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Burns 13:36 - Feb 22 with 4223 viewstractorboy1978

This season so far - 7 goals, 8 assists
Last season - 13 goals, 6 assists

He's probably going to end the season with similar or more goal/assist contributions, yet feels like he hasn't been the same player this season. You can see why he's a first name on the team sheet though, even at less than full capacity he's still our 3rd most effective player in an attacking sense.

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Burns on 08:26 - Feb 24 with 376 viewsjayessess

Burns on 19:07 - Feb 23 by Swansea_Blue

He’s got more assists than that - 6 to 9 depending which source you look at. He’s joint third top goal scorer and second for assists. So whilst not threatening the whole league table, he’s still chipping in and contributing more than most for us.


Harness? Says 2 on whoscored and 3 on transfermarkt (who credit him with a deflected cross to TJJ in the home game against Cambridge).

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Burns on 08:38 - Feb 24 with 366 viewsitfcjoe

Burns on 19:07 - Feb 23 by Swansea_Blue

He’s got more assists than that - 6 to 9 depending which source you look at. He’s joint third top goal scorer and second for assists. So whilst not threatening the whole league table, he’s still chipping in and contributing more than most for us.


That was Harness

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Burns on 08:46 - Feb 24 with 339 viewsStokieBlue

Burns on 19:07 - Feb 23 by Swansea_Blue

He’s got more assists than that - 6 to 9 depending which source you look at. He’s joint third top goal scorer and second for assists. So whilst not threatening the whole league table, he’s still chipping in and contributing more than most for us.


Which source are you using?

BBC says Harness has 2 assists. Assists aren't really his thing, he doesn't lay on many chances, he's more likely to take the shot and thus more likely to have stats skewed towards goals than assists.

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Burns on 09:00 - Feb 24 with 319 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Burns on 13:46 - Feb 22 by StokieBlue

Says 6 goals, 7 assists here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/ipswich-town/top-scorers

Your point on Burns is of course still entirely valid.

On this link, Davis is miles ahead of everyone on chances created per 90 minutes:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/ipswich-town/top-scorers/assists

2.56 chances per 90 (for comparison, Burns has 1.06).

Given their actual assists are similar, I think that does highlight that some players have missed a fair few good chances that Davis puts on a plate (Hirst on the weekend for instance).

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Whats interesting about the BBC stats is that on the 'top assists' for League one. Davis is 2nd on chances created per game with only Barry Bannan ahead of him on 3.04. But the only other Town player in the top 24 is Burns.

Given the number of goals we've scored, I'm surprised at that.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-one/top-scorers/assists
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Burns on 09:10 - Feb 24 with 306 viewsStokieBlue

Burns on 09:00 - Feb 24 by Cheltenham_Blue

Whats interesting about the BBC stats is that on the 'top assists' for League one. Davis is 2nd on chances created per game with only Barry Bannan ahead of him on 3.04. But the only other Town player in the top 24 is Burns.

Given the number of goals we've scored, I'm surprised at that.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-one/top-scorers/assists
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You mean "chances created per game" not "assists" I assume?

That is surprising but I think that can be explained, Davis has put a lot of chances on a plate for players who have missed them (Celina had a similar thing last season) which makes his assists lowered than they should be in reality. An example is the Hirst chance from the last match where it was easier to score than miss - realistically Davis should have had two assists in that match at least.

Conversely it could be that chances from others are being converted more often, this could be player related, maybe a lot of chances Davis creates don't fall to Chaplin who is our most clinical finisher.

So surprising as you say but not impossible.

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Burns on 09:27 - Feb 24 with 292 viewsitfcjoe

Burns on 09:10 - Feb 24 by StokieBlue

You mean "chances created per game" not "assists" I assume?

That is surprising but I think that can be explained, Davis has put a lot of chances on a plate for players who have missed them (Celina had a similar thing last season) which makes his assists lowered than they should be in reality. An example is the Hirst chance from the last match where it was easier to score than miss - realistically Davis should have had two assists in that match at least.

Conversely it could be that chances from others are being converted more often, this could be player related, maybe a lot of chances Davis creates don't fall to Chaplin who is our most clinical finisher.

So surprising as you say but not impossible.

SB


And don't forget set pieces - Davis now takes everything so that bumps it up a lot - I imagine the top 15 are set piece takers

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Burns on 09:32 - Feb 24 with 286 viewsStokieBlue

Burns on 09:27 - Feb 24 by itfcjoe

And don't forget set pieces - Davis now takes everything so that bumps it up a lot - I imagine the top 15 are set piece takers


Indeed.

Although it would be interesting if they actually defined what the metric "chance created" actually meant.

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Burns on 10:48 - Feb 24 with 269 viewsitfcjoe

Burns on 09:32 - Feb 24 by StokieBlue

Indeed.

Although it would be interesting if they actually defined what the metric "chance created" actually meant.

SB


Yep, or split it between open play and set pieces

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Burns on 11:01 - Feb 24 with 255 viewsjayessess

Burns on 09:32 - Feb 24 by StokieBlue

Indeed.

Although it would be interesting if they actually defined what the metric "chance created" actually meant.

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I know with "key passes" it's just that the next player to touch it had a shot.

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