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Covid and office working 08:51 - Jan 29 with 3032 viewsHerbivore

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55843506

It looks as though, during the Autumn spike, offices were the main sources of infection and that during lockdown they have continued to be a major source of infections. Given that many office jobs can be done from home these days and many could not reasonably be called essential this adds to the sense that the scale of tragedy in the UK was avoidable.

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Covid and office working on 08:28 - Jan 30 with 389 viewsAce_High1

See this is a tough one.

Of course if people can work from home they should but it is not that black and white.

What about people who struggle without being in the office environment? Maybe they are not as disciplined and struggle not having access to office equipment? I say this as I actually have staff asking me to come in and work from the office.

I also see that during lockdown 1 WFH was new to some people (particularly some older members of staff) and they all adapted well. However as time goes on as an employer you can see WFH fatigue whereby people get a bit bored and disengaged with Teams meetings and the same routine of working from their living room. You can drastically see productivity drop and that "edge" and sharpness drop off - some mistakes get made that never would/have when working in the office.

So my point being, for me personally WFH is fine, I have done it before and could do it for another 10 years, but for some it is not so easy.
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Covid and office working on 08:33 - Jan 30 with 377 viewsHerbivore

Covid and office working on 08:28 - Jan 30 by Ace_High1

See this is a tough one.

Of course if people can work from home they should but it is not that black and white.

What about people who struggle without being in the office environment? Maybe they are not as disciplined and struggle not having access to office equipment? I say this as I actually have staff asking me to come in and work from the office.

I also see that during lockdown 1 WFH was new to some people (particularly some older members of staff) and they all adapted well. However as time goes on as an employer you can see WFH fatigue whereby people get a bit bored and disengaged with Teams meetings and the same routine of working from their living room. You can drastically see productivity drop and that "edge" and sharpness drop off - some mistakes get made that never would/have when working in the office.

So my point being, for me personally WFH is fine, I have done it before and could do it for another 10 years, but for some it is not so easy.
[Post edited 30 Jan 2021 8:28]


None of this is easy. We're in the middle of a pandemic. 100k people have died, that's likely to go up by tens of thousands more. I don't particularly enjoy working from home and I'm looking forward to being able to safely go back into work, but some things are more important than individual wants and productivity levels.

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Covid and office working on 08:33 - Jan 30 with 377 viewsm14_blue

Covid and office working on 08:28 - Jan 30 by Ace_High1

See this is a tough one.

Of course if people can work from home they should but it is not that black and white.

What about people who struggle without being in the office environment? Maybe they are not as disciplined and struggle not having access to office equipment? I say this as I actually have staff asking me to come in and work from the office.

I also see that during lockdown 1 WFH was new to some people (particularly some older members of staff) and they all adapted well. However as time goes on as an employer you can see WFH fatigue whereby people get a bit bored and disengaged with Teams meetings and the same routine of working from their living room. You can drastically see productivity drop and that "edge" and sharpness drop off - some mistakes get made that never would/have when working in the office.

So my point being, for me personally WFH is fine, I have done it before and could do it for another 10 years, but for some it is not so easy.
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I think that’s all true but right now the priority shouldn’t be doing what’s easy.

Hospitality and several other sectors have had to close, maybe businesses that can’t wfh should do the same? Assuming office areas really are major vectors of infection.
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Covid and office working on 09:18 - Jan 30 with 354 viewsvapour_trail

I don’t understand why office workers would be in offices.

Nobody at our place has been back since March. Well, I’ve been in once. We’ve told all our people this week who can wfh, that is their status until Sept at the earliest.

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Covid and office working on 09:53 - Jan 30 with 337 views26_Paz

I’m very pleased my office is open. Going in a couple of days a week keeps me sane.

The Paz Man

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Covid and office working on 09:54 - Jan 30 with 339 viewsPinewoodblue

Covid and office working on 09:18 - Jan 30 by vapour_trail

I don’t understand why office workers would be in offices.

Nobody at our place has been back since March. Well, I’ve been in once. We’ve told all our people this week who can wfh, that is their status until Sept at the earliest.


AvIva are closing two offices in Norwich that accommodate 1,500 staff but no redundancies are involved. There are savings to be made with work from home.
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Covid and office working on 09:56 - Jan 30 with 334 viewsHerbivore

Covid and office working on 09:53 - Jan 30 by 26_Paz

I’m very pleased my office is open. Going in a couple of days a week keeps me sane.


Paz only caring about himself, what a shocker.

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Covid and office working on 10:08 - Jan 30 with 322 viewsDubtractor

Covid and office working on 08:33 - Jan 30 by Herbivore

None of this is easy. We're in the middle of a pandemic. 100k people have died, that's likely to go up by tens of thousands more. I don't particularly enjoy working from home and I'm looking forward to being able to safely go back into work, but some things are more important than individual wants and productivity levels.


Yep. All of this.

I'm utterly fed up with home working full time and the incessant teams meetings and relentless tide of emails, but accept that this isn't going to change for a while yet.

And more than that, this way of working is here to stay, in some form or other. Lots of talk about splitting time between office and home work at my place.

Glad I haven't got my millions invested in office buildings.

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Covid and office working on 10:33 - Jan 30 with 304 viewsvapour_trail

Covid and office working on 09:53 - Jan 30 by 26_Paz

I’m very pleased my office is open. Going in a couple of days a week keeps me sane.


I do get this as well. I’m sick and tired of being at home every day. Is what it is though.

Edit: should add, our office space is available for those who need it because home environment and mental health doesn’t make wfh a viable option.
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Covid and office working on 10:34 - Jan 30 with 297 views26_Paz

Covid and office working on 09:56 - Jan 30 by Herbivore

Paz only caring about himself, what a shocker.


It’s all Covid secure and does no harm no anyone, plus there’s some stuff I just can’t do at home, it’s not possible.

The Paz Man

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Covid and office working on 11:13 - Jan 30 with 279 viewsm14_blue

Covid and office working on 10:34 - Jan 30 by 26_Paz

It’s all Covid secure and does no harm no anyone, plus there’s some stuff I just can’t do at home, it’s not possible.


I get that and totally understand. I’m working from home at the moment and don’t like it at all.

However, the point is that whole industries have been forced to close in order to slow the spread. If there’s evidence of offices being vectors then they should also be closed, regardless of whether people can work from home 100% as effectively as they can in the office. We’re all having to make sacrifices.
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