| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 09:58 - May 29 with 1496 views | Deano69 |
| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 21:07 - May 27 by jeera |
Anyone saying they want to address poverty in this country whilst ignoring the absurdity of inflated property prices is dishonest.
It's at the core of everything that is wrong, when the average person cannot afford their own home. |
Same as lifting the minimum/living wage, it has nothing to do with improving poverty. Everything increases in price accordingly, long term purchases such as housing distorts even more proportionally.
The welfare state and benefits needs an almighty reboot. We seem to have some families households that have no one that has worked for years test run cars and have annual holidays yet some can barely afford to eat. Same for those trying to juggle working with state assistance.
Poverty is always a difficult subject to define too. Is a roof over your head, clean running water and one good meal a day poverty? Is poverty disguised through credit/lending?
Tricky one for sure. I know in the 70’s as a family my parents often went without a main meal while make sure the kids were fed and they both worked bloody hard too. |  |
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| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 11:00 - May 29 with 1459 views | bluejacko |
| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 09:26 - May 29 by noggin |
Britain also has those things but doesn't look after it's people. |
In that case stop giving to countries that don’t need it and spend it here.
Not hard to understand is it? |  | | |
| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 11:06 - May 29 with 1449 views | footers |
| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 11:00 - May 29 by bluejacko |
In that case stop giving to countries that don’t need it and spend it here.
Not hard to understand is it? |
Foreign aid isn't about handouts. The foreign aid budget is there to advance British commercial interests and soft power abroad. |  |
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| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 11:08 - May 29 with 1442 views | Darth_Koont |
| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 11:00 - May 29 by bluejacko |
In that case stop giving to countries that don’t need it and spend it here.
Not hard to understand is it? |
But we won’t, will we?
Because too many people think this is the way the world works. Spoiler alert: It doesn’t. This is our choice. |  |
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| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 11:25 - May 29 with 1409 views | Darth_Koont |
Taxpayers Alliance?!!
Jesus wept. | |
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| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 11:26 - May 29 with 1395 views | 26_Paz |
| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 11:06 - May 29 by footers |
Foreign aid isn't about handouts. The foreign aid budget is there to advance British commercial interests and soft power abroad. |
What does ‘soft power’ actually mean? |  |
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| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 11:33 - May 29 with 1387 views | chicoazul |
| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 11:25 - May 29 by Darth_Koont |
Taxpayers Alliance?!!
Jesus wept. |
You doubt their figures? |  |
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| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 11:37 - May 29 with 1373 views | Darth_Koont |
| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 11:33 - May 29 by chicoazul |
You doubt their figures? |
No, I doubt the logic of getting rid of taxes.
The Taxpayers Alliance and similar are the ones with their boot on the neck of the poor. Their logic and lobbying created austerity and the massive inequality in society today. | |
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| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 11:40 - May 29 with 1358 views | chicoazul |
| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 11:37 - May 29 by Darth_Koont |
No, I doubt the logic of getting rid of taxes.
The Taxpayers Alliance and similar are the ones with their boot on the neck of the poor. Their logic and lobbying created austerity and the massive inequality in society today. |
I didn’t say anything about getting rid of taxes. I said maybe this awful government that everyone tells me here is so right wing could think about taxing poor people less. I agree with your second paragraph in full. | |
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| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 11:47 - May 29 with 1347 views | Darth_Koont |
| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 11:40 - May 29 by chicoazul |
I didn’t say anything about getting rid of taxes. I said maybe this awful government that everyone tells me here is so right wing could think about taxing poor people less. I agree with your second paragraph in full. |
Alternatively, you leave tax as a tax at source and you tax richer people’s wealth more. Thereby generating the money to support the poorest people’s individual income deficit and to enable the social and economic investment that provides long-term solutions for them and their communities.
That’s what proper civilised and developed countries do. Removing tax is the least progressive approach. | |
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| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 11:55 - May 29 with 1316 views | 26_Paz |
All sounds a bit wooly to me. I’m not sure giving people money is a hugely effective way of getting them to do what you want. | |
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| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 12:03 - May 29 with 1310 views | Darth_Koont |
| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 11:55 - May 29 by 26_Paz |
All sounds a bit wooly to me. I’m not sure giving people money is a hugely effective way of getting them to do what you want. |
That’s literally the major pillar of the global economy and society (and our own).
But sure, how would that work? | |
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| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 12:19 - May 29 with 1284 views | Radlett_blue |
If everyone understood that the original definition of poverty had been replaced by a relative one which is more a description of inequality, I would be more concerned by such reports.
Yes, Britain has become too unequal IMO, but how to change this is a hugely complex argument. |  |
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| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 12:33 - May 29 with 1252 views | 26_Paz |
| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 12:03 - May 29 by Darth_Koont |
That’s literally the major pillar of the global economy and society (and our own).
But sure, how would that work? |
If you say to someone I will give you x amount of money if you do y and they agree they will of course do it.
If you give someone x amount of money and then at some point later ask them if they would perhaps kindly do y they are less likely to do it.
I would only be in favour of aid that came with very firm commitments from the recipient for things that would directly promote British interests. | |
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| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 13:03 - May 29 with 1247 views | SpruceMoose |
| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 12:33 - May 29 by 26_Paz |
If you say to someone I will give you x amount of money if you do y and they agree they will of course do it.
If you give someone x amount of money and then at some point later ask them if they would perhaps kindly do y they are less likely to do it.
I would only be in favour of aid that came with very firm commitments from the recipient for things that would directly promote British interests. |
Conservative interests you mean. |  |
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| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 13:26 - May 29 with 1203 views | footers |
| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 12:33 - May 29 by 26_Paz |
If you say to someone I will give you x amount of money if you do y and they agree they will of course do it.
If you give someone x amount of money and then at some point later ask them if they would perhaps kindly do y they are less likely to do it.
I would only be in favour of aid that came with very firm commitments from the recipient for things that would directly promote British interests. |
The world is a very black and white place to you, isn't it?
Without our use of soft power we wouldn't have been able to lure Soviet defectors over to our side. The information we were able to gain even in this very specific time were instrumental to the west winning the cold war.
But in Paz world this wouldn't have happened.
There are literally thousands of examples where soft power has been the deciding factor in international relations. Any basic understand of international politics would tell you that. | |
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| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 13:29 - May 29 with 1202 views | Darth_Koont |
| 1 in 3 youngsters in Ipswich suffer from child poverty on 12:33 - May 29 by 26_Paz |
If you say to someone I will give you x amount of money if you do y and they agree they will of course do it.
If you give someone x amount of money and then at some point later ask them if they would perhaps kindly do y they are less likely to do it.
I would only be in favour of aid that came with very firm commitments from the recipient for things that would directly promote British interests. |
But in under-developed countries they don’t have much beyond the raw materials and produce we already buy. There it is an investment in future potential and value, politically and economically.
It’s like investing in any start-up. | |
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