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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ 16:22 - Apr 22 with 1452 viewswkj

Why does this fact seem to be overlooked?

- Lambert had a strong start
- Lambert started to slide
- Town's medical department has long been a laughing stock by all
- A bunch of the players have routinely played better in the past
- We just had a half-season hiatus

Fair enough. the last one applies to all - but the medical and sports science department being a joke has not been a common issue for many clubs as long as it has been for us.

That and apathy from the players... this isn't a problem that Cook or anyone can fix until the summer.

[Post edited 22 Apr 18:23]

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:23 - Apr 22 with 1174 viewsBlueWorldOrder

But hasn't Cook been running them ragged since he arrived?

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:24 - Apr 22 with 1183 viewswkj

πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:23 - Apr 22 by BlueWorldOrder

But hasn't Cook been running them ragged since he arrived?


I am sure he's been conducting training, yes.

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:24 - Apr 22 with 1185 viewsStokieBlue

πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:23 - Apr 22 by BlueWorldOrder

But hasn't Cook been running them ragged since he arrived?


Not really no.

In fact given the fixture congestion due to C19 he's had less training sessions that one would normally get after taking over.

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:25 - Apr 22 with 1178 viewsfooters

What's a manager supposed to do when he rocks up at a club and the players don't even have the minimum requirement of fitness? These are professional athletes FFS and, as you say my old fruit, our standards have been set far too low for many moons.

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:25 - Apr 22 with 1153 viewsBlueWorldOrder

πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:24 - Apr 22 by StokieBlue

Not really no.

In fact given the fixture congestion due to C19 he's had less training sessions that one would normally get after taking over.

SB


So what was the rumour they had to go home they were so unfit then? Made up?

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:25 - Apr 22 with 1171 viewsSpruceMoose

πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:24 - Apr 22 by StokieBlue

Not really no.

In fact given the fixture congestion due to C19 he's had less training sessions that one would normally get after taking over.

SB


Get out of here, you and your sensible takes. Some posters aren't looking for that. They live for the meltdown.

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:26 - Apr 22 with 1162 viewsIllinoisblue

Very literally we have a squad not fit to wear the shirt

62 - 78 - 81

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:27 - Apr 22 with 1148 viewsfooters

πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:24 - Apr 22 by StokieBlue

Not really no.

In fact given the fixture congestion due to C19 he's had less training sessions that one would normally get after taking over.

SB


He also stressed how important pre-season is to him. And I think I'm right in saying that this is his first appointment while a season's underway? New territory for him if he's not in the firefighter mould of manager.

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:27 - Apr 22 with 1148 viewswkj

πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:25 - Apr 22 by BlueWorldOrder

So what was the rumour they had to go home they were so unfit then? Made up?


Generally that is what rumours tend to be, made up.

The squad aren't match fit. Watch footage from the first month, then watch the footage from the last month Lambert was in charge. We may have got a few wins at the end but no one can claim they were on the back of a decisive performance.

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:29 - Apr 22 with 1130 viewsStokieBlue

πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:25 - Apr 22 by BlueWorldOrder

So what was the rumour they had to go home they were so unfit then? Made up?


That doesn't have anything to do with what I posted.

In fact you've managed to counter your initial post.

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:31 - Apr 22 with 1089 viewsBlueWorldOrder

πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:29 - Apr 22 by StokieBlue

That doesn't have anything to do with what I posted.

In fact you've managed to counter your initial post.

SB


Counter what?

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:37 - Apr 22 with 1067 viewsStokieBlue

πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:31 - Apr 22 by BlueWorldOrder

Counter what?


"But hasn't Cook been running them ragged since he arrived?"

The implication is that he's been training them hard so they should be fit.

"So what was the rumour they had to go home they were so unfit then? Made up?"

The implication is that they aren't fit and thus were sent home.

So your second post contradicts your first and if your second post is true then you're agreeing with the opening post.

SB

β€œYou may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energyβ€”enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:39 - Apr 22 with 1047 viewsfooters

πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:37 - Apr 22 by StokieBlue

"But hasn't Cook been running them ragged since he arrived?"

The implication is that he's been training them hard so they should be fit.

"So what was the rumour they had to go home they were so unfit then? Made up?"

The implication is that they aren't fit and thus were sent home.

So your second post contradicts your first and if your second post is true then you're agreeing with the opening post.

SB


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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:41 - Apr 22 with 1034 viewsSpruceMoose

πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:39 - Apr 22 by footers

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:42 - Apr 22 with 1020 viewsBlueWorldOrder

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No need to attack me over it. I am autistic and really struggle to articulate myself sometimes. Ipswich Town is my life, you may have a better life than me and more to it but that gives you no right to belittle me because I'm different to you. We should all be able to exist in the same space without being attacked.

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:48 - Apr 22 with 990 viewsHerbivore

πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:42 - Apr 22 by BlueWorldOrder

No need to attack me over it. I am autistic and really struggle to articulate myself sometimes. Ipswich Town is my life, you may have a better life than me and more to it but that gives you no right to belittle me because I'm different to you. We should all be able to exist in the same space without being attacked.


Ignore him, mate. He's a right bellend.

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:49 - Apr 22 with 985 viewswkj

πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:42 - Apr 22 by BlueWorldOrder

No need to attack me over it. I am autistic and really struggle to articulate myself sometimes. Ipswich Town is my life, you may have a better life than me and more to it but that gives you no right to belittle me because I'm different to you. We should all be able to exist in the same space without being attacked.


To be honest you've come on here this afternoon with a bee under your bonnet and gone on a massive scatter shot of vitriol toward a manager who has had no long term interjection on the squad. It's going to rattle a few folks who just want to let the ghosts of the past 13 years be put to rest and the new season to begin.

Be skeptical of Cook, absolutely - but know that a lot of what he's failed at so far would likely have been failed at by any manger we'd have bought in.

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:49 - Apr 22 with 973 viewsfooters

πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:48 - Apr 22 by Herbivore

Ignore him, mate. He's a right bellend.


That's true. And I like Morrissey.

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:52 - Apr 22 with 954 viewsfooters

πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:42 - Apr 22 by BlueWorldOrder

No need to attack me over it. I am autistic and really struggle to articulate myself sometimes. Ipswich Town is my life, you may have a better life than me and more to it but that gives you no right to belittle me because I'm different to you. We should all be able to exist in the same space without being attacked.


Calm down, dear. If you come on to a football messageboard and post strong opinions about something you're likely to get some strong opinions back. And if you think my little quip was bullying, then I'm afraid to tell you it gets much worse than that.

And fwiw, my life is terrible.

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 17:01 - Apr 22 with 911 viewsHerbivore

πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:49 - Apr 22 by footers

That's true. And I like Morrissey.


Kicking you out of the lefty bumfest was the best call we ever made. Spruce can finally walk properly again as well.

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 17:02 - Apr 22 with 904 viewsSpruceMoose

πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 17:01 - Apr 22 by Herbivore

Kicking you out of the lefty bumfest was the best call we ever made. Spruce can finally walk properly again as well.


My mental injuries are now my main problem.

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Kicking you out of the lefty bumfest was the best call we ever made. Spruce can finally walk properly again as well.


Not forgetting my Noel Edmonds book collection (two). With his advice I don't need you Trotskyite bullies, for I am...



It's the best self-help book out there, especially if you believe in energy orbs and like twin-engine helicopters.

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 17:07 - Apr 22 with 874 viewsSpruceMoose

πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 17:04 - Apr 22 by footers

Not forgetting my Noel Edmonds book collection (two). With his advice I don't need you Trotskyite bullies, for I am...



It's the best self-help book out there, especially if you believe in energy orbs and like twin-engine helicopters.


I'll stick to my Andy McNabbs thank you.

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 17:40 - Apr 22 with 781 viewspointofblue

πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 16:25 - Apr 22 by footers

What's a manager supposed to do when he rocks up at a club and the players don't even have the minimum requirement of fitness? These are professional athletes FFS and, as you say my old fruit, our standards have been set far too low for many moons.


I think it’s a little more complex than that - for the most part I imagine they’re fit. If they went to the gym they could do a reasonable amount of cardio and weight training. What they are not is match fit; in other words the extra pressures a football match exerts on the body - and that is down to Lambert, possibly Jim Henry and the sports science team if we even have one. Match fitness comes from the correct type of training and it’s becoming increasingly obvious that they have lacked this approach for the last two and a half years.

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πŸ‘ The πŸ‘ Players πŸ‘ Are πŸ‘ Not πŸ‘ Fit πŸ‘ on 17:40 - Apr 22 by pointofblue

I think it’s a little more complex than that - for the most part I imagine they’re fit. If they went to the gym they could do a reasonable amount of cardio and weight training. What they are not is match fit; in other words the extra pressures a football match exerts on the body - and that is down to Lambert, possibly Jim Henry and the sports science team if we even have one. Match fitness comes from the correct type of training and it’s becoming increasingly obvious that they have lacked this approach for the last two and a half years.


Oh for sure. It's been going on for years and that was sort of my point, perhaps too briefly explained. Do you remember the quote from one of the fitness bods under MM who said the older pros know their bodies so don't need to be told what to do? That's the level of unprofessionalism we've had about the club for donkey's. That must change.

Who knows, it might even help with our constant injury situation.

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