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Balon d’or 20:34 - Dec 7 with 5963 viewsvapour_trail

Ten years two winners. In that time only iniesta (once) has made the top two other than the two main men.

More predictable than the SPL.

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Balon d’or on 20:43 - Dec 7 with 4905 viewsSpruceMoose

Also equally as important.

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Balon d’or on 20:55 - Dec 7 with 4876 viewsHerbivore

Seems to be based on team success over individual performance.

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Balon d’or on 20:57 - Dec 7 with 4874 viewsvapour_trail

Balon d’or on 20:55 - Dec 7 by Herbivore

Seems to be based on team success over individual performance.


I’m not actually arguing with the result. They’re the best two players of the past decade.

Who would you (or anyone) put up as world POTY for the last 12 months.

Anyone that says Douglas can turn the lights off on the way out.

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Balon d’or on 21:02 - Dec 7 with 4863 viewsHerbivore

Balon d’or on 20:57 - Dec 7 by vapour_trail

I’m not actually arguing with the result. They’re the best two players of the past decade.

Who would you (or anyone) put up as world POTY for the last 12 months.

Anyone that says Douglas can turn the lights off on the way out.


Harry Kane.

Seriously though, Neymar has had a good year but it probably is Messi for me but Barca didn't have a great season so it's gone to Ronnie, who hasn't exactly had a shoddy year to be fair.

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Balon d’or on 21:02 - Dec 7 by Herbivore

Harry Kane.

Seriously though, Neymar has had a good year but it probably is Messi for me but Barca didn't have a great season so it's gone to Ronnie, who hasn't exactly had a shoddy year to be fair.


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Balon d’or on 00:11 - Dec 8 with 4783 viewsvapour_trail

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16 goals in 19 games?

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16 goals in 19 games?


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Balon d’or on 00:38 - Dec 8 with 4774 viewsvapour_trail

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On the wane? Jesus he’s in his early 20s.

FFS.

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Balon d’or on 00:38 - Dec 8 by vapour_trail

On the wane? Jesus he’s in his early 20s.

FFS.


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Balon d’or on 01:01 - Dec 8 with 4762 viewsvapour_trail

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Ha.

12 in 18. Still ain’t bad.

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Balon d’or on 07:32 - Dec 8 with 4663 viewshoppy

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Ha.

12 in 18. Still ain’t bad.


Can’t see him making the switch to rugby once his football playing days are over... just saying!

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Balon d’or on 08:27 - Dec 8 with 4622 viewsHerbivore

Balon d’or on 01:01 - Dec 8 by vapour_trail

Ha.

12 in 18. Still ain’t bad.


He's no Martyn Waghorn.

Seriously though, taking 2017 as a calendar year, Ronaldo hasn't been the best player in the world. Messi and Neymar have both been better imo. Madrid had a great season last season but a lot of that was down to the emergence and development of some cracking younger players whilst Ronnie completed his transformation into a buff Gary Lineker.

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Balon d’or on 08:30 - Dec 8 with 4616 viewschicoazul

Who will be the next person to win it that isnt Messi or Ron?

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Balon d’or on 08:31 - Dec 8 with 4615 viewsHerbivore

Balon d’or on 08:30 - Dec 8 by chicoazul

Who will be the next person to win it that isnt Messi or Ron?


Martyn Waghorn. Or Neymar.

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Balon d’or on 08:34 - Dec 8 with 4609 viewschicoazul

Balon d’or on 08:31 - Dec 8 by Herbivore

Martyn Waghorn. Or Neymar.


Lots of journos hate Neymar and the way him and his dad handle things. My prediction if Citeh do well in the CL and if Belgium do well at the WC is de Bruyne.

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Balon d’or on 08:36 - Dec 8 with 4610 viewshype313

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Guillem balague has been saying this for the past 18 months, obviously he will be on the wane given his age and number of games he has played. He's one incredible athlete though, can't recall many bad injuries he has had.

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Balon d’or on 08:38 - Dec 8 with 4610 viewsHerbivore

Balon d’or on 08:34 - Dec 8 by chicoazul

Lots of journos hate Neymar and the way him and his dad handle things. My prediction if Citeh do well in the CL and if Belgium do well at the WC is de Bruyne.


I really rate de Bruyne, great player. I just think the Balon d'Or seems to have moved on to be almost entirely about goalscorer these days and someone like de Bruyne will get overlooked.

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Balon d’or on 08:39 - Dec 8 with 4606 viewshype313

Balon d’or on 08:38 - Dec 8 by Herbivore

I really rate de Bruyne, great player. I just think the Balon d'Or seems to have moved on to be almost entirely about goalscorer these days and someone like de Bruyne will get overlooked.


Agreed, I also think De Gea is worth a shout in the coming years.

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Balon d’or on 08:43 - Dec 8 with 4603 viewsHerbivore

Balon d’or on 08:39 - Dec 8 by hype313

Agreed, I also think De Gea is worth a shout in the coming years.


He's the only thing standing between United and mid table obscurity, the arsehole.

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Balon d’or on 09:05 - Dec 8 with 4584 viewsitfcjoe

Balon d’or on 08:27 - Dec 8 by Herbivore

He's no Martyn Waghorn.

Seriously though, taking 2017 as a calendar year, Ronaldo hasn't been the best player in the world. Messi and Neymar have both been better imo. Madrid had a great season last season but a lot of that was down to the emergence and development of some cracking younger players whilst Ronnie completed his transformation into a buff Gary Lineker.


It's all about the KO stages of the CL and as always Ronnie showed up - 8 goals from the quarters onwards I think.

Since 2010/11 Ronnie has 29 goals in KO compared to 5 for MEssi

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Balon d’or on 09:10 - Dec 8 with 4572 viewsHerbivore

Balon d’or on 09:05 - Dec 8 by itfcjoe

It's all about the KO stages of the CL and as always Ronnie showed up - 8 goals from the quarters onwards I think.

Since 2010/11 Ronnie has 29 goals in KO compared to 5 for MEssi


That's a depressingly reductive way of judging who the best player is.

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Balon d’or on 09:23 - Dec 8 with 4566 viewsitfcjoe

Balon d’or on 09:10 - Dec 8 by Herbivore

That's a depressingly reductive way of judging who the best player is.


I prefer Messi to watch personally - but in the last 2 years Ronaldo has been the driving force for his club side winning the biggest prize and Portugal winning the Euro's

Messi didn't show up in the big games for Barca last year in the CL - they got smashed by PSG and then had the amazing win, and that was followed by Barca not scoring across 2 legs v Juve in the quarters.

I'm sure he'll be back, but 2017 wasn't a good year for him in the club game and dragging a side like Argentina just to qualify for the World Cup isn't enough.

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Balon d’or on 10:13 - Dec 8 with 4528 viewstheipswichman

Balon d’or on 09:10 - Dec 8 by Herbivore

That's a depressingly reductive way of judging who the best player is.


Perhaps it’s slightly too specific but there are many players who can score vs average teams in La Liga so surely to separate the best from the good it’s about the one who turns up for the big games, CR7 did that.

I don’t think there’s ever been an A’s complete player as Ronaldo, and I’m not sure there ever will be again.
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Balon d’or on 10:41 - Dec 8 with 4505 viewsHerbivore

Balon d’or on 10:13 - Dec 8 by theipswichman

Perhaps it’s slightly too specific but there are many players who can score vs average teams in La Liga so surely to separate the best from the good it’s about the one who turns up for the big games, CR7 did that.

I don’t think there’s ever been an A’s complete player as Ronaldo, and I’m not sure there ever will be again.


Ironically over their careers, Messi has a better goalscoring record against the better sides. By some distance too. If you're talking a complete player then Messi is way ahead in that respect, Ronnie is incredible at what he does but what he does is far more limited than Messi.

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Balon d’or on 10:43 - Dec 8 with 4502 viewsHerbivore

Balon d’or on 09:23 - Dec 8 by itfcjoe

I prefer Messi to watch personally - but in the last 2 years Ronaldo has been the driving force for his club side winning the biggest prize and Portugal winning the Euro's

Messi didn't show up in the big games for Barca last year in the CL - they got smashed by PSG and then had the amazing win, and that was followed by Barca not scoring across 2 legs v Juve in the quarters.

I'm sure he'll be back, but 2017 wasn't a good year for him in the club game and dragging a side like Argentina just to qualify for the World Cup isn't enough.


Messi had a good 2017 personally, he's scored and assisted more goals than Ronnie. Barca haven't been great (although they look better this season) and that is a factor. Real were excellent last season, and were far from a one man team. I'd have backed them to win the CL without Ronaldo.

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