| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? 14:59 - Nov 30 with 2987 views | MaySixth |
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| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? on 20:31 - Nov 30 with 742 views | jayessess |
I thought and still do think, that if you give the best coach in the division the biggest budget, then, yes, you would expect the result to be one of the best teams in the league. Not withstanding some initial inconsistency.
As it transpired, part of that formula has not worked out. |  |
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| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? on 20:33 - Nov 30 with 740 views | ArnieM |
I’ve maintained since the take over was announced that Town would take ( need) the whole of this season to settle down . If we make play offs I’d see it as a plus atm |  |
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| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? on 20:37 - Nov 30 with 728 views | jayessess |
One mystery here is... if in the Summer it was obvious that our strategy wasn't going to lead to promotion, then why was everyone so enthusiastic about it? | |
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| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? on 20:37 - Nov 30 with 725 views | Garv |
| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? on 20:15 - Nov 30 by rgp1 |
Maybe but again he was sometimes a polarising character. |
For someone who took no real notice of who our manager was back then, having been nine years old when he arrived, can you explain that one?
Also have no recollection of the circumstances of his departure. Did he just feel he'd taken as far as he could while working under such difficult financial constraints? |  |
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| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? on 21:07 - Nov 30 with 705 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? on 20:37 - Nov 30 by jayessess |
One mystery here is... if in the Summer it was obvious that our strategy wasn't going to lead to promotion, then why was everyone so enthusiastic about it? |
They foresaw sell out crowds watching mid-table League 1 football?
Of course, we should be demanding a team that is performing at automatic promotion form. Whether that is enough to get promoted is another question thanks to where we are right now. Recently we have dipped from automatic promotion form. We need to get back to it again. |  |
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| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? on 21:25 - Nov 30 with 688 views | rgp1 |
| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? on 20:37 - Nov 30 by Garv |
For someone who took no real notice of who our manager was back then, having been nine years old when he arrived, can you explain that one?
Also have no recollection of the circumstances of his departure. Did he just feel he'd taken as far as he could while working under such difficult financial constraints? |
Royle had cut his managerial teeth at Oldham. Won the FA cup in 95 at Everton but had a less successful spell at Man city. His more direct style of play didn't go down well with everyone here and he often referred to the phone ins as moan ins! He once stated that you need battle hardened players in the championship and was often criticized for not playing the likes of danny haynes. I think when he left it was a dispute over transfers with sheepshanks but if I am wrong I am sure someone will correct me. |  | | |
| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? on 13:59 - Dec 1 with 599 views | DavoIPB |
Thought we would be top 6 by now at least and starting to push for automatics. Thought we would take 9 points from our first three game as well. Couldn't believe how poor we were but thought individually players were really good.
Now have little hope of us reaching the play offs as other teams in the league seem way better organised and seem to know what they are doing. I.e. Wigan. Sheffield wed, Plymouth, Oxford. | | | |
| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? on 14:24 - Dec 1 with 589 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
I didn't really think one way or the other, there were too many unknowns before we started signing players.
Either way, I thought it would take a while for those players to gel as a team, and also expected that some players might just not work out for whatever reason. It's very rare that every player does. It's also very rare that a new manager completely turns around a club that's been failing for years in just one transfer window, unless anyone can give me some examples of otherwise.
I remember the days when we used to say 2 or 3 transfer windows was a reasonable amount; you ought to have the players that 'work' by then. It seems with the passing years many Ipswich supporters demand more and more in less and less time from every manager. I think that's unfair and unrealistic. |  |
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| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? on 14:29 - Dec 1 with 582 views | BseaBlue |
| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? on 14:24 - Dec 1 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I didn't really think one way or the other, there were too many unknowns before we started signing players.
Either way, I thought it would take a while for those players to gel as a team, and also expected that some players might just not work out for whatever reason. It's very rare that every player does. It's also very rare that a new manager completely turns around a club that's been failing for years in just one transfer window, unless anyone can give me some examples of otherwise.
I remember the days when we used to say 2 or 3 transfer windows was a reasonable amount; you ought to have the players that 'work' by then. It seems with the passing years many Ipswich supporters demand more and more in less and less time from every manager. I think that's unfair and unrealistic. |
Some of that is purely down to the years of decline isn't it? There is a generation of supporters now that have seen nothing but failure from Town. Did Cook not say in his own words that one window was enough as that is all that most managers get these days?
I don't disagree with you that managers need time, but my concern is that we haven't seen any consistent improvement and that even with the overhaul of the squad, there are similarities between the one this season and last. |  | | |
| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? on 14:44 - Dec 1 with 570 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? on 14:29 - Dec 1 by BseaBlue |
Some of that is purely down to the years of decline isn't it? There is a generation of supporters now that have seen nothing but failure from Town. Did Cook not say in his own words that one window was enough as that is all that most managers get these days?
I don't disagree with you that managers need time, but my concern is that we haven't seen any consistent improvement and that even with the overhaul of the squad, there are similarities between the one this season and last. |
I don't remember Cook saying one window is enough and would be astonished if he'd put that restriction on himself. Do you have a link to it? I can't remember a single manager getting every signing right in his first window, ever.
Sorry, what is purely down to the years of decline? Frustrations and demanding quick fixes? If so yes, possibly. Doesn't make them right. 20 years of carp wasn't Cook's, or Gamechanger's, fault. Logically it's going to take more than one window to address all those years of sh!te, surely?
I think we've seen improvement, just not consistently enough yet. I think if you look at the signings from the first window, Cook's had a pretty decent strike rate so far. Another window to address the issues still persisting seems reasonable to me. | |
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| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? on 14:54 - Dec 1 with 562 views | BseaBlue |
| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? on 14:44 - Dec 1 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I don't remember Cook saying one window is enough and would be astonished if he'd put that restriction on himself. Do you have a link to it? I can't remember a single manager getting every signing right in his first window, ever.
Sorry, what is purely down to the years of decline? Frustrations and demanding quick fixes? If so yes, possibly. Doesn't make them right. 20 years of carp wasn't Cook's, or Gamechanger's, fault. Logically it's going to take more than one window to address all those years of sh!te, surely?
I think we've seen improvement, just not consistently enough yet. I think if you look at the signings from the first window, Cook's had a pretty decent strike rate so far. Another window to address the issues still persisting seems reasonable to me. |
It was at one of the first fans' forums I believe but could be wrong of course.
I was referring to the lack of patience. You are right of course that it has nothing to do with the new owners or manager but I can see why people don't want to have to wait any longer for success when they have seen nothing but failure for such a sustained period of time.
Individually, the signings that have been made are good but there still seems to be an imbalance in the squad for the system he wants to play. January could be an ideal time to rectify that but I fear that our season could already be in tatters if we can't discover some consistency beforehand. | | | |
| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? on 15:27 - Dec 1 with 552 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? on 14:54 - Dec 1 by BseaBlue |
It was at one of the first fans' forums I believe but could be wrong of course.
I was referring to the lack of patience. You are right of course that it has nothing to do with the new owners or manager but I can see why people don't want to have to wait any longer for success when they have seen nothing but failure for such a sustained period of time.
Individually, the signings that have been made are good but there still seems to be an imbalance in the squad for the system he wants to play. January could be an ideal time to rectify that but I fear that our season could already be in tatters if we can't discover some consistency beforehand. |
Broadly agree with you. Can totally see why people are fed up with waiting for success, I am too. The fact that that's true doesn't make it anymore likely that Cook, or anyone else for that matter, would succeed immediately. There may well be managers who would've made a better start but I can't think of anyone who'd turn it around in one window.
The imbalance may simply be down to not being able to get all the players they wanted to (as in their first choices rather than just more players). I'm sure the Luton chap, for example, would've made a difference to the goals conceded column. Hopefully Cook will get some more missing pieces in Jan, but I agree that could be too late for the play offs unfortunately. | |
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| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? on 17:49 - Dec 1 with 515 views | Itfcforme |
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| Did anyone else think we wouldn't go up this season? on 13:19 - Dec 2 with 462 views | MaySixth |
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