attacking line up. It creates an inconsequential, disjointed mish-mash which gets the best out of nobody. You describe McGoldrick as "peripheral" and this is spot on. The question is why is this? Our chief playmaker, bit of stardust man is almost sidelined to the wilderness of the flanks and his general ineffectiveness shines for all to see. Yes, again you are right to note that the introduction of both Bru and then Ward did make a difference. The latter's merely highlighting the fact that out wide Sears and McG are totally ineffective. Then, the elephant in the room -the mercurial Celina. Before his belated arrival, I had thought of posting that Mick should do the honourable thing and send him back so he can go somewhere else in January for if he was not going to get on today, then he might aswell give up. The game was screaming out for his ability to carry us forward along the floor, to pick a pass, scare defenders. We could all see it. Mick could too but the calls for him made it most unlikely. But hey, on he came, turned the game and bagged three lovely points. Please let Mick be the bigger man now. Surely he must see that a side needs that spark. Teach the lad the bits of his game he lacks, give him his head and more than a few minutes here and there or a one off appearance in which he is immediately subbed or dropped (like a bit of a "told you so" managerial f-you to player and fans) if it doesn't go perfectly. He might not be our player but then neither were Fraser or Lawrence and Mick saw fit to build a team around their talents. Failure to try this and more shoehorning of his "best players" into an eleven that is not a team will result in more dreadful performances. Fabulous free kick, celebrations took me back almost 40 years to when I was a boy on the terraces. Nice!
I wouldn't even bother worrying about it.
Mick is off in the Summer.
I think that's practically set in stone.
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Celina take a bow...... on 20:56 - Oct 28 by cbower
The toxic atmosphere generated by a sizeable section of fans and Mick's snippy retorts pre and post match do not bode well do they Mullet? Other fans will note that we are 1 point shy of the play offs and wonder wtf is going on at Ipswich but Mick is now simply not getting it right for me. Almost compulsively trying to squeeze as many strikers into the starting eleven as you can (we have seen this before) but playing 75% of them out of position does not make an attacking line up. It creates an inconsequential, disjointed mish-mash which gets the best out of nobody. You describe McGoldrick as "peripheral" and this is spot on. The question is why is this? Our chief playmaker, bit of stardust man is almost sidelined to the wilderness of the flanks and his general ineffectiveness shines for all to see. Yes, again you are right to note that the introduction of both Bru and then Ward did make a difference. The latter's merely highlighting the fact that out wide Sears and McG are totally ineffective. Then, the elephant in the room -the mercurial Celina. Before his belated arrival, I had thought of posting that Mick should do the honourable thing and send him back so he can go somewhere else in January for if he was not going to get on today, then he might aswell give up. The game was screaming out for his ability to carry us forward along the floor, to pick a pass, scare defenders. We could all see it. Mick could too but the calls for him made it most unlikely. But hey, on he came, turned the game and bagged three lovely points. Please let Mick be the bigger man now. Surely he must see that a side needs that spark. Teach the lad the bits of his game he lacks, give him his head and more than a few minutes here and there or a one off appearance in which he is immediately subbed or dropped (like a bit of a "told you so" managerial f-you to player and fans) if it doesn't go perfectly. He might not be our player but then neither were Fraser or Lawrence and Mick saw fit to build a team around their talents. Failure to try this and more shoehorning of his "best players" into an eleven that is not a team will result in more dreadful performances. Fabulous free kick, celebrations took me back almost 40 years to when I was a boy on the terraces. Nice!
Jack Charlton once asked Sir Alf why he picked him as there were better centre halves around. Sir Alf told him "I pick the best team. Not necessarily the best players."
Celina take a bow...... on 20:42 - Oct 28 by Johnny_Boy
I'd perhaps suggest, MM won his opening games by throwing caution to the wind by being attacking - instead of defensive.
The fact he was starting games with 4 strikers suggested this new bold approach was out of necessity because of injuries to midfielders & he had little other choice.
We've got a thin squad. We've got essential players that are injury prone.
You can't for one instance tell me Celina couldn't have started a few more games in a Town shirt? I don't buy the "he's saving him" bullsheett.
But hey ho, we collected 3pts today. The fact they've only scored 6 league goals all season & the last time they found the net was on the 16th Sept - shouldn't really suggest they are an easy side to beat - because we struggled today.
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No one has said he couldn't but people using it as a way to berate Mick are oddly quiet on any detail. We've had two discussions since the derby where these people demanding he plays, or making up theories about Mick hating him or things like today "showing Mick" are still not able to say what happens when we play him and how we do it.
Mick has badly struggled to field a consistent team or system and just chucking Celina in has had mixed results. I made the point about injuries and selection last night too. But as with Waghorn who came off the bench, got his start and never looked back, Mick has weirdly kept getting it right with in game management.
Oddly today was possibly the worst game for Celina to start in. It was beyond terrible all game. It's quite possible that he'd have been ball watching, battered and lost because most of our team were.
The fact we'd battled our way back by about 70 mins and had them on the back foot made his introduction so good. The fans lifted, the players lifted, we had renewed energy out wide.
One thing that's getting lost is the individual performances of Chambers, Skuse, Waghorn and Garner. They really were the glue in a fairly confused and abject display. To hear the Burton fans say that was their peak today was really unbelievable. We struggled with everything and had periods where the negativity was only helping drag us down.
It's pretty obvious that in the last few appearances Celina hasn't done enough to put him in the team. I'd hope he gets his start and does what Lawrence and Fraser did before him.
Messaged my City mates about his goal and one called him slow (which shows the levels Citeh play at compared to us) and another said he's one of 20 David Silva wannabes. The application is where we need to see it.
Celina take a bow...... on 20:56 - Oct 28 by cbower
The toxic atmosphere generated by a sizeable section of fans and Mick's snippy retorts pre and post match do not bode well do they Mullet? Other fans will note that we are 1 point shy of the play offs and wonder wtf is going on at Ipswich but Mick is now simply not getting it right for me. Almost compulsively trying to squeeze as many strikers into the starting eleven as you can (we have seen this before) but playing 75% of them out of position does not make an attacking line up. It creates an inconsequential, disjointed mish-mash which gets the best out of nobody. You describe McGoldrick as "peripheral" and this is spot on. The question is why is this? Our chief playmaker, bit of stardust man is almost sidelined to the wilderness of the flanks and his general ineffectiveness shines for all to see. Yes, again you are right to note that the introduction of both Bru and then Ward did make a difference. The latter's merely highlighting the fact that out wide Sears and McG are totally ineffective. Then, the elephant in the room -the mercurial Celina. Before his belated arrival, I had thought of posting that Mick should do the honourable thing and send him back so he can go somewhere else in January for if he was not going to get on today, then he might aswell give up. The game was screaming out for his ability to carry us forward along the floor, to pick a pass, scare defenders. We could all see it. Mick could too but the calls for him made it most unlikely. But hey, on he came, turned the game and bagged three lovely points. Please let Mick be the bigger man now. Surely he must see that a side needs that spark. Teach the lad the bits of his game he lacks, give him his head and more than a few minutes here and there or a one off appearance in which he is immediately subbed or dropped (like a bit of a "told you so" managerial f-you to player and fans) if it doesn't go perfectly. He might not be our player but then neither were Fraser or Lawrence and Mick saw fit to build a team around their talents. Failure to try this and more shoehorning of his "best players" into an eleven that is not a team will result in more dreadful performances. Fabulous free kick, celebrations took me back almost 40 years to when I was a boy on the terraces. Nice!
It's baffling that people were calling Mick a c@@t today and then are complaints he's standing his ground. It's the same old hypocrisy which is dragging us down when it shouldn't and people need to consider what effect it has.
The players were definitely affected by some of it today maybe because it was such a small ground, it was much easier to hear from individuals?
I feel McG has struggled a bit with his decision making and there was nothing about today that suited anyone trying to play a bit. Burton simply didn't bother and it allowed them to blast in chance after chance. It was clear he was done when that shot went wide, he was running uphill effectively wasn't he?
I think we could afford to drop McG and play Celina Tuesday. Cardiff is a thankless game ayway and Dids looks tired and that means more likely to break down given his history. We could have done with Jonas having a better game too, Spence couldn't find his man if he taped to him lately and that has cost us points too many times.
It distresses me that Mick is off in May because this is not what he deserves, is hampering any hope of going at the playoffs and affecting everything already fragile and negative around the club. Watson has been in his element this week, and all of it's been unedifying. To think we're so far ahead of where some hoped/expected and the complaints are intensifying shows it's not about the football anymore.
What seems clear is that Mick is second-guessing himself and that's always going to lead to mistakes from him, from players and cost us. When he can settle on a side and people can just accept some rough and some smooth we'd have a fighting a chance for the rest of the season, but it seems Mick is leaving us in the best position possible in the league, in the squad and in the market for Marcus.
I can't remember an afternoon so erratic and worth it.
Celina take a bow...... on 22:45 - Oct 28 by Mullet
It's baffling that people were calling Mick a c@@t today and then are complaints he's standing his ground. It's the same old hypocrisy which is dragging us down when it shouldn't and people need to consider what effect it has.
The players were definitely affected by some of it today maybe because it was such a small ground, it was much easier to hear from individuals?
I feel McG has struggled a bit with his decision making and there was nothing about today that suited anyone trying to play a bit. Burton simply didn't bother and it allowed them to blast in chance after chance. It was clear he was done when that shot went wide, he was running uphill effectively wasn't he?
I think we could afford to drop McG and play Celina Tuesday. Cardiff is a thankless game ayway and Dids looks tired and that means more likely to break down given his history. We could have done with Jonas having a better game too, Spence couldn't find his man if he taped to him lately and that has cost us points too many times.
It distresses me that Mick is off in May because this is not what he deserves, is hampering any hope of going at the playoffs and affecting everything already fragile and negative around the club. Watson has been in his element this week, and all of it's been unedifying. To think we're so far ahead of where some hoped/expected and the complaints are intensifying shows it's not about the football anymore.
What seems clear is that Mick is second-guessing himself and that's always going to lead to mistakes from him, from players and cost us. When he can settle on a side and people can just accept some rough and some smooth we'd have a fighting a chance for the rest of the season, but it seems Mick is leaving us in the best position possible in the league, in the squad and in the market for Marcus.
I can't remember an afternoon so erratic and worth it.
The abuse is symptomatic of the modern media world and Watson is indeed a leading guttersnipe in a unedifying circus. Iorfa was abysmal at Bramall Lane but Spence has now put in two equally piss poor displays where his defensive indiscipline has been painful to watch. Maybe time to give Connolly a go?Jonas was, imo, affected by the wind more than most and he appears only ever a single mistake away from the wrath of boo boys. Must be hard to build confidence for him. Compare this to Bart. I found it odd that many clapped and cheered wildly when he produced a blocked save which was only caused by his own fumble in the first place! If he is played out of position, McGoldrick can often slow moves down and does not suit a counter attacking style. Fwiw, I would play Garner and Waghorn up top with McG in the hole or give that role to Celina and play two of Garner, Waghorn or McG as a front pair. Hope Mick goes to Cardiff and gives it a go. He is a decent, honourable bloke who tells it how he sees it. People who don't appreciate his somewhat brutal honesty astound me. Whilst I find myself baffled by some of his selections right now, he does not deserve to leave the club with such bile and vitriol aimed at him.
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Celina take a bow...... on 23:10 - Oct 28 with 6462 views
Unexpected top half of the table so far despite fans divided opinions, some seem to be criticising Mick for reacting in exactly the same way they do to criticism/abuse on here. It's not great but it could be a lot worse under someone else without more dosh.
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Celina take a bow...... on 20:16 - Oct 28 by Johnny_Boy
It's quite odd. According to some Mick diehards yesterday Celina wasn't good enough. Shouldn't start, or be anywhere near the team.
Amazing what a last minute winner can do.
Who said Celina "wasn't good enough, shouldn't start or shouldn't be anywhere near the team"?
Today he was the Messiah. Which is great as Garner, McGoldrick and Waghorn have been carrying that responsibility so far. I hope that Celina builds on that with a good performance from the start and cements his place - we'll look pretty potent with the others and him firing on all cylinders.
Pronouns: He/Him
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Celina take a bow...... on 20:20 - Oct 28 by Mullet
Oddly, you'll still find it hard to see where he fits in given the utter lack of a system we now have. I didn't see a single person suggest he wasn't good enough last night, last week, last month.
If anything this only goes to show what a dysfunctional mess we have been at times this season. Today was really bad, worse than Barnsley first half bad. You could tell Celina was coming on, because McGoldrick had nothing left.
The fact is was the third sub was the oddest in terms of those who came on being "good enough" went in reverse order. However Mick has altered his sides in game and took victories 5 or 6 times now this season hasn't he?
Was that last ten minutes the perfect time to unleash someone who can do that? How did you see us beating them when we were so utterly dreadful in the first half?
I've not seen his comments yet, but I suspect Mick was wounded by some of the abuse and baiting today. It was sour and odd and predictable when we turned out so poorly by 3:45pm.
Absolutely bang on. It's worrying how disjointed we look at times.
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Celina take a bow...... on 05:29 - Oct 29 with 6156 views
Celina take a bow...... on 23:17 - Oct 28 by Darth_Koont
Who said Celina "wasn't good enough, shouldn't start or shouldn't be anywhere near the team"?
Today he was the Messiah. Which is great as Garner, McGoldrick and Waghorn have been carrying that responsibility so far. I hope that Celina builds on that with a good performance from the start and cements his place - we'll look pretty potent with the others and him firing on all cylinders.
After Celina's little Tweet midweek, there were some on here that suggested he's done nothing since being in a Town shirt. Which is a little harsh due to his lack of playing time.
When someone was reminded of his goal against QPR, their response was: "but we didn't get the 3pts"
Ironic, because that poster was complaining about the point-scoring on here after wins/defeats, yet he's one of the main protagonists.
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Celina take a bow...... on 08:28 - Oct 29 with 6049 views
Celina take a bow...... on 23:07 - Oct 28 by cbower
The abuse is symptomatic of the modern media world and Watson is indeed a leading guttersnipe in a unedifying circus. Iorfa was abysmal at Bramall Lane but Spence has now put in two equally piss poor displays where his defensive indiscipline has been painful to watch. Maybe time to give Connolly a go?Jonas was, imo, affected by the wind more than most and he appears only ever a single mistake away from the wrath of boo boys. Must be hard to build confidence for him. Compare this to Bart. I found it odd that many clapped and cheered wildly when he produced a blocked save which was only caused by his own fumble in the first place! If he is played out of position, McGoldrick can often slow moves down and does not suit a counter attacking style. Fwiw, I would play Garner and Waghorn up top with McG in the hole or give that role to Celina and play two of Garner, Waghorn or McG as a front pair. Hope Mick goes to Cardiff and gives it a go. He is a decent, honourable bloke who tells it how he sees it. People who don't appreciate his somewhat brutal honesty astound me. Whilst I find myself baffled by some of his selections right now, he does not deserve to leave the club with such bile and vitriol aimed at him.
Had the same thought about Connolly once I went upstairs oddly, and the similar notion that he's from Everton, a massive talent too in their eyes and yet fans are not clamouring for him despite the RB position being in such disarray.
I think those that slated Knudsen so readily when he came here are rightly keeping schtum in the last year, those goals against them possibly helped, but overall you can see he's probably going to have a decent career at clubs like us. Yesterday was just one of those days where everything bounced off of him.
I think 4-3-3 works with Skuse, Adeyemi and Huws you then have Dozzell, Nydam and Downes all capable understudies but 2 of those are long term injuries and one not fit again which is annoying as it'd have been first choice in the summer for tough away games.
This notion that these petals can give it and not take it being ok is one of the most baffling things isn't it? Especially when they draw first blood every time and then go crying in many cases. I just think there's nothing Mick can do now. Every point won is theirs and every point lost is his again.
Celina take a bow...... on 05:29 - Oct 29 by Johnny_Boy
After Celina's little Tweet midweek, there were some on here that suggested he's done nothing since being in a Town shirt. Which is a little harsh due to his lack of playing time.
When someone was reminded of his goal against QPR, their response was: "but we didn't get the 3pts"
Ironic, because that poster was complaining about the point-scoring on here after wins/defeats, yet he's one of the main protagonists.
Well, he's not done more than Garner, Waghorn and Didzy this season even when they've come off the bench so Celina was always going to struggle for starts.
FWIW I'd have started him ahead of Sears today but he's also been left out and perhaps worth a gamble to see if one of our own players can turn his town career around.
I don't think the criticism of Celina is justified but equally he's not been good enough to demand inclusion either. Certainly I feel if we're going to take the calculated risk of playing Waghorn on one side with a lack of cover for his full back then Celina needs to be dynamite to justify his inclusion on the other flank and a similar weakness. You can at least see that Sears work rate helps the team even when he or the rest of the team isn't playing well. It may be chicken and egg if we play Celina we'll play better but that's not been guaranteed either this season.
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Celina take a bow...... on 10:43 - Oct 29 with 5871 views
Yep, a weird kind of game. After three defeats and with the wind we would probably have struggled anyway but the continued incoherence of just chucking lots of strikers onto the pitch is getting very tedious very quickly. It obviously left us exposed as far back as Millwall but all of them were contributing then, it might work if chasing the game it should not be a starting tactic.
None of the four were that good yesterday, all had spells of being involved but the lack of midfield behind them means a) we play the ball long too often and b) all of them end up being ineffective. McGoldrick could do with a match or two out at the moment I think as his decision making and sharpness have both dropped off again.
Having goals in the team will hide a lot though and that remains the big advantage over where we were last season. We can play better football than yesterday too but the duration had to assist that.
A couple of other points:
Bart's attempts to throw the ball out too quickly will cost us a goal soon, his judgement is poor too often. That partly comes back to us not having a settled pattern of play: a winger or Sears always looking for the ball down one flank would help here.
Warnock's mini-meltdown at the end was hilarious. Kicking the ball away from his keeper when it was virtually safe and then going through Celina for the free kick. Not quite the experience he was brought in for.
On McCarthy, it's increasingly clear that it will be the best thing all round if he goes in the Summer, although I'm not ready to trust Evans and Milne with getting the next appointment right, but I do wish people could stuffy convincing themselves everything he says or does is a personal slight. It'll make the rest of the season very unpleasant.
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