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Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? 08:19 - Jan 9 with 13677 viewsSitfcB

If it’s a mens football match surely ‘man of the match’ is fine. In women’s football you can have woman of the match, although they always use to say man of the match as well at lower level, and shout nuts!!

It’s now ‘player of the match’ or has been for a little while now.

Clive Tyldesley said man of the match yesterday but then corrected himself to player of the match, which made me think, that’s all.
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Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:22 - Jan 9 with 13654 viewsCheltenham_Blue

I can only assume, it's to do with not assuming pronouns.
Literally cannot see any other reason

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Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:22 - Jan 9 with 13664 viewsitfcjoe

I think 'Man of the Match' has been trademarked or something silly like that - that is why Football Manager had to go from Man of the Match to Player of the Match

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Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:26 - Jan 9 with 13576 viewsGeoffSentence

Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:22 - Jan 9 by itfcjoe

I think 'Man of the Match' has been trademarked or something silly like that - that is why Football Manager had to go from Man of the Match to Player of the Match


fck me, it has.

https://news.sky.com/story/man-of-the-match-catchphrase-trademark-sold-10469445

That's ridiculous.

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Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:30 - Jan 9 with 13508 viewsBloomBlue

Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:26 - Jan 9 by GeoffSentence

fck me, it has.

https://news.sky.com/story/man-of-the-match-catchphrase-trademark-sold-10469445

That's ridiculous.


Yes, it's been trademarked for a long time, I think the issue arose when the owner sold it in 2012ish, and the new owners started enforcing it.

Although I believe you can still use it as an expression/award after a match but TV companies moved away from the expression partly because of the enforcement.
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Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:35 - Jan 9 with 13418 viewsSitfcB

Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:26 - Jan 9 by GeoffSentence

fck me, it has.

https://news.sky.com/story/man-of-the-match-catchphrase-trademark-sold-10469445

That's ridiculous.


Ha bloody hell, didn’t realise that, I’m sure they’ve used the phrase since then but perhaps they didn’t want to pay for the rights anymore.

How ridiculous.

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Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:37 - Jan 9 with 13392 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:26 - Jan 9 by GeoffSentence

fck me, it has.

https://news.sky.com/story/man-of-the-match-catchphrase-trademark-sold-10469445

That's ridiculous.


Wow.

Even more wow that there are companies out the just trademarking catchphrases that are already in common use.

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Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:40 - Jan 9 with 13353 viewshoppy

Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:37 - Jan 9 by Cheltenham_Blue

Wow.

Even more wow that there are companies out the just trademarking catchphrases that are already in common use.


I'm afraid you're going to be hearing from my solicitors with a water tight contract to sign, as I own the rights to the phrase "Even more wow", so your using of it just now comes at a price.

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Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:44 - Jan 9 with 13310 viewsGeoffSentence

Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:37 - Jan 9 by Cheltenham_Blue

Wow.

Even more wow that there are companies out the just trademarking catchphrases that are already in common use.


It's nuts isn't it. I don't understand how anyone can claim ownership of phrases that are in common use.

Makes me wonder if I can make money out of this somehow.

Perhaps I'll trademark GOAL! and charge any of you lot who use it on here. (If it hasn't been already)

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Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:44 - Jan 9 with 13302 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:40 - Jan 9 by hoppy

I'm afraid you're going to be hearing from my solicitors with a water tight contract to sign, as I own the rights to the phrase "Even more wow", so your using of it just now comes at a price.

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Thanks I'll file it under 'C'

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Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:46 - Jan 9 with 13254 viewshoppy

Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:44 - Jan 9 by GeoffSentence

It's nuts isn't it. I don't understand how anyone can claim ownership of phrases that are in common use.

Makes me wonder if I can make money out of this somehow.

Perhaps I'll trademark GOAL! and charge any of you lot who use it on here. (If it hasn't been already)


I’ll register “Today’s team” I think - I’ll make a killing off Sitters alone!

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Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:50 - Jan 9 with 13227 viewsDJR

Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:26 - Jan 9 by GeoffSentence

fck me, it has.

https://news.sky.com/story/man-of-the-match-catchphrase-trademark-sold-10469445

That's ridiculous.


It is very difficult to understand how such an expression could ever be trademarked given its common and presumably worldwide use (including in everyday speech) for as long as I can remember.

It looks like the Premier League still use the phrase, but presumably they pay for the privilege.

https://www.premierleague.com/man-of-the-match

Incidentally, Player of the Match also appears to be trademarked.

https://www.trademarkelite.com/uk/trademark/trademark-detail/UK00003641699/PLAYE

What a crazy world we live in, where everything has a price.
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Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:56 - Jan 9 with 13171 viewsGeoffSentence

Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:50 - Jan 9 by DJR

It is very difficult to understand how such an expression could ever be trademarked given its common and presumably worldwide use (including in everyday speech) for as long as I can remember.

It looks like the Premier League still use the phrase, but presumably they pay for the privilege.

https://www.premierleague.com/man-of-the-match

Incidentally, Player of the Match also appears to be trademarked.

https://www.trademarkelite.com/uk/trademark/trademark-detail/UK00003641699/PLAYE

What a crazy world we live in, where everything has a price.
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I could kind of see the point where the registering organisation had some reasonable claim, the FA for instance might be able to argue that the phrase 'man of the match' was coined by them, HM Government could definitey argue that 'keep calm and carry on' is theirs or Frankie Goes To Hollywood's representatives could reasonably say if anyone is going to make money from 'Frankie says...' it should be us. But random organisations taking ownership of phrases just by registering them makes no sense.

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Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:56 - Jan 9 with 13166 viewsCityBlue

sod it, I am going to trademark "back of the net" and "on me head"

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Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:59 - Jan 9 with 13150 viewsitfc48

Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:50 - Jan 9 by DJR

It is very difficult to understand how such an expression could ever be trademarked given its common and presumably worldwide use (including in everyday speech) for as long as I can remember.

It looks like the Premier League still use the phrase, but presumably they pay for the privilege.

https://www.premierleague.com/man-of-the-match

Incidentally, Player of the Match also appears to be trademarked.

https://www.trademarkelite.com/uk/trademark/trademark-detail/UK00003641699/PLAYE

What a crazy world we live in, where everything has a price.
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Looks to also be the same people that originally trademarked man of the match all those years ago. I'll imagine they'll go and sell it again after a few years and then what? Performer of the match? Sportsperson of the match?
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Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 09:01 - Jan 9 with 13123 viewsiamatractorboy

Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:22 - Jan 9 by itfcjoe

I think 'Man of the Match' has been trademarked or something silly like that - that is why Football Manager had to go from Man of the Match to Player of the Match


I think I'll trademark 'Norwich City Nil'. I'll make a killing.
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Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 09:07 - Jan 9 with 13025 viewsDJR

Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:56 - Jan 9 by GeoffSentence

I could kind of see the point where the registering organisation had some reasonable claim, the FA for instance might be able to argue that the phrase 'man of the match' was coined by them, HM Government could definitey argue that 'keep calm and carry on' is theirs or Frankie Goes To Hollywood's representatives could reasonably say if anyone is going to make money from 'Frankie says...' it should be us. But random organisations taking ownership of phrases just by registering them makes no sense.


I couldn't agree more.
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Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 09:19 - Jan 9 with 12930 viewsBloomBlue

Why is man of the match not allowed anymore? on 08:50 - Jan 9 by DJR

It is very difficult to understand how such an expression could ever be trademarked given its common and presumably worldwide use (including in everyday speech) for as long as I can remember.

It looks like the Premier League still use the phrase, but presumably they pay for the privilege.

https://www.premierleague.com/man-of-the-match

Incidentally, Player of the Match also appears to be trademarked.

https://www.trademarkelite.com/uk/trademark/trademark-detail/UK00003641699/PLAYE

What a crazy world we live in, where everything has a price.
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I think the issue is the trademark was assigned (amongst many) against the broadcast of TV and Radio. That technically means if you created a show and called it Man of the Match you would have to pay a fee to the trademark owner, but it doesn't cover the use of that that expression so TV could still award it and use the expression. But to be 100% sure they aren't breaking the trademark they have decided to play safe, although not sure why they decided that.
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