| Style 20:43 - Apr 11 with 3060 views | FrimleyBlue |
Said it a few times before, but watching another man city game tonight and it's clear as day how similar the styles are that Pep and Km try to put out on the pitch
I do hope we make it out of this league soon as i've said before, I do feel KM's style is certainly higher level and Jan signings after a month of bedding in, have helped him to match the results to the style and yesturday using Harness is an example of how you really do need everyone at a certain level for it to work and shows up those who aren't quite at such levels.
I know people will see that as quite a scapegoating comment about Harness, it's not overly negative on purpose, it's just you really could see the difference in our play with him in the side compared to Broadhead, it was night and day. That's not a fault of Harness, he just isn't 'that level' needed imo. |  |
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| Style on 20:49 - Apr 11 with 2994 views | J2BLUE |
Harness definitely isn't Broadhead. I don't think anyone would argue with that. He has contributed well this season but I would imagine he's one who way well be on the way out in the summer, especially if we go up. Not a bad player at all and would walk into most teams in league one outside the top six but he's not Broadhead/Chaplin level. That's not really much of a criticism though as those two are Championship players in the wrong league. |  |
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| Style on 21:20 - Apr 11 with 2884 views | Wacko |
| Style on 20:49 - Apr 11 by J2BLUE |
Harness definitely isn't Broadhead. I don't think anyone would argue with that. He has contributed well this season but I would imagine he's one who way well be on the way out in the summer, especially if we go up. Not a bad player at all and would walk into most teams in league one outside the top six but he's not Broadhead/Chaplin level. That's not really much of a criticism though as those two are Championship players in the wrong league. |
Yeah exactly. Broadhead - Hirst - Chaplin are decent Championship whereas Harness - Ladapo - Edwards are decent League One. And I think only Edwards with a lot of hard work can step up. Anyone saying they’re still just as confident with Harness instead of Broadhead is loopy |  |
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| Style on 22:17 - Apr 11 with 2650 views | BigCommon |
I'd say the same about Humphreys atm, tbh. Which I know some people won't like. But the difference between him and Luonogo, is at least, a similar level of difference, as Harness to Broadhead. If not more, imo...Of course, CH, has a potentially much higher ceiling to reach, yet, whereas MH looks to have reached his...
The one sort of game, where you really need a Broadhead type player to unlock a stubborn opposition, would be Cheltenham away. Just bad luck, that he was injured for that one..
Agree, that our game, is probably more suited to higher division. After watching our game on ifollow, then watching E FL highlights a few hours later. The pitch sizes and condition in Championship games, were like , worlds apart, from what we played on at Chelt'. |  | | |
| Style on 22:22 - Apr 11 with 2626 views | Coastalblue |
| Style on 22:17 - Apr 11 by BigCommon |
I'd say the same about Humphreys atm, tbh. Which I know some people won't like. But the difference between him and Luonogo, is at least, a similar level of difference, as Harness to Broadhead. If not more, imo...Of course, CH, has a potentially much higher ceiling to reach, yet, whereas MH looks to have reached his...
The one sort of game, where you really need a Broadhead type player to unlock a stubborn opposition, would be Cheltenham away. Just bad luck, that he was injured for that one..
Agree, that our game, is probably more suited to higher division. After watching our game on ifollow, then watching E FL highlights a few hours later. The pitch sizes and condition in Championship games, were like , worlds apart, from what we played on at Chelt'. |
Humphreys plays in a pivotal position and in a role that could dictate games, unlikely he would really get to grips with until he has a lot of games under his belt and has hit his mid to late 20's. The fear for him is that we develop and grow faster than he does and he's always destined to be on the periphary, you would assume he will be sent on loan somewhere next season where can get a full season of football under his belt. |  |
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| Style on 22:44 - Apr 11 with 2537 views | BigCommon |
| Style on 22:22 - Apr 11 by Coastalblue |
Humphreys plays in a pivotal position and in a role that could dictate games, unlikely he would really get to grips with until he has a lot of games under his belt and has hit his mid to late 20's. The fear for him is that we develop and grow faster than he does and he's always destined to be on the periphary, you would assume he will be sent on loan somewhere next season where can get a full season of football under his belt. |
Think our improvement is so rapid under KM. There could be one or two that just won't or can't keep up.
Likewise, there are a few that are embracing the challenge and seem to be reaching a new level. I mean Chappers, for example. We knew he was a good player, but he's gone up a level under KM, imo.. Burgess and Ladapo I'd stick in the "improved" category, too. And Edwards looks hungrier.
Bringing some higher calibre players in, like Leif, Broadhead, Clarke, Luongo is helping to set a higher benchmark throughout the squad.. We 'll just have wait and see who can keep up with the standards, which, I'm sure will keep improving...
Probably a conversation best saved untill the end of the season. | | | |
| Style on 03:17 - Apr 12 with 2322 views | PioneerBlue |
I’m surprised Humphries was not the go to Broadhead replacement.
The central midfield at this stage of the season is a lot to ask, there is a lot of responsibility there and a lot of protecting of defenders in that position. Humphries was shown to be lightweight in several games, whereas the 10/attacking midfielder comes with a little less defensive responsibility which could suit Humphries at this stage of his dev. He has also shown an eye for a shot and constant running for supporting the press in games where that’s important. | |
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| Style on 21:15 - Apr 12 with 1890 views | itfctilidie |
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| Style on 21:25 - Apr 12 with 1860 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Style on 21:15 - Apr 12 by itfctilidie |
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Excellent.
They haven't watched us this season to understand the comparisons in style. They play a good standard of league 1 football which has been successful for them so I have no need to belittle what they do as they've done it well. But when you see town play and actually watch the comparative runs of players. Phases of play. Bravery at the back etc.. it's clear the style town play is of prem standard backed up with the stats to go alongside it.
However.. we are not a prem team nor even championship but it doesn't mean that's not what we are trying to achieve. | |
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| Style on 00:47 - Apr 13 with 1654 views | BigCommon |
| Style on 21:25 - Apr 12 by FrimleyBlue |
Excellent.
They haven't watched us this season to understand the comparisons in style. They play a good standard of league 1 football which has been successful for them so I have no need to belittle what they do as they've done it well. But when you see town play and actually watch the comparative runs of players. Phases of play. Bravery at the back etc.. it's clear the style town play is of prem standard backed up with the stats to go alongside it.
However.. we are not a prem team nor even championship but it doesn't mean that's not what we are trying to achieve. |
Just browsed the Owls Squawk thread.. Mixed bag. Some sensible comments tbf...
Think their OP missed the point, though..
"Similar playing style to Pep side" is not the same as claiming to be as good as, them.
On a side note. Can't think of any SW player that's gets into our side. Cant even squeeze Bannan in atm. He definitely wouldnt make our team any worse. But not sure,either, if hes an up grade on Broadhead, Chappers or Burns at this moment in time.
And he definitely wouldnt last more than a half at our workrate..
Probably get one or two of theirs, on our bench. But they are so drilled into playing that awful Darren Moore hoof ball. And most of them are so old now, they'd find it hard to leave the 1990's mindset and play a more modern brand of football..
Looks like it's going to the wire..I won't mind if Barnsley do them in PO's. | | | |
| Style on 04:53 - Apr 13 with 1588 views | Chrisd |
| Style on 00:47 - Apr 13 by BigCommon |
Just browsed the Owls Squawk thread.. Mixed bag. Some sensible comments tbf...
Think their OP missed the point, though..
"Similar playing style to Pep side" is not the same as claiming to be as good as, them.
On a side note. Can't think of any SW player that's gets into our side. Cant even squeeze Bannan in atm. He definitely wouldnt make our team any worse. But not sure,either, if hes an up grade on Broadhead, Chappers or Burns at this moment in time.
And he definitely wouldnt last more than a half at our workrate..
Probably get one or two of theirs, on our bench. But they are so drilled into playing that awful Darren Moore hoof ball. And most of them are so old now, they'd find it hard to leave the 1990's mindset and play a more modern brand of football..
Looks like it's going to the wire..I won't mind if Barnsley do them in PO's. |
‘There is more than one way to skin a cat.’ Football would be extremely boring if all teams played in the same manner. Yes, we play a very decent brand of football in L1, but ultimately it’s all about winning games and if Wednesday choose to do it in a different way, then so be it. Over the last two seasons they have culminated more points than we have in this league with their direct style of play and let’s not forget before our terrific run of results recently ‘some’ on here were starting to question KM and his tactics and wondering whether we needed to change our style of play as it wasn’t conducive to L1 football. The fact we are on this great run those same voices of descent have quieten right down because we are winning football matches and find ourselves right in the promotion shake up. There’s no need to belittle other sides’ style of play in my view, ultimately if it gets them results who are we to question it?! | |
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| Style on 10:10 - Apr 13 with 1390 views | jp_itfc |
| Style on 00:47 - Apr 13 by BigCommon |
Just browsed the Owls Squawk thread.. Mixed bag. Some sensible comments tbf...
Think their OP missed the point, though..
"Similar playing style to Pep side" is not the same as claiming to be as good as, them.
On a side note. Can't think of any SW player that's gets into our side. Cant even squeeze Bannan in atm. He definitely wouldnt make our team any worse. But not sure,either, if hes an up grade on Broadhead, Chappers or Burns at this moment in time.
And he definitely wouldnt last more than a half at our workrate..
Probably get one or two of theirs, on our bench. But they are so drilled into playing that awful Darren Moore hoof ball. And most of them are so old now, they'd find it hard to leave the 1990's mindset and play a more modern brand of football..
Looks like it's going to the wire..I won't mind if Barnsley do them in PO's. |
Wouldn't call Darren Moore's style hoof ball. 6th most short passes in lg1, 3rd for accurate long passes. Efficient yes, but definitely not hoof ball. Been a lazy stereotype throughout the season. | | | |
| Style on 12:27 - Apr 13 with 1287 views | BigCommon |
| Style on 04:53 - Apr 13 by Chrisd |
‘There is more than one way to skin a cat.’ Football would be extremely boring if all teams played in the same manner. Yes, we play a very decent brand of football in L1, but ultimately it’s all about winning games and if Wednesday choose to do it in a different way, then so be it. Over the last two seasons they have culminated more points than we have in this league with their direct style of play and let’s not forget before our terrific run of results recently ‘some’ on here were starting to question KM and his tactics and wondering whether we needed to change our style of play as it wasn’t conducive to L1 football. The fact we are on this great run those same voices of descent have quieten right down because we are winning football matches and find ourselves right in the promotion shake up. There’s no need to belittle other sides’ style of play in my view, ultimately if it gets them results who are we to question it?! |
Yes, there are many ways to skin a cat..
My point is, they only know one way.
Hoof it up to Smith. If that doesn't work, chuck a CB up there and hoof it up to both of them. It's an awfully predictable watch.
McKenna football is a joy to watch. Goals from all over the pitch. Quick counter attacking goals, pass and move goals, set piece goals. Multiple goal scorers per game. A style of play that requires a lot of hard work and intelligence. Can't remember a season where I purred over so many different goals...
Darren Moore and his football are a lazy stereotype from the 1990s.. | | | |
| Style on 21:19 - Apr 13 with 1108 views | Stewart27 |
| Style on 12:27 - Apr 13 by BigCommon |
Yes, there are many ways to skin a cat..
My point is, they only know one way.
Hoof it up to Smith. If that doesn't work, chuck a CB up there and hoof it up to both of them. It's an awfully predictable watch.
McKenna football is a joy to watch. Goals from all over the pitch. Quick counter attacking goals, pass and move goals, set piece goals. Multiple goal scorers per game. A style of play that requires a lot of hard work and intelligence. Can't remember a season where I purred over so many different goals...
Darren Moore and his football are a lazy stereotype from the 1990s.. |
Agree 100%.
They are effective but ugly.
Let’s hope beauty wins the race. | | | |
| Style on 04:56 - Apr 14 with 949 views | PioneerBlue |
Despite purring KMcKball we have won nothing nor achieved much this far as mentioned earlier in thread (let’s not underplay the turning of a few records over the last year).
There really is no oneway to get out of this league, that’s the important thing, being able to do it with a style that is eye pleasing is nice but Sheff Wed may still prove successful doing what they do and it worked for Wigan, Rotherham and Sunderland last season.
I for one believe KMcKball has a much higher ceiling but we still have to deliver a promotion.
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| Style on 14:13 - Apr 14 with 746 views | BigCommon |
| Style on 04:56 - Apr 14 by PioneerBlue |
Despite purring KMcKball we have won nothing nor achieved much this far as mentioned earlier in thread (let’s not underplay the turning of a few records over the last year).
There really is no oneway to get out of this league, that’s the important thing, being able to do it with a style that is eye pleasing is nice but Sheff Wed may still prove successful doing what they do and it worked for Wigan, Rotherham and Sunderland last season.
I for one believe KMcKball has a much higher ceiling but we still have to deliver a promotion.
OGAAT. [Post edited 14 Apr 2023 5:48]
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And yet we've done 21k season tickets for next season, without winning a thing... Which speaks volumes, for how happy the fan base is, with what they are watching.
Personally, promotion would be great, and is integral to us progressing as a football club. But, primarily,I'm happy to be watching good football, regardless of wether or not we go up. It feels like a reward in itself , for me.
When you think about it, winning matches with amazing football in front of packed houses, is what we all want. And it's what we've got, atm. So our position in the league paramid, is irrelevant in that respect.
Of course, to sustain it all, we will need to move up the pyramid, or all this will be shortlived.. But right now, the feeling of excitement, anticipation for each game and above all, pride for our club, takes me right back to SBR, era. And, I think there are a lot of older fans, that have prayed for this vibe to return to the club.. And it's got nothing to do with winning trophies, atm, imo. As ST sales are proving.
To say we've not achieved much, is, well, a bit confusing to me. We've achieved loads since KM arrived. And we've got our club buzzing again.. Football clubs are the lifeblood of communities. And in our case, the whole County. There's more to being a successful club, than a tin cup with a date on it. Although, don't get me wrong, a tin cup with a date on it, would be a nice thing, too. | | | |
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