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Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? 20:05 - Oct 23 with 5575 viewsOrangeboi373

Before I start, I do want to make it clear that you can support whoever you like, whether prem or non-league, this post is more about curiosity then a rant.

Why are there so many big 6 supports rather than town supporters in Suffolk, especially around the Sudbury area? In primary, I was 1 of 2 Ipswich supporters in my class. Everyone else was a Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal or Liverpool fan, there even was a barca fan. I know in 50s many towns like Sudbury experienced massive growth in population, especially Londoners.

I can understand why there are West Ham or Spurs fans, but not Man City. Why support a team that you probably only see once in a lifetime rather than a team who you can see quite often for less.

I mean, we are a big club, we won a fair few trophies, have a proud history and a large fanbase in Ipswich itself, but not Sudbury.

Maybe because I was in primary, kids like to grab onto big teams because they want success.

Again not a rant, but something that has always boggled my mind.
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Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 10:01 - Oct 24 with 1233 viewsleitrimblue

Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 02:04 - Oct 24 by Miaow

The line used to continue from Sudbury up to Melford and on to Bury, I believe. Also, it split west towards Cambridge, following a line just north of the Essex border, going through Clare towards Haverhill. There was also the line which split at Chappel/Wakes Colne and went through Halstead and the Hedinghams up to Haverhill. From Haverhill, I know that it went through Bartlow on the Cambs/Essex border because they (the Victorians) destroyed one or two of the ancient Roman-era tumuli (burial mounds) there when they built the line. I think there was also a line from Saffron Walden which joined around Bartlow.

In the north of Essex there was also Braintree to Bishops Stortford via Dunmow, a line to Thaxted (I think), a small line to Brightlingsea, a line from Kelvedon to Tollesbury via Tiptree, and also the Witham-to-Maldon branch line.

The rail map around this part of the country, and the rest of it, used to look a lot more dense.


The old railway line in Haverhill runs straight through the Chalkstone Estate from the Cambridge direction towards Clare. Runs parallel with the Haverhill-Clare Road and the river Stour. The other line shoots off towards Steple Bumpstead. ( The bridge you pass under when entering Haverhill from Clare is the railway bridge heading out towards Bumpstead) You mean the railway went through the Bartlow hills barrows? Never knew that
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Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 10:12 - Oct 24 with 1217 viewsAlanRetentive

Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 23:44 - Oct 23 by bournemouthblue

I believe there was once a line that went to Ipswich, presumably cut in Doctor Breeching's cuts?

There's definitely an abandoned railway line you can walk along, no idea where it actually went though?

A train to Cambridge via Sudbury & Haverhill from Ipswich would make sense

An actual main road, East to West for South Suffolk too would be nice

I suspect it's asking too much, given the A12 to Lowestoft isn't even dual carriageway for most of the way, which I find staggering given it's Suffolk's second biggest Town


My great aunt Harriet was very fond of her journeys on the Stour Valley Railway, and could tell you a tale or two about the goings-on in Haverhill around the time of the reprehensible Dr. Beeching's assault on her preferred passage.

Dear, departed great uncle Wilberforce, who locally provided great comfort and succour to many fallen ladies from the East End of London, got his inspiration whilst travelling on the line, but after the closure was forced to go elsewhere for it.

Great aunt Harriet insists that 1967 was the start of the great epidemic of wild fornication in the streets of Haverhill, which she witnesses every night from behind her net curtains with a tear in her eye and a tissue in her hand. She keeps a rubber truncheon close by, for use in the event of an intrusion.

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Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 10:28 - Oct 24 with 1182 viewsleitrimblue

Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 10:12 - Oct 24 by AlanRetentive

My great aunt Harriet was very fond of her journeys on the Stour Valley Railway, and could tell you a tale or two about the goings-on in Haverhill around the time of the reprehensible Dr. Beeching's assault on her preferred passage.

Dear, departed great uncle Wilberforce, who locally provided great comfort and succour to many fallen ladies from the East End of London, got his inspiration whilst travelling on the line, but after the closure was forced to go elsewhere for it.

Great aunt Harriet insists that 1967 was the start of the great epidemic of wild fornication in the streets of Haverhill, which she witnesses every night from behind her net curtains with a tear in her eye and a tissue in her hand. She keeps a rubber truncheon close by, for use in the event of an intrusion.

Matthew Hancock has as yet offered her no relief.


Traditionally the housewives of Haverhill have kept a large truncheon under the pillow just in case of said intrusion. I believe the handcuffs are also kept there in case an intruder needs to be detained. I have no idea what the butt plug is for
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Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 19:44 - Oct 24 with 1081 viewsSharkey

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Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 23:05 - Oct 24 with 1014 viewsNthsuffolkblue

North Suffolk this afternoon and the only colours on show at all were a young lad with a Town badge on his top. No others for any club whatsoever. Probably saw around 50+ people. I did see someone who I know is an Oxford fan, though.

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Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 01:47 - Oct 25 with 986 viewsbournemouthblue

Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 09:21 - Oct 24 by Guthrum

Was never a direct route from Sudbury to Ipswich, only via Colchester to the south or Bury to the north. The Hadleigh line was a fairly short branch.


That's crazy isn't it, I wonder what the reason for that is?

It seems a fairly obvious route unless there's particularly geographical reasons for not being able to implement it

I do know some train buffs, I'll see if they have any insight into it

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Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 08:01 - Oct 25 with 906 viewsElephantintheRoom

The question is more why there are so few in Ipswich. Town have long drawn a huge proportion of their support from all over the county. Difficulties in making what was once an easy drive and park has probably discouraged some and in recent decades the club has tossed away its identity which has no doubt disaffected others. I’ve always suspected Town have a high proportion of silver-haired’ supporters who tend to die and their offspring move away. One of the factors which no doubt attracted the franchisees is that Town’s fan base has always been much bigger than those who turn up to the game - streaming makes the income much greater than just match day revenue whilst they await TV income

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Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 10:28 - Oct 25 with 860 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 08:01 - Oct 25 by ElephantintheRoom

The question is more why there are so few in Ipswich. Town have long drawn a huge proportion of their support from all over the county. Difficulties in making what was once an easy drive and park has probably discouraged some and in recent decades the club has tossed away its identity which has no doubt disaffected others. I’ve always suspected Town have a high proportion of silver-haired’ supporters who tend to die and their offspring move away. One of the factors which no doubt attracted the franchisees is that Town’s fan base has always been much bigger than those who turn up to the game - streaming makes the income much greater than just match day revenue whilst they await TV income


So, you are saying that virtually all of our crowd travels from outside Suffolk?

What makes you say there are few Town fans in Ipswich?

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Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 12:10 - Oct 25 with 829 viewsBloomBlue

Sudbury was one of the London overspill areas which if I remember continued into the 60s poss 70s. Maybe many of those moved with their family london football club alligence ie people today support a London club because Dad, granddad, great granddad etc etc supported that club.
Throw in kids will often support a club at the top like Man City irrelevant of where they live. We all know the Town history but many dont.
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