Phil, your ban? 15:33 - Jan 28 with 7274 views | Bluefish | Do you feel a change of management team would mean it is forgotten or so you think others would still impose the ban? Do you think the likes of Kieron could play a part to reconnect the fans to the club? |  |
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Phil, your ban? on 23:02 - Jan 28 with 772 views | Swansea_Blue |
Phil, your ban? on 16:22 - Jan 28 by Moriarty | You and me bro. I totally agree. Dyer in. If it does happen, who do you think would be assistant? TB? |
I wouldn’t give the assistant job to Toilet Blue. He’d be forever going on in pressers about trimming his Mrs’ bush, and other such nonsense. |  |
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Phil, your ban? on 08:53 - Jan 29 with 576 views | ArnieM |
Phil, your ban? on 22:49 - Jan 28 by davblue | For him he wouldn’t turn it down, but I think For his career there would be better choices at this time. In the current structure I think we need more than a manager and for someone as inexperienced as Kieron it would be a big, big job. He would bring the fans back onside that’s obviously a big thing. It wouldn’t surprise me with trends around the world for appointing favoured son. Would take some massive balls on Evans’ part. Would like to see Dyer be a massive success here. |
Personally, I just don’t see KD anywhere near ready for the role at Town. He has no managerial experience in the senior game. If he was an outsider to the Club, how would fans react to Evans offering him the job at this stage in his limited managerial career? There’d be uproar wouldn’t there. For me this is just romantic film flam, al9mg the “ he’s one of our own” crap. It doesn’t win you games or promotion- and we MUST achieve both, in what’s left of this season. |  |
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Phil, your ban? on 08:58 - Jan 29 with 567 views | itfcjoe |
Phil, your ban? on 08:53 - Jan 29 by ArnieM | Personally, I just don’t see KD anywhere near ready for the role at Town. He has no managerial experience in the senior game. If he was an outsider to the Club, how would fans react to Evans offering him the job at this stage in his limited managerial career? There’d be uproar wouldn’t there. For me this is just romantic film flam, al9mg the “ he’s one of our own” crap. It doesn’t win you games or promotion- and we MUST achieve both, in what’s left of this season. |
He's not an outsider to the club, he's someone who has worked with the 16s, 18s and 23s and knows the club intimately and knows the area of the club that has been performing well over this time - has good relationships with the staff and players etc. I'm not saying it makes him the right man, but he's not just an outsider step in and that makes a big difference |  |
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Phil, your ban? on 09:06 - Jan 29 with 540 views | ArnieM |
Phil, your ban? on 08:58 - Jan 29 by itfcjoe | He's not an outsider to the club, he's someone who has worked with the 16s, 18s and 23s and knows the club intimately and knows the area of the club that has been performing well over this time - has good relationships with the staff and players etc. I'm not saying it makes him the right man, but he's not just an outsider step in and that makes a big difference |
I said , IF Evans ever offered the job to an outsider who had Dyers current credentials......the uproar would be emended in here . But just because KD IS an insider , people assume he’d be up for the job. All I’m saying is, I think he lacks anywhere near the EXPERIENCE in managing a senior squad, in fact he has none. Yet people ( romantically IMO), think he will take us up, just because he’s “ one of our own”. Sorry, but I just don’t buy it. That doesn’t mean to say I wouldn’t want this to happen. In fact I’d LOVE it to happen. But it’s expecting too much of him at this stage in his non playing career. |  |
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Phil, your ban? on 09:10 - Jan 29 with 534 views | itfcjoe |
Phil, your ban? on 09:06 - Jan 29 by ArnieM | I said , IF Evans ever offered the job to an outsider who had Dyers current credentials......the uproar would be emended in here . But just because KD IS an insider , people assume he’d be up for the job. All I’m saying is, I think he lacks anywhere near the EXPERIENCE in managing a senior squad, in fact he has none. Yet people ( romantically IMO), think he will take us up, just because he’s “ one of our own”. Sorry, but I just don’t buy it. That doesn’t mean to say I wouldn’t want this to happen. In fact I’d LOVE it to happen. But it’s expecting too much of him at this stage in his non playing career. |
But an outsider with those credentials simply wouldn't be offered the job so it's comparing apples and oranges - but when Lampard and Parker were two of the names linked when Mick went there wasn't outrage about those 2 links. I personally think this season, and the stage we are at, is too important to go with a rookie.....but if Evans leaves it another 10 games or so before making the change then I'd be up for seeing them in a caretaker tole with a chance to get it from there. But, assuming Lambert in charge tomorrow, there is still half a season left if he is to be sacked |  |
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Phil, your ban? on 09:10 - Jan 29 with 532 views | hype313 |
Phil, your ban? on 09:06 - Jan 29 by ArnieM | I said , IF Evans ever offered the job to an outsider who had Dyers current credentials......the uproar would be emended in here . But just because KD IS an insider , people assume he’d be up for the job. All I’m saying is, I think he lacks anywhere near the EXPERIENCE in managing a senior squad, in fact he has none. Yet people ( romantically IMO), think he will take us up, just because he’s “ one of our own”. Sorry, but I just don’t buy it. That doesn’t mean to say I wouldn’t want this to happen. In fact I’d LOVE it to happen. But it’s expecting too much of him at this stage in his non playing career. |
Well given we have had a plethora of 'Experienced' managers before, some who even had promotion on their CVs and have failed, then I don't see why Dyer couldn't come in and bring unity, identity and freshness to the squad. |  |
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Phil, your ban? on 09:23 - Jan 29 with 518 views | davblue |
Phil, your ban? on 08:53 - Jan 29 by ArnieM | Personally, I just don’t see KD anywhere near ready for the role at Town. He has no managerial experience in the senior game. If he was an outsider to the Club, how would fans react to Evans offering him the job at this stage in his limited managerial career? There’d be uproar wouldn’t there. For me this is just romantic film flam, al9mg the “ he’s one of our own” crap. It doesn’t win you games or promotion- and we MUST achieve both, in what’s left of this season. |
I'm all for people being given a chance rather than the usual merry go round. I don't think it's the right time for him or the club personally. I think we would be on a hiding to nothing unless he's a brilliant manager who can paper over the cracks at the club. As i said in a previous post, the structure isn't there to support an inexperienced manager let alone an experienced hire. At least with an experienced hire, we would hopefully have someone competent to navigate the choppy waters. |  | |  |
Phil, your ban? on 09:31 - Jan 29 with 500 views | itfcjoe |
Phil, your ban? on 09:23 - Jan 29 by davblue | I'm all for people being given a chance rather than the usual merry go round. I don't think it's the right time for him or the club personally. I think we would be on a hiding to nothing unless he's a brilliant manager who can paper over the cracks at the club. As i said in a previous post, the structure isn't there to support an inexperienced manager let alone an experienced hire. At least with an experienced hire, we would hopefully have someone competent to navigate the choppy waters. |
I wonder if they would be able to helpt the infrastructure, having come from the functioning academy to build it from the ground up |  |
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Phil, your ban? on 09:47 - Jan 29 with 471 views | davblue |
Phil, your ban? on 09:31 - Jan 29 by itfcjoe | I wonder if they would be able to helpt the infrastructure, having come from the functioning academy to build it from the ground up |
Anything that can improve the club would be welcomed. I think we need someone separate from the day to day football side who's going to grab it by the horns and be given the authorisation to make decisions have a budget and get on with it. I just think if we were to appoint Dyer, we need to let him get on with the football side without putting too much on his shoulders. He's going to make mistakes, and putting too much on his shoulders could crush him. |  | |  |
Phil, your ban? on 09:50 - Jan 29 with 461 views | itfcjoe |
Phil, your ban? on 09:47 - Jan 29 by davblue | Anything that can improve the club would be welcomed. I think we need someone separate from the day to day football side who's going to grab it by the horns and be given the authorisation to make decisions have a budget and get on with it. I just think if we were to appoint Dyer, we need to let him get on with the football side without putting too much on his shoulders. He's going to make mistakes, and putting too much on his shoulders could crush him. |
Yep, I just think he has a natural trust and relationship with people at the club like Klug, O'Neill, Nash, Geraint Williams, Butcher etc from the academy side of things who will be able to be more empowered without being seen as a threat which has been the case with Lambert and Hurst Looking objectively, Geraint Williams and Terry Butcher, are 2 people who Kieron has a hell of a lot of time for have hundreds of games of managerial experience between them. |  |
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Phil, your ban? on 09:53 - Jan 29 with 439 views | hype313 |
Phil, your ban? on 09:50 - Jan 29 by itfcjoe | Yep, I just think he has a natural trust and relationship with people at the club like Klug, O'Neill, Nash, Geraint Williams, Butcher etc from the academy side of things who will be able to be more empowered without being seen as a threat which has been the case with Lambert and Hurst Looking objectively, Geraint Williams and Terry Butcher, are 2 people who Kieron has a hell of a lot of time for have hundreds of games of managerial experience between them. |
Joe, I'm only being presumptuous here, but I assume Kieron gets on really well with the majority of the first team squad? |  |
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Phil, your ban? on 09:56 - Jan 29 with 425 views | itfcjoe |
Phil, your ban? on 09:53 - Jan 29 by hype313 | Joe, I'm only being presumptuous here, but I assume Kieron gets on really well with the majority of the first team squad? |
I don't know to be honest, you'd assume he does the senior pros like Chambers and Skuse, plus the youngsters but doubt much relationship with the rest |  |
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Phil, your ban? on 10:02 - Jan 29 with 402 views | davblue |
Phil, your ban? on 09:50 - Jan 29 by itfcjoe | Yep, I just think he has a natural trust and relationship with people at the club like Klug, O'Neill, Nash, Geraint Williams, Butcher etc from the academy side of things who will be able to be more empowered without being seen as a threat which has been the case with Lambert and Hurst Looking objectively, Geraint Williams and Terry Butcher, are 2 people who Kieron has a hell of a lot of time for have hundreds of games of managerial experience between them. |
I was wondering the other day if Simon Milton would have been good in an off the field management role running the football side of things. You are probably more in the know than me but if i recall correctly him and Evans didn't get on but he would have been a good option, knows the club, the culture. You might be onto something, i just want us to be a proper club again, you never really hear good things about us now like to did 15 - 20 years ago, the lights have been well and truly dimmed in recent years. Time for some new light bulbs! |  | |  |
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