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Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. 16:07 - Nov 24 with 4266 viewsMeenoITFC

'Ipswich won't be far off, that is if Cooky realises playing Bonne up front on his own doesn't work. I expected a lot more from the Tractor Boys, we made them look average at best'

'Ipswich had loads of posession, but very little threat. They will do well to get anywhere near the playéoffs under Cook.'

'Excellent team performance against a strangely goal shy Ipswich team, they have arguably the best squad in the league on paper, but looked very ordinary tonight, or was it more a case of we made them look ordinary tonight?'

'Cooke will get them into the play offs, because with that squad he should'

'Ipswich and Paul Cook did us a favour by playing 4-2-3-1, we outplayed, out -fought and out-thought them. Stop Sam Morsey and you stop Ipswich'

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Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 21:14 - Nov 24 with 750 viewsSkip_Intro

Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 16:10 - Nov 24 by chrismakin

Morsy like all the others, Started off impressing. Now he looks like a similar version of dozzell. amazingly lightweight on the ball, not as hard tackling as I thought he was, doesn't go forward, well his body does, the ball comes back. When he joined he drove the team forward and altho his game isn't to put in killer balls.. he seems reluctant to press forward now and reverts to safe side ways football or bring it back edmundson.

Edited again as people.try to take posts to literal.
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are you seriously comparing Morsy to Dozzell??
Morsy's strength and body shape on the ball is excellent, especially at this level...he rarely gives it away and turns well to get away from players...
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Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 21:20 - Nov 24 with 732 viewschrismakin

Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 21:14 - Nov 24 by Skip_Intro

are you seriously comparing Morsy to Dozzell??
Morsy's strength and body shape on the ball is excellent, especially at this level...he rarely gives it away and turns well to get away from players...


Nope.

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Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 21:27 - Nov 24 with 716 viewsSkip_Intro

Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 21:20 - Nov 24 by chrismakin

Nope.


you literally just did...
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Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 21:35 - Nov 24 with 697 viewschrismakin

Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 21:27 - Nov 24 by Skip_Intro

you literally just did...


No you just failed to read the rest of the thread before jumping In.

It is possible to use someone's faults to describe someone's current faults without it being a comparison of the player overall.

You know when someone reminds you of a certain player. You're not comparing them. Just certain attributes are similar so good to use as an example.

I could have used downes I suppose. Or even skuse but then you knew what you got with them dozzells faults were always like a marmite discussion.. strength on the ball etc

And then the last time I mentioned morsy dropping deep to get the ball like skuse i was then apparently comparing those two.
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Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 22:10 - Nov 24 with 645 viewsStokieBlue

Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 20:49 - Nov 24 by chrismakin

Not at all stokie. You just fail to see a fault in players unless you specifically don't like them and then we hear all about. Which happens all all fan sites. I had to change it as you again took my post alot further than intended.

The OPS comment stated morsy was effectively the difference in town winning or losing. I was just pointing out that since his debut he hasn't shown the same performance and yes you're right he does things right at times. Of course otherwise he wouldn't have been a champ player. But there are plenty of examples of him doing exactly what I stated above too. At present as a midfielder in the two. He's doing alot of what dozzell did. Getting forward himself but then finding a way to play a pass backwards or sideways rather than forwards. Nothing wrong with that at times. But it became very frustrating last night and again its not the first time.

There's no need to believe every player signed is fantastic. You wouldn't take it that Edwards didn't do things. You didn't take it celina didn't do things. You now don't take it morsy doesn't do certain things consistently. Do you find fault in any player or only if you think of it first?


"There's no need to believe every player signed is fantastic. You wouldn't take it that Edwards didn't do things. You didn't take it celina didn't do things. You now don't take it morsy doesn't do certain things consistently. Do you find fault in any player or only if you think of it first?"

This is nothing like you said. You just keep modifying your position as more people point out the holes in it. It's rather pathetic to be honest.

The sensible thing here is to not post ridiculous hot takes in the first place which are clearly contradicted by the evidence.

SB
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Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 22:42 - Nov 24 with 616 viewschrismakin

Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 22:10 - Nov 24 by StokieBlue

"There's no need to believe every player signed is fantastic. You wouldn't take it that Edwards didn't do things. You didn't take it celina didn't do things. You now don't take it morsy doesn't do certain things consistently. Do you find fault in any player or only if you think of it first?"

This is nothing like you said. You just keep modifying your position as more people point out the holes in it. It's rather pathetic to be honest.

The sensible thing here is to not post ridiculous hot takes in the first place which are clearly contradicted by the evidence.

SB
[Post edited 24 Nov 2021 22:11]


It's exactly what I said. Anyway we've been down this road before and it ends with you getting all high and mighty about what should and shouldn't be posted. So best to end it here and you enjoy every player and I'll continue to judge them as and when I desire.

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Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 22:49 - Nov 24 with 605 viewsStokieBlue

Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 22:42 - Nov 24 by chrismakin

It's exactly what I said. Anyway we've been down this road before and it ends with you getting all high and mighty about what should and shouldn't be posted. So best to end it here and you enjoy every player and I'll continue to judge them as and when I desire.


It's nothing like you said, stop rewriting history.

The problem is you're so desperate to post something you post nonsense and then get upset when people call you out. It's not just me making this point so probably best to look at your own posts rather than pointing fingers elsewhere.

SB
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Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 22:54 - Nov 24 with 586 viewsThe_Romford_Blue

Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 22:49 - Nov 24 by StokieBlue

It's nothing like you said, stop rewriting history.

The problem is you're so desperate to post something you post nonsense and then get upset when people call you out. It's not just me making this point so probably best to look at your own posts rather than pointing fingers elsewhere.

SB
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Best to ignore him Stokie. It’s difficult but at this point, it’s flabbergasting.

To even compare Morsy and Dozzell on any level is just ridiculous. Absolute nonsense.

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Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 08:34 - Nov 25 with 462 viewschrismakin

Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 22:49 - Nov 24 by StokieBlue

It's nothing like you said, stop rewriting history.

The problem is you're so desperate to post something you post nonsense and then get upset when people call you out. It's not just me making this point so probably best to look at your own posts rather than pointing fingers elsewhere.

SB
[Post edited 24 Nov 2021 22:50]


No issue with countering views SB, but your first reply wasn't to do that, it was again to get personal.

I see below you've not replied to the OP in regards to your Morsy evidence
Is it all Paul Cook? The players have been a massive let down. by BonneNIL 24 Nov 2021 13:58
I am going to stick my neck out a bit here and say a lot of the players we have signed are underperforming to the point of almost phoning it in. It may be an unpopular opinion but some have got here and just appear to be cruising through doing just about enough but not really much else. Could it be the fact we are a relatively big club at this level with a decent wage with little pressure and a lack of aspiration as a club overall that is a key factor here? Are we continually recruiting the wrong sort of player because for years our standards have been so low?

Last night was dire, absolutely dire and we were beaten in 20 minutes. No spark, no desire, there was nothing to suggest we wanted to win that game at all. If you take all the games since Wycombe both league and cup and it's a pretty sorry state of affairs. We've drawn in normal time against two 4th division teams, not even good ones, and scored no goals in this terrible league. Is this the hallmark of the best squad in the league? Do any of this mob look Championship quality? If they were, why did their clubs let them go so easily? They have been absolutely rotten from arrival and the results appear to reflect that.

We were told Morsy would change our game. Morsy looks like a Poundland equivalent of a Mick McCarthy midfielder with an attitude problem with all the vision of Stevie Wonder. He's awful. I bet Middlesborough were thankful we took him off their hands and paid actual money for him. Is it just me seeing this? Evans isn't any good, bang average, Edwards runs around with no end product, Fraser is awful, Harper is probably one of the worst players we have signed in recent years, and how is Penny any good? Can anyone honestly tell me they look above this level? Can anyone tell me these guys are better than Bishop, Dozzell, and Downes? They honestly don't look it to me. Are any of those keepers much better than what we had? Celina isn't interested either.

I am ready to be torn to pieces on this one, but there has been much media hype about these new signings and a fresh start from the bomb squad but whichever way you try and look at it, we've done worse with these new signings than we did with the last lot and our best player this season, Donacien, was a Paul Hurst signing. Let that sink in.

Call me a bed wetter, or whatever, Paul Cook's biggest mistake to me has been to trust these people he worked with before to deliver again, and frankly, they have been far too comfortable. They have let him down, and while tactically Cook has been poor you can't blame him for the "meh" attitude shown on the pitch by nearly all the golden boys that the likes of the EADT built up as the greatest Town team ever assembled. They are not. They arent even good enough to get into the top 6 of this league and I bet at the end of the season and once their manager is sacked they will be further exposed as not up to the job and looking for their next payday elsewhere.

Rant over I guess.




Another example and evidence, that you like to play the poster not the post ;)

Anyway, have a great day and hope you enjoy the fresh air, gonna be another cold one.

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Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 08:45 - Nov 25 with 452 viewsStokieBlue

Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 08:34 - Nov 25 by chrismakin

No issue with countering views SB, but your first reply wasn't to do that, it was again to get personal.

I see below you've not replied to the OP in regards to your Morsy evidence
Is it all Paul Cook? The players have been a massive let down. by BonneNIL 24 Nov 2021 13:58
I am going to stick my neck out a bit here and say a lot of the players we have signed are underperforming to the point of almost phoning it in. It may be an unpopular opinion but some have got here and just appear to be cruising through doing just about enough but not really much else. Could it be the fact we are a relatively big club at this level with a decent wage with little pressure and a lack of aspiration as a club overall that is a key factor here? Are we continually recruiting the wrong sort of player because for years our standards have been so low?

Last night was dire, absolutely dire and we were beaten in 20 minutes. No spark, no desire, there was nothing to suggest we wanted to win that game at all. If you take all the games since Wycombe both league and cup and it's a pretty sorry state of affairs. We've drawn in normal time against two 4th division teams, not even good ones, and scored no goals in this terrible league. Is this the hallmark of the best squad in the league? Do any of this mob look Championship quality? If they were, why did their clubs let them go so easily? They have been absolutely rotten from arrival and the results appear to reflect that.

We were told Morsy would change our game. Morsy looks like a Poundland equivalent of a Mick McCarthy midfielder with an attitude problem with all the vision of Stevie Wonder. He's awful. I bet Middlesborough were thankful we took him off their hands and paid actual money for him. Is it just me seeing this? Evans isn't any good, bang average, Edwards runs around with no end product, Fraser is awful, Harper is probably one of the worst players we have signed in recent years, and how is Penny any good? Can anyone honestly tell me they look above this level? Can anyone tell me these guys are better than Bishop, Dozzell, and Downes? They honestly don't look it to me. Are any of those keepers much better than what we had? Celina isn't interested either.

I am ready to be torn to pieces on this one, but there has been much media hype about these new signings and a fresh start from the bomb squad but whichever way you try and look at it, we've done worse with these new signings than we did with the last lot and our best player this season, Donacien, was a Paul Hurst signing. Let that sink in.

Call me a bed wetter, or whatever, Paul Cook's biggest mistake to me has been to trust these people he worked with before to deliver again, and frankly, they have been far too comfortable. They have let him down, and while tactically Cook has been poor you can't blame him for the "meh" attitude shown on the pitch by nearly all the golden boys that the likes of the EADT built up as the greatest Town team ever assembled. They are not. They arent even good enough to get into the top 6 of this league and I bet at the end of the season and once their manager is sacked they will be further exposed as not up to the job and looking for their next payday elsewhere.

Rant over I guess.




Another example and evidence, that you like to play the poster not the post ;)

Anyway, have a great day and hope you enjoy the fresh air, gonna be another cold one.


"Another example and evidence, that you like to play the poster not the post ;)"

This isn't true, this is just you having a complex. I didn't even read that post you've quoted. Just because he agrees with you it doesn't mean that you're both right. In this case you're both wrong in my opinion.

My original reply wasn't personal, your post was clearly not supported by evidence as others have said. You could pick any game except for Rotherham and find many examples of Morsy doing the things you claimed he doesn't do.

Have a great day :).

SB
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Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 09:28 - Nov 25 with 421 viewstractorboy1978

Rotherham Fans comments on ITFC Post match. on 16:10 - Nov 24 by chrismakin

Morsy like all the others, Started off impressing. Now he looks like a similar version of dozzell. amazingly lightweight on the ball, not as hard tackling as I thought he was, doesn't go forward, well his body does, the ball comes back. When he joined he drove the team forward and altho his game isn't to put in killer balls.. he seems reluctant to press forward now and reverts to safe side ways football or bring it back edmundson.

Edited again as people.try to take posts to literal.
[Post edited 24 Nov 2021 17:16]


I've seen a bit of stick for Morsy lately and it absolutely baffles me. How anyone couldn't see that him and Edmundson were head and shoulders our two best players on Tuesday is beyond me.
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