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Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism 07:04 - Sep 18 with 589 viewsOldsmoker

Grant Shapps, the Transport minister, is in private talks with the rail companies over their franchises. Emergency contracts that were signed in March expire on Sunday. Some rail companies want to walk away entirely because they are losing money.The uncertainty over when Covid-19 will end has left them with no idea when they will return to profitabilty.

Nationalisation through the back door.
Govt. are betraying the private sector by admitting that public owned companies are better run.
Thatcherism is dead/doesn't work shocker.

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Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 07:14 - Sep 18 with 564 viewsBlueBadger

Here's what will happen: They'll quietly cut a deal to give the Efficient Private Sector more subs. They're all in favour of paying money to the workshy and unproductive if it's their mates.
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Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 07:18 - Sep 18 with 550 viewsOldsmoker

Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 07:14 - Sep 18 by BlueBadger

Here's what will happen: They'll quietly cut a deal to give the Efficient Private Sector more subs. They're all in favour of paying money to the workshy and unproductive if it's their mates.
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Is that the arrangement where they give them taxpayers money on the condition that 5million squid gets donated to Tory party coffers?

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Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 07:51 - Sep 18 with 503 viewsBloomBlue

Public owned companies are better run.. lol best joke of the day.
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Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 07:54 - Sep 18 with 499 viewsTractorWood

I don't think it's pertinent whether they are public of privately owned at the moment. In both scenarios they would be losing money hand over fist because no one is using public transport.

Didn't TfL get a bailout after about 25 minutes of Covid and then another one in July?

I know that was then, but it could be again..
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Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 07:59 - Sep 18 with 494 viewsSwansea_Blue

Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 07:51 - Sep 18 by BloomBlue

Public owned companies are better run.. lol best joke of the day.


When we went interailing last year, by far the worst services were here in the UK. There’s a mixture from public to hybrid models elsewhere; all seem better than our franchises.

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Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 08:03 - Sep 18 with 485 viewsTractorWood

Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 07:59 - Sep 18 by Swansea_Blue

When we went interailing last year, by far the worst services were here in the UK. There’s a mixture from public to hybrid models elsewhere; all seem better than our franchises.


Agree on the abroad point but our network is 170 years old. Nationalisation worries me with a Tory government. They'd probably give a £2bn contract to a rubber duck manufacturer in Guildford because they once bought some toffee from a Tory bake sale.
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I know that was then, but it could be again..
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Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 08:09 - Sep 18 with 464 viewsOldsmoker

Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 08:03 - Sep 18 by TractorWood

Agree on the abroad point but our network is 170 years old. Nationalisation worries me with a Tory government. They'd probably give a £2bn contract to a rubber duck manufacturer in Guildford because they once bought some toffee from a Tory bake sale.
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That sort of expert advice is now lost with the appointment of Chris Grayling as a director of the company who run Felixstowe port.

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Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 08:11 - Sep 18 with 463 viewssolemio

The most efficiently run railway in this country this century was the East Coast Main Line (King's Cross to Edinburgh) during the period when it was effectively nationalized.
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Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 08:26 - Sep 18 with 430 viewsGuthrum

Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 07:51 - Sep 18 by BloomBlue

Public owned companies are better run.. lol best joke of the day.


The inherent failing of private business trying to run public services is the imperative to make profits and pay shareholders, in sectors where that is, at best, a marginal proposition*. In addition, their leverage on the lending markets (to raise finance) is considerably less than that of a national government.

A better approach might be a formally non-profit (effectively charity) approach, if one still insists that private administration is more efficient than public. Tho there is little real evidence that the latter is true - large companies are just as adept at malpractice, mismanagement and wasting money, often also being overloaded with debt.

There are reasons why workhouses, despite being a reasonable concept, are looked back upon with horror from the comfort of a Welfare State.


* Particularly when the cost of franchise fees is taken into consideration.

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Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 08:58 - Sep 18 with 374 viewsSwansea_Blue

Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 08:03 - Sep 18 by TractorWood

Agree on the abroad point but our network is 170 years old. Nationalisation worries me with a Tory government. They'd probably give a £2bn contract to a rubber duck manufacturer in Guildford because they once bought some toffee from a Tory bake sale.
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You can never have enough rubber ducks

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Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 09:52 - Sep 18 with 306 viewsfactual_blue

Which of his many names is shapps using during these talks?

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Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 10:07 - Sep 18 with 280 viewsBasuco

Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 07:51 - Sep 18 by BloomBlue

Public owned companies are better run.. lol best joke of the day.


Closing public owned labs and transfer services to the private sector testing is working well!!! Capacity of 250,000 currently completing around 180,000 test's or around 70,000 people being tested.
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Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 11:12 - Sep 18 with 235 viewsbournemouthblue

This could be a way for the Tories to claim Nationalism doesn't work

They'll Nationalise them now, in terrible trading conditions and then cry foul when they cock it up


Incidentally, I think it was the Eastern Line which actually did very well whilst Nationalised but they Privatised it any way
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Alcohol is the answer but I can't remember the question!
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Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 11:33 - Sep 18 with 208 viewsTractorWood

Johnson Govt abandons Thatcherism on 08:58 - Sep 18 by Swansea_Blue

You can never have enough rubber ducks


I've definitely seen too many rubber ducks at village duck races.

Chaos.

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