Watching The Dig 19:04 - Jan 30 with 1992 views | Keno | Fiennes ‘es accsent that ain’t that bad that be tho ain’t as good like Joohn Thaws were in goodnight mr tom |  |
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Watching The Dig on 19:06 - Jan 30 with 1617 views | stringy | bloomin' well should be a decent accent given that he's an Ipswich boy going to rewatch it tonight; bit too much red wine by second half Basil Brown real here; in '89 we got to excavate the rest of the villa he dug at Whitton which was pretty special (the one whose mosaic is in front of the museum) |  | |  |
Watching The Dig on 19:11 - Jan 30 with 1583 views | Keno |
Watching The Dig on 19:06 - Jan 30 by stringy | bloomin' well should be a decent accent given that he's an Ipswich boy going to rewatch it tonight; bit too much red wine by second half Basil Brown real here; in '89 we got to excavate the rest of the villa he dug at Whitton which was pretty special (the one whose mosaic is in front of the museum) |
I’d forgotten he was born in Ipswich |  |
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Watching The Dig on 19:17 - Jan 30 with 1559 views | stringy |
Watching The Dig on 19:11 - Jan 30 by Keno | I’d forgotten he was born in Ipswich |
Through a connection he was meant to quietly come and spend a day digging with us at Freston in summer of 2019 to help prep his work for The Dig but alas (much to the chagrin of my female team members) he was stuck filming James Bond... oh well |  | |  |
Watching The Dig on 19:23 - Jan 30 with 1529 views | Keno |
Watching The Dig on 19:17 - Jan 30 by stringy | Through a connection he was meant to quietly come and spend a day digging with us at Freston in summer of 2019 to help prep his work for The Dig but alas (much to the chagrin of my female team members) he was stuck filming James Bond... oh well |
A day in Freston or a day filming James Bomd - tough choice I expect he had a contract that stopped him coming |  |
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Watching The Dig on 19:33 - Jan 30 with 1485 views | stringy |
Watching The Dig on 19:23 - Jan 30 by Keno | A day in Freston or a day filming James Bomd - tough choice I expect he had a contract that stopped him coming |
that's what we told ourselves; disappointed not to be able to quote Curse of the Wererabbit stuff at him (cue eye rolls from students besotted with the Harry Potter stuff) |  | |  |
Watching The Dig on 19:39 - Jan 30 with 1468 views | Keno |
Watching The Dig on 19:33 - Jan 30 by stringy | that's what we told ourselves; disappointed not to be able to quote Curse of the Wererabbit stuff at him (cue eye rolls from students besotted with the Harry Potter stuff) |
I’ve have gone were-rabbit!! Do I take it you are an archeologist? |  |
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Watching The Dig on 19:41 - Jan 30 with 1450 views | JDB23 | Is it actually any good? Doesn't look like something I'd usually watch but probably will just due to the local connection. |  | |  |
Watching The Dig on 19:43 - Jan 30 with 1439 views | noggin |
Watching The Dig on 19:41 - Jan 30 by JDB23 | Is it actually any good? Doesn't look like something I'd usually watch but probably will just due to the local connection. |
It was ok. Probably more suited to a Sunday evening series type thing. |  |
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Watching The Dig on 19:45 - Jan 30 with 1429 views | Keno |
Watching The Dig on 19:43 - Jan 30 by noggin | It was ok. Probably more suited to a Sunday evening series type thing. |
It’s ok, bit draggy in places It would benefit from some tits and dragons |  |
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Watching The Dig on 19:52 - Jan 30 with 1404 views | Vic | Just finished watching it. Fiennes accent is OK, it slips a few times. Most authentic, IMO, is his wife’s. Not sure what the romantic couple was all about or added really. Nice film, a few lovely shots - I wonder how many times Ramsholt church has been seen in a film? One of my favorite places - love walking around there. No more spoilers! |  |
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Watching The Dig on 19:54 - Jan 30 with 1390 views | stringy |
Watching The Dig on 19:39 - Jan 30 by Keno | I’ve have gone were-rabbit!! Do I take it you are an archeologist? |
yep; worked for the Suffolk Archaeological Unit back in the Duncan/Lyall days (so I got to see all home games, top times) but now based in academia in Canada but just started up a new project close to home: https://socialsciences.mcmaster.ca/freston-archaeological-research-mission-farm |  | |  |
Watching The Dig on 19:56 - Jan 30 with 1362 views | Fixed_It | Admit it - you misread the preview and thought it was a film about dogging, didn't you?!! |  |
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Watching The Dig on 19:58 - Jan 30 with 1352 views | noggin |
Watching The Dig on 19:45 - Jan 30 by Keno | It’s ok, bit draggy in places It would benefit from some tits and dragons |
Dragons? |  |
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Watching The Dig on 20:01 - Jan 30 with 1346 views | MaySixth | Just watched it over a couple of glasses of red. Gentle, takes it time - probably not a Saturday night film. Some beautiful shots |  |
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Watching The Dig on 20:02 - Jan 30 with 1344 views | Keno |
Oh wow!! I’m very impressed!! Have you had the chance to much digging over there? I’m intrigued by the whole pre Clovis theories and where the Americas were colonised from |  |
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Watching The Dig on 20:03 - Jan 30 with 1337 views | Keno |
Watching The Dig on 19:58 - Jan 30 by noggin | Dragons? |
Maybe not dragons, I was thinking of the games of thrones quote I did realise Lily James is in it |  |
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Watching The Dig on 20:05 - Jan 30 with 1330 views | Keno |
Watching The Dig on 19:56 - Jan 30 by Fixed_It | Admit it - you misread the preview and thought it was a film about dogging, didn't you?!! |
Why would I want to watch people walking their dogs |  |
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Watching The Dig on 20:08 - Jan 30 with 1325 views | stringy |
Watching The Dig on 20:02 - Jan 30 by Keno | Oh wow!! I’m very impressed!! Have you had the chance to much digging over there? I’m intrigued by the whole pre Clovis theories and where the Americas were colonised from |
No while I've worked in North America (California then here) since 2000 I've never engaged really with local projects; I teach the Peopling of the Americas stuff for the intro course so know a bit about the pre-Clovis stuff and have a mate who works on it - those either side of the debate are madly entrenched I think it will go real early at some point; Americas are really late to kick off in grand scheme of things - seriously if Homo sapiens can cross water to get to Australia around 60,000 years ago but no one mooches over Beringia til 18k, pfff most of my work is actually in Greece doing Neanderthal and other stuff of late: www.stelida.org |  | |  |
Watching The Dig on 20:22 - Jan 30 with 1265 views | Keno |
Watching The Dig on 20:08 - Jan 30 by stringy | No while I've worked in North America (California then here) since 2000 I've never engaged really with local projects; I teach the Peopling of the Americas stuff for the intro course so know a bit about the pre-Clovis stuff and have a mate who works on it - those either side of the debate are madly entrenched I think it will go real early at some point; Americas are really late to kick off in grand scheme of things - seriously if Homo sapiens can cross water to get to Australia around 60,000 years ago but no one mooches over Beringia til 18k, pfff most of my work is actually in Greece doing Neanderthal and other stuff of late: www.stelida.org |
I’ve read it’s a very heated debate and arnt there even some thoughts of some Solutrean arrivals much earlier than Clovis Even thoughts on Neanderthals have changed a lot of late haven’t they |  |
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Watching The Dig on 20:27 - Jan 30 with 1239 views | stringy |
Watching The Dig on 20:22 - Jan 30 by Keno | I’ve read it’s a very heated debate and arnt there even some thoughts of some Solutrean arrivals much earlier than Clovis Even thoughts on Neanderthals have changed a lot of late haven’t they |
The Solutrean theory seems to have fizzled out a bit; impressive links between the spearhead technologies, and the idea that 'oh if everyone's coming from Siberia how come the oldest sites are on the east coast' is kinda seductive but there's a bit of a time difference between the French and US data also - alas - it gets mixed up in politics (first Americans were Europeans! and the possible negative impact on indigenous peoples/rights). Neanderthals / early humans in general; textbooks are out of date by the time the ink dries. Mad stuff, super interesting and the genetic data is rewriting so much (ditto Denisovans) |  | |  |
Watching The Dig on 20:32 - Jan 30 with 1226 views | Keno |
Watching The Dig on 20:27 - Jan 30 by stringy | The Solutrean theory seems to have fizzled out a bit; impressive links between the spearhead technologies, and the idea that 'oh if everyone's coming from Siberia how come the oldest sites are on the east coast' is kinda seductive but there's a bit of a time difference between the French and US data also - alas - it gets mixed up in politics (first Americans were Europeans! and the possible negative impact on indigenous peoples/rights). Neanderthals / early humans in general; textbooks are out of date by the time the ink dries. Mad stuff, super interesting and the genetic data is rewriting so much (ditto Denisovans) |
I guess the advances in the science of genetics are having to mak3 guys like you rethink a lot! The concept of “human” isn’t as straightforward as it might seem |  |
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Watching The Dig on 20:37 - Jan 30 with 1208 views | stringy |
Watching The Dig on 20:32 - Jan 30 by Keno | I guess the advances in the science of genetics are having to mak3 guys like you rethink a lot! The concept of “human” isn’t as straightforward as it might seem |
it's huge and in the right places can go back to about 400,000 years old as with the Homo heidelbergensis stuff from Atapuerca in Spain (which is key, the whole preservation issues - needs to be nice and cool, hence the fact that we have precious little ancient DNA from Africa) human - well there's attempts at defining via behaviour rather than anatomy but the waters get muddy quick once upon a time there were various things that in theory only we (Homo sapiens) did which by extent were taken as indexical of behavioural modernity / 'winning strategies' evolutionarily: art, burial of the dead, language, seafaring - *all* of which are now (occasionally) associated with Neanderthals and earlier populations. So not so black and white. |  | |  |
Watching The Dig on 20:54 - Jan 30 with 1170 views | Keno |
Watching The Dig on 20:37 - Jan 30 by stringy | it's huge and in the right places can go back to about 400,000 years old as with the Homo heidelbergensis stuff from Atapuerca in Spain (which is key, the whole preservation issues - needs to be nice and cool, hence the fact that we have precious little ancient DNA from Africa) human - well there's attempts at defining via behaviour rather than anatomy but the waters get muddy quick once upon a time there were various things that in theory only we (Homo sapiens) did which by extent were taken as indexical of behavioural modernity / 'winning strategies' evolutionarily: art, burial of the dead, language, seafaring - *all* of which are now (occasionally) associated with Neanderthals and earlier populations. So not so black and white. |
It feels a bit like the debates over how much did the vikings invade and wholesale take over places like Britain displacing the local populations or live alongside and “blend” From what gather there seems to be much more blending of the early humanoids Really interesting subject |  |
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Watching The Dig on 21:09 - Jan 30 with 1138 views | stringy |
Watching The Dig on 20:54 - Jan 30 by Keno | It feels a bit like the debates over how much did the vikings invade and wholesale take over places like Britain displacing the local populations or live alongside and “blend” From what gather there seems to be much more blending of the early humanoids Really interesting subject |
The main issue with genetics (IMHO) is that a lot of it is super sexy impactful stuff which means it get published in Nature or Science (the best journals out there) who have very short article limits so you end up with these simple headline grabbing stories rather than the nuanced discussion we need. Not so up on Viking stuff, but for the start of farming in Britain about 4000 BC (which is what we're interested in via the Freston work) it no seems that the whole farming 'package' was introduced by migrant populations from the continent and they eventually largely replaced the indigenous hunter-gatherers and then the same thing (population replacement) happens when the so-called Beaker folk come in around 2500 BC |  | |  |
Watching The Dig on 21:19 - Jan 30 with 1106 views | hype313 |
Watching The Dig on 19:52 - Jan 30 by Vic | Just finished watching it. Fiennes accent is OK, it slips a few times. Most authentic, IMO, is his wife’s. Not sure what the romantic couple was all about or added really. Nice film, a few lovely shots - I wonder how many times Ramsholt church has been seen in a film? One of my favorite places - love walking around there. No more spoilers! |
I concur, just finished it, was nice and warming, but not exactly edge of the seat stuff, which is to be expected. Yeah that couple was a bit odd, didn't really add to much. I suppose if you have been to the site and walked around the house then you probably didn't learn that much, but obviously lots haven't. Sad story about the family, the fact that the son never returned and died relatively young was sad to read. |  |
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