| Paul Cook 17:51 - Dec 10 with 10473 views | pennblue |
stands head and shoulders above any of the candidates being bandied about
Just saying |  |
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| Paul Cook on 19:16 - Dec 10 with 1414 views | bazza |
| Paul Cook on 19:14 - Dec 10 by pennblue |
Have you ever hired 19 skilled people before and had them all finely tuned within four months?
If you have please chuck your name into the hat. |
No but if someone paid me the sort of money cook was getting, I’d be running round the field bull whipping the sh1t out of them all, rather than standing on the side lines sipping tea, looking dopey. [Post edited 10 Dec 2021 19:18]
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| Paul Cook on 19:21 - Dec 10 with 1389 views | wkj |
| Paul Cook on 19:14 - Dec 10 by pennblue |
Have you ever hired 19 skilled people before and had them all finely tuned within four months?
If you have please chuck your name into the hat. |
When you hire 19 skilled people, but very few of those people know how to work in what was our lightest area - defense.
The recruitment in the summer was little more than 'Derbyesque' with players bought her to end up languishing, yet were relying on an U23 in LB who isn't at all ready? It was not disaster recruitment, but it was poorly planned and executed. |  |
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| Paul Cook on 19:24 - Dec 10 with 1374 views | timothyeo |
Cook was a useless failure here and that will be reflected in his next job - it won't be at a bigger club than us. | | | |
| Paul Cook on 19:25 - Dec 10 with 1369 views | jeera |
| Paul Cook on 18:59 - Dec 10 by pennblue |
There were some really flat performances for sure. The defence was leaky, the set pieces were awful, the coaching staff was too weak, the players signed were not balanced enough.
Lots of mistakes were made, no doubt. But anyone you hire will make mistakes.
The question is whether you like the look of the potential destination. I did
We have been waiting years for that team. It was there, it is there, a couple of tweaks here and there and we will be flying in January. |
You're trolling, you've got to be. There's no other explanation for these continued efforts at division, saying the same thing day after day.
The team was going backwards, it was there to see as plain as day.
We started the season poorly playing frantic football. All this talk of gelling as though the players only met on match days wore thin.
We finally pulled a few results out the bag and we thought we were on the up.
Then everyone was bewildered about some of the late substitutions that made little sense and the clear way teams were sussing us out by half time with us having no answers, still plugging away with the same routine wondering why it wasn't working, looking completely directionless.
Teams that are progressing show signs of working together more, not less. We were hitting wall after wall and had no ideas, the players weren't begging for the ball and confidence was sapping.
That is not a team on the up, that is a team on the slide. |  |
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| Paul Cook on 19:25 - Dec 10 with 1367 views | pennblue |
| Paul Cook on 19:16 - Dec 10 by bazza |
No but if someone paid me the sort of money cook was getting, I’d be running round the field bull whipping the sh1t out of them all, rather than standing on the side lines sipping tea, looking dopey. [Post edited 10 Dec 2021 19:18]
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I think that is what some of them need. Most seem to have the talent. | |
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| Paul Cook on 19:27 - Dec 10 with 1361 views | pennblue |
| Paul Cook on 19:21 - Dec 10 by wkj |
When you hire 19 skilled people, but very few of those people know how to work in what was our lightest area - defense.
The recruitment in the summer was little more than 'Derbyesque' with players bought her to end up languishing, yet were relying on an U23 in LB who isn't at all ready? It was not disaster recruitment, but it was poorly planned and executed. |
I agree but the solution is to right those mistakes in the January window, not to sack the manager | |
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| Paul Cook on 19:31 - Dec 10 with 1351 views | pennblue |
| Paul Cook on 19:25 - Dec 10 by jeera |
You're trolling, you've got to be. There's no other explanation for these continued efforts at division, saying the same thing day after day.
The team was going backwards, it was there to see as plain as day.
We started the season poorly playing frantic football. All this talk of gelling as though the players only met on match days wore thin.
We finally pulled a few results out the bag and we thought we were on the up.
Then everyone was bewildered about some of the late substitutions that made little sense and the clear way teams were sussing us out by half time with us having no answers, still plugging away with the same routine wondering why it wasn't working, looking completely directionless.
Teams that are progressing show signs of working together more, not less. We were hitting wall after wall and had no ideas, the players weren't begging for the ball and confidence was sapping.
That is not a team on the up, that is a team on the slide. |
4 solid signings in January and we will be flying
We have a lot of very good players, Just need a few more in certain positions
Everyone knows this. | |
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| Paul Cook on 19:34 - Dec 10 with 1345 views | bazza |
| Paul Cook on 19:25 - Dec 10 by jeera |
You're trolling, you've got to be. There's no other explanation for these continued efforts at division, saying the same thing day after day.
The team was going backwards, it was there to see as plain as day.
We started the season poorly playing frantic football. All this talk of gelling as though the players only met on match days wore thin.
We finally pulled a few results out the bag and we thought we were on the up.
Then everyone was bewildered about some of the late substitutions that made little sense and the clear way teams were sussing us out by half time with us having no answers, still plugging away with the same routine wondering why it wasn't working, looking completely directionless.
Teams that are progressing show signs of working together more, not less. We were hitting wall after wall and had no ideas, the players weren't begging for the ball and confidence was sapping.
That is not a team on the up, that is a team on the slide. |
Yep, spot on, we can all agree the players have the individual abilities.. it’s the mangers coaches responsibility to make them work together, spot where is best to play each player, see who compliments who, so Many games where even at 1-0 and even 2-0 down where we never changed things.. that’s poor management. | | | |
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| Paul Cook on 19:34 - Dec 10 with 1347 views | wkj |
| Paul Cook on 19:27 - Dec 10 by pennblue |
I agree but the solution is to right those mistakes in the January window, not to sack the manager |
I'm not saying it was necessarily the right decision to sack Cook, but he was not doing anything to statistically show he was improving - and that's the core issue here. Cook didn't improve anything, he didn't. I mean, we played some good football, but it's pointless if your 70th-minute substitutions end up finishing the job on throwing away a 2 goal lead.
Okay, once or twitch is to almost be expected - but 10 times in the same season?
Also, when Bonne's form dipped (which is an inevitability for all strikers), then we were outright bad as a team. We didn't have the goals to protect us from losses and the whole team started playing like crap.
No matter how good Cook is as a manager - he was not showing any improvement here whatsoever, certainly not enough to make himself immune from the axe. | |
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| Paul Cook on 19:35 - Dec 10 with 1341 views | Illinoisblue |
If only there was some evidence of him being not very good here |  |
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| Paul Cook on 19:42 - Dec 10 with 1327 views | BlueBadger |
I fear that says more about the rest of the candidates, rather than the quality of the job he did here. |  |
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| Paul Cook on 19:43 - Dec 10 with 1313 views | Darth_Koont |
| Paul Cook on 19:42 - Dec 10 by BlueBadger |
I fear that says more about the rest of the candidates, rather than the quality of the job he did here. |
Go on ... |  |
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| Paul Cook on 19:45 - Dec 10 with 1314 views | Guthrum |
I liked Cook, I thought he was a decent manager and had high hopes for him at Ipswich. However, for whatever reason, things were not working here, despite him having hired a bespoke squad and been given almost half a season to get it functioning.
You can't cite two isolated performances out of 28 (44 if you include last season) and claim that as an exemplar of the way things were heading. Especially as they were followed up by a sustained slump which saw us win just three games out of nine (one of those only on penalties against a League Two side). Apart from the two you mention, every League win has been against teams currently in the bottom seven places of the table.
Even that Portsmouth victory was against a team with one win and three draws from the preceding nine fixtures.
It wasn't good, whichever way you look at it and there was very little sign of even moderate positive progress.
If I saw Cook fail that badly at his most recent job, it would raise serious questions about his suitability to be our next Manager. |  |
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| Paul Cook on 19:52 - Dec 10 with 1280 views | Guthrum |
| Paul Cook on 18:36 - Dec 10 by BlueandTruesince82 |
4 months with a squad that dine know each othercfrom Adam. Yeah ages. Rome, built day etc. |
That's not completely true. Morsy and Evans were a partnership before, at Wigan under Cook. | |
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| Paul Cook on 19:59 - Dec 10 with 1270 views | Herbivore |
| Paul Cook on 19:14 - Dec 10 by pennblue |
Have you ever hired 19 skilled people before and had them all finely tuned within four months?
If you have please chuck your name into the hat. |
Used to take me under 3 months. |  |
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| Paul Cook on 20:30 - Dec 10 with 1236 views | jas0999 |
Cooks record here was awful. Simply awful. No excuse either. Well backed.
But, equally the potentials are in Harris, Lennon etc are awful. | | | |
| Paul Cook on 20:34 - Dec 10 with 1222 views | Steve_M |
I mean, if he was that good maybe he might have won a few more football matches in the third division.
Just saying. |  |
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| Paul Cook on 20:37 - Dec 10 with 1199 views | jeera |
| Paul Cook on 20:34 - Dec 10 by Steve_M |
I mean, if he was that good maybe he might have won a few more football matches in the third division.
Just saying. |
Not relevant apparently.
"I don’t care about the position, I care much more about what sort of football team he was creating".
I mean, really. | |
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| Paul Cook on 20:47 - Dec 10 with 1162 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Paul Cook on 19:16 - Dec 10 by bazza |
No but if someone paid me the sort of money cook was getting, I’d be running round the field bull whipping the sh1t out of them all, rather than standing on the side lines sipping tea, looking dopey. [Post edited 10 Dec 2021 19:18]
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Or perhaps working despite your dad's passing, that kind of thing? |  |
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| Paul Cook on 20:50 - Dec 10 with 1155 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Paul Cook on 19:52 - Dec 10 by Guthrum |
That's not completely true. Morsy and Evans were a partnership before, at Wigan under Cook. |
So 2 players new each other. Well that completely changes they dynamic | |
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| Paul Cook on 20:58 - Dec 10 with 1156 views | Illinoisblue |
| Paul Cook on 20:37 - Dec 10 by jeera |
Not relevant apparently.
"I don’t care about the position, I care much more about what sort of football team he was creating".
I mean, really. |
Don’t forget the “improved entertainment” that comes with playing well twice in 44 games. | |
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| Paul Cook on 21:02 - Dec 10 with 1146 views | BlueBadger |
| Paul Cook on 19:14 - Dec 10 by pennblue |
Have you ever hired 19 skilled people before and had them all finely tuned within four months?
If you have please chuck your name into the hat. |
When my team went 24/7 a few years ago, we effectively tripled the size of the team. Everyone recruited had to learn something new - the critical care nurses had to learn how things work on the ward, who to escalate to and what worked on what ward and the non- critical care nurses had to learn critical skills such as NIV, airway assisting, ALS and much more.
Emergency 'crash' admissions to ITU went down by 90% within 6 weeks. [Post edited 10 Dec 2021 21:21]
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| Paul Cook on 21:05 - Dec 10 with 1124 views | Herbivore |
| Paul Cook on 20:50 - Dec 10 by BlueandTruesince82 |
So 2 players new each other. Well that completely changes they dynamic |
For most of the past 6 weeks we've played a back 4 including 3 players who were all at the club last year, so it's not just those two players who know each other already. | |
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| Paul Cook on 21:28 - Dec 10 with 1094 views | bazza |
| Paul Cook on 20:47 - Dec 10 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Or perhaps working despite your dad's passing, that kind of thing? |
Obviously I sympathise with that, but we all lose loved ones throughout our lives, and I really don’t think it was the reason things were not working.. but nice try. | | | |
| Paul Cook on 21:35 - Dec 10 with 1078 views | Guthrum |
| Paul Cook on 20:50 - Dec 10 by BlueandTruesince82 |
So 2 players new each other. Well that completely changes they dynamic |
Given they were supposed to be the engine room of the midfield, then yes. | |
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