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Classic Ipswich Town team 09:55 - Oct 6 with 2811 viewsFernando

Hey guys, I'm looking to release an all time Ipswich Town squad for the new PES, it will be free but want to make it as accurate as possible. Was hoping to get some help on what your personal starting XI would be or who should be in/out of the squad.

Also I'm sure a lot of the ratings and positions below are way off, for scale peak Pele/Maradona/Messi would be around 95, and the best EPL players of today would be about 88/89. At the moment I'm probably a bit light on for wingers.

Appreciate thoughts from anyone, thanks :)

GK Cooper 82
GK Bailey 80
CB Beattie 85
CB Butcher 84
CB Osman 82
CB Hunter 81
RB Burley 80
RB Carberry 80
LB Mills 81
DM Baxter 80
DM Wark 83
CM McCall 81
CM Holland 81
CM Talbot 81
CM Thijssen 82
AM Muhren 82
RM Dyer 80
LW Leadbetter 81
CF Whymark 82
CF Brazil 82
CF Phillips 83
CF Crawford 84
CF Mariner 83
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Classic Ipswich Town team on 09:58 - Oct 6 with 2789 viewsBlueBadger

I don't know if I'd have Holland as an 81 - mid 70's maybe.
And as for Leadbetter...

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Classic Ipswich Town team on 10:15 - Oct 6 with 2748 viewsTrumptonBlue

Classic Ipswich Town team on 09:58 - Oct 6 by BlueBadger

I don't know if I'd have Holland as an 81 - mid 70's maybe.
And as for Leadbetter...


Leadbetter, not Leadbitter. But you knew that, right?
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Classic Ipswich Town team on 10:17 - Oct 6 with 2737 viewsBlueBadger

Classic Ipswich Town team on 10:15 - Oct 6 by TrumptonBlue

Leadbetter, not Leadbitter. But you knew that, right?


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Classic Ipswich Town team on 10:29 - Oct 6 with 2716 viewsKeno

No Douglas - he is something of a cult figure

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Classic Ipswich Town team on 10:37 - Oct 6 with 2699 viewsBoxerBlue

I’d say Muhren and Thijssen 84

Holland 79

But other than spot on! 👍🏻

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Classic Ipswich Town team on 10:39 - Oct 6 with 2694 viewschicoazul

Is this one of those things people in the media do "for exposure"?

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Classic Ipswich Town team on 10:42 - Oct 6 with 2691 viewsconnorscontract

For scale, John Wark scored 36 goals in a season from Central Midfield, in a midfield 3 where one of the other midfielders didn't tackle, and the other one was a bit clumsy in the tackle.

So think early Mourinho Chelsea, with Wark having to play both Lampard's and Makelele's roles, and still scoring more goals than Frank.

He's got to be in the 90s.

And Town fans slightly older than me will tell you that Beattie was better than him.
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Classic Ipswich Town team on 10:44 - Oct 6 with 2684 viewsStadiumofdark

Classic Ipswich Town team on 10:42 - Oct 6 by connorscontract

For scale, John Wark scored 36 goals in a season from Central Midfield, in a midfield 3 where one of the other midfielders didn't tackle, and the other one was a bit clumsy in the tackle.

So think early Mourinho Chelsea, with Wark having to play both Lampard's and Makelele's roles, and still scoring more goals than Frank.

He's got to be in the 90s.

And Town fans slightly older than me will tell you that Beattie was better than him.


Wark could be in the 90s in 3 or 4 positions
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Classic Ipswich Town team on 10:44 - Oct 6 with 2684 viewsDanTheMan

Classic Ipswich Town team on 10:39 - Oct 6 by chicoazul

Is this one of those things people in the media do "for exposure"?


Nah, modders usually just do it for the hell of it.

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Classic Ipswich Town team on 10:46 - Oct 6 with 2675 viewsbrazil1982

I'd say Crawford should be the highest rating forward.
Beattie 89
Not so sure Brazil, McCall, Holland, Dyer should be that high.

Good luck!
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Classic Ipswich Town team on 11:02 - Oct 6 with 2642 viewskpblues

I'd say pretty spot on Fernando apart from Mccall & Dyer who for me were solid but not spectacular.
Maybe worth considering the original David Johnson who was a class act and a lot to do with Bobby Robson's early success.
Good to see the under rated Trevor Whymark in there but might worth considering another under rated player in Bryan Hamilton as well.

Good luck though !

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Classic Ipswich Town team on 11:14 - Oct 6 with 2620 viewsDennyx4

My opinion for what its worth

Wark & Muhren should be more highly rated

Mccall & Holland a little lower than stated

It would also be good to add Marcus Stewart as a striker and Jason Dozzell as a CM.
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Classic Ipswich Town team on 11:21 - Oct 6 with 2610 viewsBinner

Wark and Beattie should be in the low 90s

Thijssen and Muhren about 90.

Most of these players were among the best of their day and battling for major honours over several years so should be in the high 80s according to your 'scale' (including Eric Gates whom you have completely missed out)

McCall was very good but not quite up to the standard of the rest of the list.

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Classic Ipswich Town team on 11:23 - Oct 6 with 2599 viewsBinner

Classic Ipswich Town team on 11:02 - Oct 6 by kpblues

I'd say pretty spot on Fernando apart from Mccall & Dyer who for me were solid but not spectacular.
Maybe worth considering the original David Johnson who was a class act and a lot to do with Bobby Robson's early success.
Good to see the under rated Trevor Whymark in there but might worth considering another under rated player in Bryan Hamilton as well.

Good luck though !


Bryan Hamilton - good shout.

Also Eric Gates should be in.

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Classic Ipswich Town team on 11:32 - Oct 6 with 2578 viewssibrespace

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Classic Ipswich Town team on 12:05 - Oct 6 with 2519 viewsBlue_Moses

Classic Ipswich Town team on 10:42 - Oct 6 by connorscontract

For scale, John Wark scored 36 goals in a season from Central Midfield, in a midfield 3 where one of the other midfielders didn't tackle, and the other one was a bit clumsy in the tackle.

So think early Mourinho Chelsea, with Wark having to play both Lampard's and Makelele's roles, and still scoring more goals than Frank.

He's got to be in the 90s.

And Town fans slightly older than me will tell you that Beattie was better than him.


I only saw Wark from the 2nd coming onwards but even based on that would say he should be late 80s
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Classic Ipswich Town team on 12:56 - Oct 6 with 2436 viewsjas0999

Dryer and Holland scoring far too high.

Wark should without a doubt be in the 90s. Crawford as well.
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Classic Ipswich Town team on 13:46 - Oct 6 with 2377 viewsBeattiesBeerGut

I can't have Grant Leadbetter.

Marcus Stewart was by far and away our best player in the last 20 years and should be in there.

Taricco might squeak in as well.
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Classic Ipswich Town team on 13:47 - Oct 6 with 2375 viewsFernando

Brilliant, thanks everyone, strong chance to include most of the suggested players and tweaks. Definitely keen to capture Wark's unique role and his timing of runs into the box etc.

Can anyone confirm what should be the main position for Muhren and Thijssen, CM or otherwise?
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Classic Ipswich Town team on 14:25 - Oct 6 with 2306 viewsNo9

I feel sure if they were playing today, the Beat, Warkie & the Dutch duo would be in the 90's.
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Classic Ipswich Town team on 14:57 - Oct 6 with 2281 viewssibrespace

Classic Ipswich Town team on 13:47 - Oct 6 by Fernando

Brilliant, thanks everyone, strong chance to include most of the suggested players and tweaks. Definitely keen to capture Wark's unique role and his timing of runs into the box etc.

Can anyone confirm what should be the main position for Muhren and Thijssen, CM or otherwise?


Muhren was LM. Thijssen was RM with John Work as CM and Eric Gates as CAM
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Classic Ipswich Town team on 19:10 - Oct 6 with 2197 viewsBinner

Classic Ipswich Town team on 13:46 - Oct 6 by BeattiesBeerGut

I can't have Grant Leadbetter.

Marcus Stewart was by far and away our best player in the last 20 years and should be in there.

Taricco might squeak in as well.


It's not Grant Leadbitter ya numpty. It is Jimmy Leadbetter; one of our best ever players and spelt differently. He should be at least mid to high 80s compared to others on the list.

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