| Klopp, Pep and co. moaning about fixtures and player welfare 23:08 - Dec 23 with 3586 views | Illinoisblue |
Presumably they’ll be voicing the same concerns when their clubs jet off to the far-East, US and Dubai for money-making pre season friendless.
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| Klopp, Pep and co. moaning about fixtures and player welfare on 07:46 - Dec 25 with 713 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Klopp, Pep and co. moaning about fixtures and player welfare on 00:18 - Dec 25 by Churchman |
What’s next is the big five or six clubs engineering things even more their way. In the league and FA Cup, these clubs don’t play anything like their first team until semi finals/final. Hell, even mid table L1 fodder like ourselves don’t.
Scrap the league cup if that is what 92 clubs want but not at the behest of half a dozen clubs creaming off the best of everything and employing goodness knows how many professionals and a loan system that does more harm than good to the game. If there is a winter break how many of these clubs will wind up in the Far East or head chopper lands playing for big lumps of £££? ‘Warm up games’’keeping the lads fit’ etc. yeah, right.
What next? A super league is coming. A Premier League with no relegation with little leagues of feeder clubs is coming. Are you interested in Ipswich Town being West Ham’s or Norwich City’s little feeder club? I’m not. This speculative opinion is based on the direction of travel based since gate receipts were no longer shared in the early 80s.
If people sympathise with the poor hard done by Liverpools, Man Us, Citehs and Chelsea’s fine. I don’t. The trouble is, they run the game and make the rules. The lickspittle blazers at the FA are happy with their lot so alls well. For some. There is no equalisation process as there is in in some American sport like NFL, because it doesn't serve the interests of the above clubs. That saddens me because it weakens the greatest team game in the world. Just a view. |
Surely, mandating 72 hours gap between matches would suit the smaller clubs better than the bigger ones as the bigger clubs have larger squads that should be able to cope better with having to rotate players. It is notable it is some of the bigger clubs complaining about this. I suspect it is more to do with wanting to play more alternative fixtures than the fixture congestion itself.
Mandating a 72 hour gap, will inevitably mean something has to give - a further cut to numbers in the Premier League or cutting out one of the other cups or making the European trophies back to straight knockout over 2 legs (which won't happen because the bigger clubs want these games guaranteed whether they are good enough or not). |  |
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| Klopp, Pep and co. moaning about fixtures and player welfare on 09:16 - Dec 25 with 676 views | itfcsuth |
| Klopp, Pep and co. moaning about fixtures and player welfare on 20:04 - Dec 24 by Nthsuffolkblue |
How much does sponsorship of the FA Cup raise and where does the rest of the money from the League Cup go?
There was a time where the difference in prestige of the two trophies would suggest around a 20-fold difference in prize money would be about right. Now, I am surprised there is as much as that for the FA Cup which seems to have been devalued as well in more recent years (or is that just because we don't bother competing in it?).
Most top teams don't put out a full side (or even anything close to it) in the early rounds of those competitions anyway. |
The FA raise £10 per year from Emirates currently. Just doesn’t add up to me.
The FA pay near 20% of the pot to the winners.
The EFL pays less than 2% of the the pot to the winner.
I would cut the League Cup. It has no prestige for me, where as the FA Cup has greater. I also believe if there was just 1 domestic cup, therefore cutting down the schedule, all teams would take it seriously. |  | | |
| Klopp, Pep and co. moaning about fixtures and player welfare on 09:53 - Dec 25 with 671 views | jayessess |
| Klopp, Pep and co. moaning about fixtures and player welfare on 07:46 - Dec 25 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Surely, mandating 72 hours gap between matches would suit the smaller clubs better than the bigger ones as the bigger clubs have larger squads that should be able to cope better with having to rotate players. It is notable it is some of the bigger clubs complaining about this. I suspect it is more to do with wanting to play more alternative fixtures than the fixture congestion itself.
Mandating a 72 hour gap, will inevitably mean something has to give - a further cut to numbers in the Premier League or cutting out one of the other cups or making the European trophies back to straight knockout over 2 legs (which won't happen because the bigger clubs want these games guaranteed whether they are good enough or not). |
I don't think anything would have to give to accommodate 72-hr gaps, would it? In this instance you'd just move that whole matchday to the Wednesday. One less televised match, but everyone could live with that.
I doubt it's anything to do with alternative fixtures. The impetus here is all from players and managers, rather than clubs. Straightforward explanation is that their issue is exactly what they say it is - the physical impact of playing 2 matches in quick succession. |  |
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| Klopp, Pep and co. moaning about fixtures and player welfare on 13:29 - Dec 25 with 646 views | MattinLondon |
| Klopp, Pep and co. moaning about fixtures and player welfare on 17:48 - Dec 24 by allezlesbleus |
Before Sky / PL, there were far more Saturday 3pm fixtures.
What % of PL clubs matches are played at 3pm on a Saturday now, over the course of a season? |
And those 3pm kick-offs were played on mud baths in stadiums that were basically giant urinals. |  | | |
| Klopp, Pep and co. moaning about fixtures and player welfare on 14:40 - Dec 25 with 630 views | Churchman |
| Klopp, Pep and co. moaning about fixtures and player welfare on 13:29 - Dec 25 by MattinLondon |
And those 3pm kick-offs were played on mud baths in stadiums that were basically giant urinals. |
That one at the back of Churchmens was a challenge. It was a can I get through without breathing and in winter, the steam came out from either end. Ahhh, happy days. |  | | |
| Klopp, Pep and co. moaning about fixtures and player welfare on 12:40 - Dec 26 with 544 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Klopp, Pep and co. moaning about fixtures and player welfare on 09:53 - Dec 25 by jayessess |
I don't think anything would have to give to accommodate 72-hr gaps, would it? In this instance you'd just move that whole matchday to the Wednesday. One less televised match, but everyone could live with that.
I doubt it's anything to do with alternative fixtures. The impetus here is all from players and managers, rather than clubs. Straightforward explanation is that their issue is exactly what they say it is - the physical impact of playing 2 matches in quick succession. |
There is a tradition of playing Saturday, bank holiday Monday. It is also the allowance for moving fixtures. I actually think there is no reason that teams cannot play the odd twice in 3 days (especially with the size of modern squads). If the fixture list was constantly every midweek there is then no flexibility for rearranged matches. That is where teams do end up having to play a lot of matches in short time. Not ideal, especially at the end of the season. | |
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