| Best places to live on 16:20 - Mar 24 with 549 views | ronnyd |
| Best places to live on 14:02 - Mar 24 by giant_stow |
Read a lot of put downs on Haverhill on here over the years - is it really that bad!? |
No, it's worse.  |  | |  |
| Best places to live on 16:24 - Mar 24 with 521 views | giant_stow |
| Best places to live on 16:20 - Mar 24 by ronnyd |
No, it's worse. |
Steady now! |  |
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| Best places to live on 16:28 - Mar 24 with 502 views | factual_blue |
| Best places to live on 15:55 - Mar 24 by giant_stow |
True story: my brother just bought a chalet in Hemsby. |
He's also your uncle, right? |  |
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| Best places to live on 16:29 - Mar 24 with 497 views | ronnyd |
| Best places to live on 16:24 - Mar 24 by giant_stow |
Steady now! |
I escaped to Bury St Eds over fifty years ago.  | | | |
| Best places to live on 16:36 - Mar 24 with 481 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Best places to live on 15:59 - Mar 24 by DJR |
I think that is a bit unfair. The centre of Liverpool and especially the waterfront is amazing.
And according to Wikipedia, Liverpool has the second highest number of art galleries, national museums, listed buildings, and listed parks in the UK; only the capital, London, has more.
And let's not forget Crosby Beach and Anthony Gormley's Iron Men, which I visited last week when at the in-laws in Crosby.
https://heretotravel.com/iron-men-crosby-beach-liverpool/
EDIT: if you visit Crosby Beach, look out for the quicksand. [Post edited 24 Mar 2023 16:04]
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To be fair I haven't seen a lot of Liverpool. And the weather's always been sh!t when I've gone.
But it's a massive place, and has a large student population, so the amount of galleries, museums etc. isn't that surprising. |  |
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| Best places to live on 16:37 - Mar 24 with 481 views | PhilTWTD |
| Best places to live on 14:05 - Mar 24 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Pffft try Grays, Thurrock, or Basildon. They make Burnley look appealing. |
My dad was from Grays! |  | | |
| Best places to live on 16:42 - Mar 24 with 462 views | leitrimblue |
| Best places to live on 16:29 - Mar 24 by ronnyd |
I escaped to Bury St Eds over fifty years ago. |
You escaped Haverhill to move to Bury? Where do you go on holiday Tehran? |  | | |
| Best places to live on 16:44 - Mar 24 with 461 views | leitrimblue |
| Best places to live on 16:03 - Mar 24 by giant_stow |
Thats very kind ! |
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| Best places to live on 16:50 - Mar 24 with 440 views | DJR |
| Best places to live on 16:37 - Mar 24 by PhilTWTD |
My dad was from Grays! |
I had some friends who lived in Tilbury for a while back in the 1980s, and it was odd to come back from the pub when I visited them to find wild horses in the streets.
I believe they had been formerly used in the docks, and maybe they didn't venture as far as Grays itself, which adjoins Tilbury. |  | | |
| Best places to live on 16:55 - Mar 24 with 432 views | solemio |
| Best places to live on 15:59 - Mar 24 by DJR |
I think that is a bit unfair. The centre of Liverpool and especially the waterfront is amazing.
And according to Wikipedia, Liverpool has the second highest number of art galleries, national museums, listed buildings, and listed parks in the UK; only the capital, London, has more.
And let's not forget Crosby Beach and Anthony Gormley's Iron Men, which I visited last week when at the in-laws in Crosby.
https://heretotravel.com/iron-men-crosby-beach-liverpool/
EDIT: if you visit Crosby Beach, look out for the quicksand. [Post edited 24 Mar 2023 16:04]
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Liverpool also has more Georgian houses than Bath. An interesting Chinese quarter too. | | | |
| Best places to live on 17:37 - Mar 24 with 411 views | DJR |
| Best places to live on 16:55 - Mar 24 by solemio |
Liverpool also has more Georgian houses than Bath. An interesting Chinese quarter too. |
Liverpool is also a World Heritage Site.
https://www.liverpoolworldheritage.com/ | | | |
| Best places to live on 17:42 - Mar 24 with 407 views | factual_blue |
| Best places to live on 16:44 - Mar 24 by leitrimblue |
You've never met the mother |
Your name is Norman Bates and I claim my £5. | |
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| Best places to live on 17:44 - Mar 24 with 411 views | MattinLondon |
| Best places to live on 15:59 - Mar 24 by DJR |
I think that is a bit unfair. The centre of Liverpool and especially the waterfront is amazing.
And according to Wikipedia, Liverpool has the second highest number of art galleries, national museums, listed buildings, and listed parks in the UK; only the capital, London, has more.
And let's not forget Crosby Beach and Anthony Gormley's Iron Men, which I visited last week when at the in-laws in Crosby.
https://heretotravel.com/iron-men-crosby-beach-liverpool/
EDIT: if you visit Crosby Beach, look out for the quicksand. [Post edited 24 Mar 2023 16:04]
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Liverpool carries a lot of weight from the 70s and 80s when there were riots and a lot of poverty. Now, the city centre is full of interesting shops, galleries, is modern, with a lot of cultural high points as well as as numerous excellent restaurants. Same can be said for Manchester and Leeds. All three cities aren’t at all perfect but they offer both beauty and vibrancy.
Obviously it’s foolish to compare to London (which is in a league of its own) but when you take away the tourist gloss of the capital, and the extremely expensive areas, a lot of London is flat and offers little apart from pollution and despair. |  | | |
| Best places to live on 18:19 - Mar 24 with 382 views | DJR |
| Best places to live on 17:44 - Mar 24 by MattinLondon |
Liverpool carries a lot of weight from the 70s and 80s when there were riots and a lot of poverty. Now, the city centre is full of interesting shops, galleries, is modern, with a lot of cultural high points as well as as numerous excellent restaurants. Same can be said for Manchester and Leeds. All three cities aren’t at all perfect but they offer both beauty and vibrancy.
Obviously it’s foolish to compare to London (which is in a league of its own) but when you take away the tourist gloss of the capital, and the extremely expensive areas, a lot of London is flat and offers little apart from pollution and despair. |
I'm not sure the especially bad reputation of Liverpool was ever fully justified, whatever problems it faced in those days.
Of course it had high unemployment and the Toxteth riots, but it wasn't alone when it came to either.
I do feel things like the Boys From The Blackstuff, Harry Enfield and the Militant Tendency especially tarred its image.
And it should be noted that, even in those days, things were not necessarily as bad as painted. Indeed, a Joseph Rowntree report indicated that the percentage of breadline poor households was roughly the same in Liverpool and Manchester in 1970, 1980, 1990 and 2000. And both of those cities had a lower proportion of breadline poor households than London in each of those years.
But maybe what also played a part in emphasising poverty in Liverpool was that the people didn't just lie down and take it, to my mind a very admirable characteristic. [Post edited 24 Mar 2023 21:38]
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| Best places to live on 20:27 - Mar 24 with 334 views | Oldsmoker |
| Best places to live on 16:37 - Mar 24 by PhilTWTD |
My dad was from Grays! |
So we know your likely birthplace.
....and your mothers maiden name was? |  |
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