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If Biden wins where he's leading 16:12 - Nov 4 with 8716 viewsclive_baker

He's done it?

Michigan: 16
Nevada: 6
Wisconsin: 10

32 + 238 already in the bag = Smashed it...just.

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If Biden wins where he's leading on 16:21 - Nov 4 with 3082 viewsSteve_M

Nevada seems slightly less certain than the other two at the moment. Narrower lead, plenty of ballots left to be counted but, yes, that would be 270.

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If Biden wins where he's leading on 16:29 - Nov 4 with 3046 viewsITFC_Forever

BBC are only showing the current score as 224 - 213 in favour of Biden?

Is he already on 238?

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If Biden wins where he's leading on 16:39 - Nov 4 with 2999 viewsclive_baker

If Biden wins where he's leading on 16:29 - Nov 4 by ITFC_Forever

BBC are only showing the current score as 224 - 213 in favour of Biden?

Is he already on 238?


What I'm looking at is showing 238, I presume it assumes NH and AZ are in the bag as his lead is more material there relative to the votes counted. Not insurmountable, but more unlikely to swing back.

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If Biden wins where he's leading on 16:50 - Nov 4 with 2931 viewsSteve_M

If Biden wins where he's leading on 16:39 - Nov 4 by clive_baker

What I'm looking at is showing 238, I presume it assumes NH and AZ are in the bag as his lead is more material there relative to the votes counted. Not insurmountable, but more unlikely to swing back.


FT & Guardian both showing 238, think that's the PA feed. There was a bit of a scare with Arizona showing some dodgy data but Biden still well ahead even if not there yet.

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If Biden wins where he's leading on 17:10 - Nov 4 with 2870 viewsgordon

The only way it could go wrong is if Arizona isn't completely safe yet - Republicans have been quite bullish there, but might just be bullish*t.
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If Biden wins where he's leading on 17:14 - Nov 4 with 2850 viewsGuthrum

If Biden wins where he's leading on 17:10 - Nov 4 by gordon

The only way it could go wrong is if Arizona isn't completely safe yet - Republicans have been quite bullish there, but might just be bullish*t.


If PA swings Dem with the later counts of Philly votes (assuming MI and WI go to Biden), then Arizona/Nevada may become irrelevant.

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If Biden wins where he's leading on 17:28 - Nov 4 with 2773 viewsclive_baker

If Biden wins where he's leading on 17:10 - Nov 4 by gordon

The only way it could go wrong is if Arizona isn't completely safe yet - Republicans have been quite bullish there, but might just be bullish*t.


There's only c. 500k votes left to count there, and Biden is c. 100k ahead. Would require Trump to get 60% of the 500k uncounted votes, when so far he's got 47.6% of the counted 2.7m. Seems unlikely.

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If Biden wins where he's leading on 17:29 - Nov 4 with 2763 viewsgordon

If Biden wins where he's leading on 17:14 - Nov 4 by Guthrum

If PA swings Dem with the later counts of Philly votes (assuming MI and WI go to Biden), then Arizona/Nevada may become irrelevant.


Yes, Trump has to win Pennsylvania regardless, which is unlikely but still possible - but they reckon it'll take a few days to count all the mail on votes there. So if Arizona does go Republican, as well as Georgia and North Carolina, then it could be an agonising, angry, litigious wait to see what happens in PA.
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If Biden wins where he's leading on 17:32 - Nov 4 with 2751 viewsgordon

If Biden wins where he's leading on 17:28 - Nov 4 by clive_baker

There's only c. 500k votes left to count there, and Biden is c. 100k ahead. Would require Trump to get 60% of the 500k uncounted votes, when so far he's got 47.6% of the counted 2.7m. Seems unlikely.


It may be unlikely but it's the last chance for Trump - think they hope it may be rural votes rather than mail-in votes, which means it could break heavily to Trump.
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If Biden wins where he's leading on 17:42 - Nov 4 with 2706 viewsclive_baker

If Biden wins where he's leading on 17:32 - Nov 4 by gordon

It may be unlikely but it's the last chance for Trump - think they hope it may be rural votes rather than mail-in votes, which means it could break heavily to Trump.


Interesting, hopefully that's not the case.

As Steve says, I'm also nervous about Nevada given there's only 8k votes separating them and nearly 600,000 votes left to count. I'm hoping the fact the postal votes are to be counted lends itself to JB.

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If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:06 - Nov 4 with 2615 viewsfooters

And the recount calls have started already. How many states will he try to do this to draw it out as long as possible?

As I understand it, each state has a threshold which has to be met to allow a recount. Is that correct?

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If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:07 - Nov 4 with 2603 viewsDinDjarin

Wisconsin said all the votes have been counted and that they are now "triple-checking" their math
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If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:10 - Nov 4 with 2590 viewsgordon

If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:06 - Nov 4 by footers

And the recount calls have started already. How many states will he try to do this to draw it out as long as possible?

As I understand it, each state has a threshold which has to be met to allow a recount. Is that correct?


They will try and sling mud all over the place, concoct wild conspiracy theories, and make it seem as if the whole thing was a crooked farce. It's going to be a whole new type of mental and will surely end in violence.
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If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:17 - Nov 4 with 2560 viewsElderGrizzly

If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:06 - Nov 4 by footers

And the recount calls have started already. How many states will he try to do this to draw it out as long as possible?

As I understand it, each state has a threshold which has to be met to allow a recount. Is that correct?


It’s 1%.

He has already demanded Wisconsin in a recount
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If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:18 - Nov 4 with 2551 viewsSwansea_Blue

If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:17 - Nov 4 by ElderGrizzly

It’s 1%.

He has already demanded Wisconsin in a recount


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If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:21 - Nov 4 with 2541 viewsElderGrizzly

If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:10 - Nov 4 by gordon

They will try and sling mud all over the place, concoct wild conspiracy theories, and make it seem as if the whole thing was a crooked farce. It's going to be a whole new type of mental and will surely end in violence.


It will absolutely end in violence, potentially against any judges who decide against him too.

We’ll see the “Enemy of the People” line trotted out soon enough
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If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:22 - Nov 4 with 2538 viewsfooters

If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:17 - Nov 4 by ElderGrizzly

It’s 1%.

He has already demanded Wisconsin in a recount


Ah, I thought it varied state by state. Cheers for confirming.

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If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:28 - Nov 4 with 2506 viewsElderGrizzly

If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:22 - Nov 4 by footers

Ah, I thought it varied state by state. Cheers for confirming.


Wisconsin is certainly 1%.

It looks like they have a trick up their sleeve too.

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If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:30 - Nov 4 with 2498 viewsIllinoisblue

My neighborhood gov lobbyist friend has some def info that AZ may not be Biden’s after all...

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If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:31 - Nov 4 with 2477 viewsIllinoisblue

If Biden wins where he's leading on 17:10 - Nov 4 by gordon

The only way it could go wrong is if Arizona isn't completely safe yet - Republicans have been quite bullish there, but might just be bullish*t.


See my post above

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If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:32 - Nov 4 with 2476 viewsfooters

If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:30 - Nov 4 by Illinoisblue

My neighborhood gov lobbyist friend has some def info that AZ may not be Biden’s after all...


Oh Jesus, here we go... This could play out for months now, if he kicks up a fuss?

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If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:34 - Nov 4 with 2458 viewsElderGrizzly

If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:30 - Nov 4 by Illinoisblue

My neighborhood gov lobbyist friend has some def info that AZ may not be Biden’s after all...


Trump’s campaign manager is saying they’ll win by 40k

And then this twist

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If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:35 - Nov 4 with 2447 viewsElderGrizzly

If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:31 - Nov 4 by Illinoisblue

See my post above


May not matter as press now saying Biden is favourite in GEorgia and Penn
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If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:41 - Nov 4 with 2422 viewsElderGrizzly

If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:22 - Nov 4 by footers

Ah, I thought it varied state by state. Cheers for confirming.


There is always a tweet

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If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:41 - Nov 4 with 2422 viewsIllinoisblue

If Biden wins where he's leading on 18:35 - Nov 4 by ElderGrizzly

May not matter as press now saying Biden is favourite in GEorgia and Penn


Fingers crossed...

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