| Celina 20:43 - Feb 23 with 2358 views | dominiciawful |
I really hope we can keep him beyond this season.
He has the ability to produce that moment of magic to change a game.
Burns should've put that one in from his excellent run and cross. |  |
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| Celina on 20:46 - Feb 23 with 2004 views | FrimleyBlue |
Depends on the fee and wages. We've no idea what we are paying for him you can only assume its quite a bit.. now apart from a few golden moments.. worth the money? Not sure. |  |
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| Celina on 20:49 - Feb 23 with 1978 views | hype313 |
| Celina on 20:46 - Feb 23 by FrimleyBlue |
Depends on the fee and wages. We've no idea what we are paying for him you can only assume its quite a bit.. now apart from a few golden moments.. worth the money? Not sure. |
Dijon are facing another season in the second tier, can see them wanting to shift him off the wage bill.
Whether we can afford him is a different matter. |  |
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| Celina on 20:51 - Feb 23 with 1969 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Celina on 20:49 - Feb 23 by hype313 |
Dijon are facing another season in the second tier, can see them wanting to shift him off the wage bill.
Whether we can afford him is a different matter. |
It'll be interesting on the financial front next season if league 1 again. Potentially spending millions on the pitch. Ground etc. Let alone training ground updates. More staff etc before you even think about playing staff. | |
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| Celina on 21:06 - Feb 23 with 1912 views | Juggsy |
A few good moments but on the whole he just seems to stall our attacking play by holding the ball too long when the more effective play would be to get it moving. I wouldn’t be too devastated if he doesn’t come back personally. Class on his day but over 90 minutes doesn’t produce enough imo. |  | | |
| Celina on 23:16 - Feb 23 with 1777 views | BarcaBlue |
Bizarre that people still doubt Celina's contribution to all that has been positive to recent form, and even before under Cook. A player who repeatedly breaks the lines, works hard, tracks back, can pick a pass like no other player on the pitch and looks thoroughly happy in his role.
Yet we still get these posts that the contribution is fleeting, that he's a luxury, that we can't afford him. Complete nonsense. He's central to so much that is good right now and if we couldn't afford him next year, I doubt we could this. But he's here, playing a pivotal role and people are completely blind to his influence. Bizarre. |  | | |
| Celina on 04:03 - Feb 24 with 1671 views | BigCommon |
| Celina on 20:46 - Feb 23 by FrimleyBlue |
Depends on the fee and wages. We've no idea what we are paying for him you can only assume its quite a bit.. now apart from a few golden moments.. worth the money? Not sure. |
I love watching him.. Amazing close control, good pace and acceleration. Always on the half turn and looking to drive forwards... Personally think he may have hade some stamina issues early season. Which is understandable, given that he was coming back from some heart related fitness problems. I think he's found another gear under KM.. The amount of unconverted chances he's created lately? He's far more creative than some give him credit for.... Looks like he's enjoying his football atm... There will always be some games when certain players are less effective. That's football.... He's unique, and gives us something different... I'd be happy to see him here next season. |  | | |
| Celina on 08:08 - Feb 24 with 1552 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Celina on 23:16 - Feb 23 by BarcaBlue |
Bizarre that people still doubt Celina's contribution to all that has been positive to recent form, and even before under Cook. A player who repeatedly breaks the lines, works hard, tracks back, can pick a pass like no other player on the pitch and looks thoroughly happy in his role.
Yet we still get these posts that the contribution is fleeting, that he's a luxury, that we can't afford him. Complete nonsense. He's central to so much that is good right now and if we couldn't afford him next year, I doubt we could this. But he's here, playing a pivotal role and people are completely blind to his influence. Bizarre. |
" if we couldn't afford him next year, I doubt we could this."
I don't agree there, again we're all guessing, but with the increase in staff costs, pitch etc as mentioned above, we don't know how this will effect financials for next season, so imo whilst it's wrong of me to assume we couldn't, it's also wrong to assume just because we did this year means we can next. We don't know. How much did the new owners really think we'd still be league 1 next season? Did they imagine we'd buy a squad, go up first time of asking, happy days. ' god have Mercy on league 1'
Absolutely if a deal can be done, we buy him, it's a simple as that, but if it's a high cost, then possibly no if it meant we got 2 players KM wanted. I would say too do not waste funds on Bonne when they could be put towards Celina. | |
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| Celina on 08:15 - Feb 24 with 1529 views | BiGDonnie |
| Celina on 23:16 - Feb 23 by BarcaBlue |
Bizarre that people still doubt Celina's contribution to all that has been positive to recent form, and even before under Cook. A player who repeatedly breaks the lines, works hard, tracks back, can pick a pass like no other player on the pitch and looks thoroughly happy in his role.
Yet we still get these posts that the contribution is fleeting, that he's a luxury, that we can't afford him. Complete nonsense. He's central to so much that is good right now and if we couldn't afford him next year, I doubt we could this. But he's here, playing a pivotal role and people are completely blind to his influence. Bizarre. |
It was only Frimleyblue who doesn't actually count.
Celina will be signed on a permanent basis this summer, regardless of whether we go up. |  |
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| Celina on 08:21 - Feb 24 with 1519 views | Fenland_Blue |
| Celina on 08:15 - Feb 24 by BiGDonnie |
It was only Frimleyblue who doesn't actually count.
Celina will be signed on a permanent basis this summer, regardless of whether we go up. |
Could a club get around FFP by offering lower wages to stay within the rules but give the player a large signing on fee, to cover the lower wages? |  |
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| Celina on 08:27 - Feb 24 with 1501 views | BiGDonnie |
| Celina on 08:21 - Feb 24 by Fenland_Blue |
Could a club get around FFP by offering lower wages to stay within the rules but give the player a large signing on fee, to cover the lower wages? |
I'd imagine so, not that I'm an expert on the finances and rules. We've pulled off similar signings before who we thought were out of our bracket. | |
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| Celina on 08:30 - Feb 24 with 1500 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Celina on 08:15 - Feb 24 by BiGDonnie |
It was only Frimleyblue who doesn't actually count.
Celina will be signed on a permanent basis this summer, regardless of whether we go up. |
It's ok for you to have that view. But I think it's a bit far for Barca to say and for you to agree that he's been influential in the good results we've had under KM.
Since KM joined, We've won just 2 games that Celina started. ( TBF he's only started 5) so it's not a shabby return, BUT it does show that Celina hasn't been 'that' influential in our upturn in results so it's ok for people ( and no it's not just me ) that wonder if he's worth the money next season IF indeed it's even expensive - we don't know.
What I will say and as I did Tues, I felt he was Motm and he's been a lot more 'balanced' overall in what he's given when playing, but I do think financials will determine if we look to bring him back. | |
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| Celina on 08:59 - Feb 24 with 1435 views | BarcaBlue |
| Celina on 08:30 - Feb 24 by FrimleyBlue |
It's ok for you to have that view. But I think it's a bit far for Barca to say and for you to agree that he's been influential in the good results we've had under KM.
Since KM joined, We've won just 2 games that Celina started. ( TBF he's only started 5) so it's not a shabby return, BUT it does show that Celina hasn't been 'that' influential in our upturn in results so it's ok for people ( and no it's not just me ) that wonder if he's worth the money next season IF indeed it's even expensive - we don't know.
What I will say and as I did Tues, I felt he was Motm and he's been a lot more 'balanced' overall in what he's given when playing, but I do think financials will determine if we look to bring him back. |
That stat is as meaningless as the majority of your posts. You say he was motm but yet use a stat that shows in your opinion he wasn't influential as he started in a game we didn't win. Complete tosh. | | | |
| Celina on 09:04 - Feb 24 with 1405 views | NthQldITFC |
His close control at speed is too good for Division 2, let alone Division 3, and he seems to be getting more consistently influential in games under K-Mac too. If we can pull off promotion this season, he'll be a focal part of our push for Division 1 next year. Either way, we should do everything we can to keep him. |  |
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| Celina on 09:10 - Feb 24 with 1386 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Celina on 08:59 - Feb 24 by BarcaBlue |
That stat is as meaningless as the majority of your posts. You say he was motm but yet use a stat that shows in your opinion he wasn't influential as he started in a game we didn't win. Complete tosh. |
You're the one that said he was influential to the run under KM. We've won more games without him hence why I don't agree he's been 'that' influential under KM, we weren't talking about 1 game. | |
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| Celina on 09:24 - Feb 24 with 1339 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Celina on 08:08 - Feb 24 by FrimleyBlue |
" if we couldn't afford him next year, I doubt we could this."
I don't agree there, again we're all guessing, but with the increase in staff costs, pitch etc as mentioned above, we don't know how this will effect financials for next season, so imo whilst it's wrong of me to assume we couldn't, it's also wrong to assume just because we did this year means we can next. We don't know. How much did the new owners really think we'd still be league 1 next season? Did they imagine we'd buy a squad, go up first time of asking, happy days. ' god have Mercy on league 1'
Absolutely if a deal can be done, we buy him, it's a simple as that, but if it's a high cost, then possibly no if it meant we got 2 players KM wanted. I would say too do not waste funds on Bonne when they could be put towards Celina. |
In terms of SCMP, the only costs we have to think about are those of the 22 man squad we name. Nobody/nothing else counts. So they can pile as much money into the ground/training ground as they like and that won't affect our ability to invest in the playing squad - unless they decide they don't want to, which seems very unlikely given the noises.
On Celina, it is bizarre that so many aren't arsed about him. He's a class act and should of had 4/5 more assists in the last 3/4 games alone. He also works bloody hard too. He's a far better and rounded player than the one that was decent for us in the Championship. [Post edited 24 Feb 2022 9:26]
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| Celina on 09:26 - Feb 24 with 1311 views | clive_baker |
| Celina on 23:16 - Feb 23 by BarcaBlue |
Bizarre that people still doubt Celina's contribution to all that has been positive to recent form, and even before under Cook. A player who repeatedly breaks the lines, works hard, tracks back, can pick a pass like no other player on the pitch and looks thoroughly happy in his role.
Yet we still get these posts that the contribution is fleeting, that he's a luxury, that we can't afford him. Complete nonsense. He's central to so much that is good right now and if we couldn't afford him next year, I doubt we could this. But he's here, playing a pivotal role and people are completely blind to his influence. Bizarre. |
Important to remember that he was recovering from illness too and took a while to find his fitness. Every time he got the ball on Tuesday Cheltenham were nervous and rightly so as he put our best 2 chances on a plate for Burns & Edmundson. He's got too much ability for L1, absolute class above at this level. |  |
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| Celina on 09:27 - Feb 24 with 1302 views | BarcaBlue |
| Celina on 09:10 - Feb 24 by FrimleyBlue |
You're the one that said he was influential to the run under KM. We've won more games without him hence why I don't agree he's been 'that' influential under KM, we weren't talking about 1 game. |
I know you find thinking before posting a major challenge so I'll make it clear for you. I was showing that in the same post you claimed he was motm yet you have included it in a stat to show his lack of influence. It's a response to a meaningless stat. I could have talked about sub appearances in other matches, the opposition, the missed chances from his assists etc etc etc to prove the same point. I just chose the one where your contradiction was particularly obvious. | | | |
| Celina on 09:29 - Feb 24 with 1290 views | BiGDonnie |
| Celina on 09:26 - Feb 24 by clive_baker |
Important to remember that he was recovering from illness too and took a while to find his fitness. Every time he got the ball on Tuesday Cheltenham were nervous and rightly so as he put our best 2 chances on a plate for Burns & Edmundson. He's got too much ability for L1, absolute class above at this level. |
Frimley's not sure if we should sign him though mate  | |
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| Celina on 09:43 - Feb 24 with 1199 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Celina on 09:29 - Feb 24 by BiGDonnie |
Frimley's not sure if we should sign him though mate |
I'd sign him all day long if it didn't have a big effect on our finances, if there is a deal to be done, do it. Haven't said anything different despite your attempts to ignore my actual input in this thread. | |
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| Celina on 09:45 - Feb 24 with 1190 views | DJR |
Personally, I'd rather keep and play Aluko than Celina. Celina is very talented but I think he tends to hang on to the ball too long. He also has a habit of running into the space of those ahead of him. I don't think he passed a single ball to Jackson all night on Tuesday, whereas Aluko is more of a team player and worked well with Jackson on Saturday. |  | | |
| Celina on 09:51 - Feb 24 with 1151 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Celina on 09:27 - Feb 24 by BarcaBlue |
I know you find thinking before posting a major challenge so I'll make it clear for you. I was showing that in the same post you claimed he was motm yet you have included it in a stat to show his lack of influence. It's a response to a meaningless stat. I could have talked about sub appearances in other matches, the opposition, the missed chances from his assists etc etc etc to prove the same point. I just chose the one where your contradiction was particularly obvious. |
Well that's just you being daft then so i'll spell it out and make it clear for you,
You were getting all excited talking about how 1 player has been influential to the KM run, that 1 player you spoke of in that run has been part of just 2 wins from only 5 starts, that's not being a highly influential player to an overall run, being Motm in 1 game isn't a contradiction to that statement of yours, it's 1 game. Mayb you feel 2 games is influential to an over run of 12 games, that's entirely your decision and thought process, so you be you.
Anyway again, as you and others seem to struggle with, Celina is a solid player, probably at times a level above others, if financially a deal could be done, keep him, If not we have shown it's not the Celina show, so we could and would probably be ok without, as stats have shown over the run of 12 games under KM.
Just because I don't get all excited about him like you, doesn't mean to don't appreciate what he can do on occasions. | |
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| Celina on 09:51 - Feb 24 with 1150 views | hype313 |
| Celina on 09:45 - Feb 24 by DJR |
Personally, I'd rather keep and play Aluko than Celina. Celina is very talented but I think he tends to hang on to the ball too long. He also has a habit of running into the space of those ahead of him. I don't think he passed a single ball to Jackson all night on Tuesday, whereas Aluko is more of a team player and worked well with Jackson on Saturday. |
He passed a number of balls to Jackson, it was just unfortunate that Jackson got the ball caught between is legs or bounced of them.
He also creates so many opportunities for Burns. | |
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| Celina on 09:57 - Feb 24 with 1109 views | Beckets |
| Celina on 09:51 - Feb 24 by FrimleyBlue |
Well that's just you being daft then so i'll spell it out and make it clear for you,
You were getting all excited talking about how 1 player has been influential to the KM run, that 1 player you spoke of in that run has been part of just 2 wins from only 5 starts, that's not being a highly influential player to an overall run, being Motm in 1 game isn't a contradiction to that statement of yours, it's 1 game. Mayb you feel 2 games is influential to an over run of 12 games, that's entirely your decision and thought process, so you be you.
Anyway again, as you and others seem to struggle with, Celina is a solid player, probably at times a level above others, if financially a deal could be done, keep him, If not we have shown it's not the Celina show, so we could and would probably be ok without, as stats have shown over the run of 12 games under KM.
Just because I don't get all excited about him like you, doesn't mean to don't appreciate what he can do on occasions. |
Read that back and reflect on why people comment that you write before thinking. The lack of punctuation, spelling mistakes, errors etc alone draw people to that conclusion. |  | | |
| Celina on 09:57 - Feb 24 with 1109 views | Dubtractor |
| Celina on 09:51 - Feb 24 by hype313 |
He passed a number of balls to Jackson, it was just unfortunate that Jackson got the ball caught between is legs or bounced of them.
He also creates so many opportunities for Burns. |
Yeah, if you didn't see the numerous passes to Jackson in the first half, then you probably weren't watching very closely! |  |
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| Celina on 10:03 - Feb 24 with 1084 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Celina on 09:57 - Feb 24 by Beckets |
Read that back and reflect on why people comment that you write before thinking. The lack of punctuation, spelling mistakes, errors etc alone draw people to that conclusion. |
Oh well sht happens, it's not an exam. | |
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