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Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move 08:52 - Jan 8 with 4121 viewsElderGrizzly

And Trump has bought it. The Americans should be looking elsewhere for the real ‘revenge’ attack.

And with a passenger jet exploding in mid-air 2 minutes after take off from Tehran, it is not a good day for the Middle East. The Ukrainians have disputed the Iranians saying it was technical failure, given no-one had examined the wreckage and it takes months to determine this.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister has hinted at a bomb or missile and has started a criminal investigation.
What is clear, is the plane was on fire as it came down, not only on impact.



Missiles were being fired in the area and Iranian special forces have the black boxes

[Post edited 8 Jan 2020 8:54]
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Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move on 13:54 - Jan 8 with 1108 viewsStokieBlue

Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move on 13:46 - Jan 8 by Guthrum

Extremely unlikely to have been a 'stray' ballistic missile, chances of that are miniscule. Timing also does not match that of the known missile strikes.

An over-enthusiastic/jumpy fighter controller or commander of an anti-aircraft missile battery, on the other hand, is quite a likely scenario (happened with MH17, the Vincennes incident and KAL007).
[Post edited 8 Jan 2020 13:50]


Think this is pretty much right.

In order for it to be a stray missile the plane would have needed to fly directly through the arc of the missile which couldn't have happened.

A jumpy commander misidentifying a plane as a US plane on a strike mission is possible.

SB

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Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move on 15:35 - Jan 8 with 1048 viewscrunchie1978

Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move on 09:02 - Jan 8 by GeoffSentence

Most of the passengers were Iranian. What organisation in Iran would be prepared to kill 140 Iranians to get at 3 British nationals?


Lockerbie.....CIA operatives on that flight so it's highly likely it could happen.
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Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move on 19:38 - Jan 8 with 985 viewsElderGrizzly

Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move on 13:54 - Jan 8 by StokieBlue

Think this is pretty much right.

In order for it to be a stray missile the plane would have needed to fly directly through the arc of the missile which couldn't have happened.

A jumpy commander misidentifying a plane as a US plane on a strike mission is possible.

SB


As mentioned this morning, Iranian special forces grabbed the black boxes immediately and now won’t release them to Boeing

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/08/iran-says-it-will-not-give-black-b

Ukraine President still pushing crime, not accident too
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Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move on 19:45 - Jan 8 with 981 viewsGeoffSentence

Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move on 19:38 - Jan 8 by ElderGrizzly

As mentioned this morning, Iranian special forces grabbed the black boxes immediately and now won’t release them to Boeing

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/08/iran-says-it-will-not-give-black-b

Ukraine President still pushing crime, not accident too


looking more and more like a fvck up with a missile

Don't boil a kettle on a boat.
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Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move on 19:48 - Jan 8 with 977 viewsjaykay

Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move on 12:38 - Jan 8 by Bluesquid

Name dropping people in threads, how nice. That about sums you up.

But the ironic thing is that you won't even be reading this post as you have me on ignore.

Why? Well that is because i called you out on your bs peddling when you claimed that Iran wants to see a Jew free Middle East when in fact Iran's Jewish community is the largest in the Middle East outside Israel.

A fine example of the nasty stuff that you push, bravo.


to think he comes all high and mighty if hes mention in a post. still one special rule for him . or is it hypocritical

forensic experts say footers and spruces fingerprints were not found at the scene after the weekends rows

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Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move on 16:33 - Jan 9 with 898 viewsElderGrizzly

Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move on 19:45 - Jan 8 by GeoffSentence

looking more and more like a fvck up with a missile


Or 2 missiles. This is what the Ukrainians were discussing yesterday

Intelligence is from a European partner, not directly US

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Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move on 17:02 - Jan 9 with 864 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move on 15:35 - Jan 8 by crunchie1978

Lockerbie.....CIA operatives on that flight so it's highly likely it could happen.


Noooow this thread has finally hit conspiracy central.

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Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move on 17:30 - Jan 9 with 844 viewscrunchie1978

Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move on 17:02 - Jan 9 by Cheltenham_Blue

Noooow this thread has finally hit conspiracy central.


Does that make me the winner?
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Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move on 17:35 - Jan 9 with 837 viewsGriller

Thick idiot that Trump is I don't think he has 'bought' anything. If the truth is known I believe he is hoping that Iranian attacks will be escalated to give him the perfect excuse to destroy their nuclear capabilities. All in all this probably would not be a bad thing.
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Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move on 21:39 - Jan 9 with 768 viewsBloomBlue

Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move on 13:46 - Jan 8 by Guthrum

Extremely unlikely to have been a 'stray' ballistic missile, chances of that are miniscule. Timing also does not match that of the known missile strikes.

An over-enthusiastic/jumpy fighter controller or commander of an anti-aircraft missile battery, on the other hand, is quite a likely scenario (happened with MH17, the Vincennes incident and KAL007).
[Post edited 8 Jan 2020 13:50]


Canadian's also saying evidence pointing to a missile strike.
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Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move on 22:14 - Jan 9 with 746 viewsOxford_Blue

Iranian attack in Iraq is a deflection move on 09:00 - Jan 8 by GeoffSentence

Are you suggesting that this is linked to the current tension between Iran and the US?

The timing is certainly highly coincidental but both Ukraine and Iran are saying that there is no such link. Most of the people on board where Iranians so it doesn't make any sense for it to have been shot down by an Iranian missile.

In the absence of any other evidence, at the moment it appears to be nothing more than a horrible coincidence. Maybe something will come out later, but right now this sort of speculation is close to hysterical.


That doesn’t apply if it was a mistaken missile strike.

Given the plane had an explosion mid air it is unlikely to be engine failure. If the Iranians have nothing to use and the black box supported engine trouble, why suppress it?
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