| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? 17:20 - Apr 17 with 3627 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
The recent visit to Cheltenham got me thinking. Now I know this will come across to some as elitist. But I don't think many of the stadia in L1 are good enough. The rules are:
"The Football League requires that the ground occupied by a club promoted to League 2 must have a certified capacity of at least 4,000 (with the ability to be increased to 5,000) which shall include at least 500 seats (with the ability to be increased to 1,000).
By 1 May in its first season as a Member of the Football League, the club is required to have a certified capacity of 5,000 which shall include at least 1000 seats (with the ability to be increased to 2,000).
By 1 May in its third season as a Member of the Football League, the club is required to have a certified capacity of 5,000 which shall include at least 2,000 seats. "
The same applies to clubs in L1.
The pitch at non league Bracknell (Sandhurst) was better than at Cheltenham. The catering was better. Cheltenham had one small window serving all the away fans. Things like size of the pitch, the capacity, the facilities including toilets, catering, etc. do not reflect the level and standard that should be expected. These small clubs are charging £27 per ticket for an experience that is worse than you would expect at e.g. a local golf course. A lot of the problem may be that all the money in the game goes into the Premier League and not enough trickles down to the lower leagues. Surely the interest in, and size of some of the clubs that find themselves in L1 , should require that standards of the stadiums are raised?
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| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 17:23 - Apr 17 with 3578 views | xrayspecs |
Clubs who get 20-30k attendances should not conspire to play in L1.
Bracknell is not a typical non-league ground. |  | | |
| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 17:24 - Apr 17 with 3561 views | J2BLUE |
No |  |
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| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 17:28 - Apr 17 with 3535 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Playing surfaces are a 'place of work' and so are covered under employment law, and cannot be included in league requirement.
Genuinely.
The problem with clubs like Cheltenham, (for example) is they are living a hand to mouth existence and could go out of business with just one badly thought out transfer. Their facilities will never equal ours. |  |
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| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 17:28 - Apr 17 with 3526 views | textbackup |
Sure I read Luton need £10m improvements to meet prem league rules |  |
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| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 17:30 - Apr 17 with 3519 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 17:28 - Apr 17 by textbackup |
Sure I read Luton need £10m improvements to meet prem league rules |
Prem rules are vastly different. Upgrading the lighting for VAR alone will cost them well over a million.
Our lighting will also need upgrading once we get back there | |
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| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 17:31 - Apr 17 with 3519 views | earlsgreenblue |
Funnily enough I was talking to her in doors the other day about that shambles of a ground Brighton used whilst their new Amex was being built. You had to park & get a free bus in which left fans like me & my boy with a 3.5 hr drive only to arrive at the ground & find it shut, opening 1 hr before kickoff, no loos, food or drink service at all, & the car a bus ride away, then of course MKD when they used the National Hockey stadium or whatever it was, did not feel safe all those fans on a hastily built scaffold pole gantry, when we scored I thought it was going to collapse. | | | |
| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 17:37 - Apr 17 with 3477 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 17:28 - Apr 17 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Playing surfaces are a 'place of work' and so are covered under employment law, and cannot be included in league requirement.
Genuinely.
The problem with clubs like Cheltenham, (for example) is they are living a hand to mouth existence and could go out of business with just one badly thought out transfer. Their facilities will never equal ours. |
but they aren't even trying. How can a non league club like Bracknell have better catering than Cheltenham? It was disgraceful that they take fans for granted and have a tiny hut serving over 1,000 fans from a single window. I get that it is much more expensive to build new stands and bigger pitches, but clubs like Cheltenham aren't trying. Above all, there should be more money coming from the top of the football pyramid to the lower levels, but that doesn't excuse these clubs for not having better catering outlets. | |
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| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 17:46 - Apr 17 with 3412 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 17:37 - Apr 17 by LegendofthePhoenix |
but they aren't even trying. How can a non league club like Bracknell have better catering than Cheltenham? It was disgraceful that they take fans for granted and have a tiny hut serving over 1,000 fans from a single window. I get that it is much more expensive to build new stands and bigger pitches, but clubs like Cheltenham aren't trying. Above all, there should be more money coming from the top of the football pyramid to the lower levels, but that doesn't excuse these clubs for not having better catering outlets. |
Now you are sounding elitist. Not many attend football for the catering.
Cheltenham's average away attendance is probably around 300-400, they certainly wouldn't expect to see the 1,100 that we took each and every week and having worked there many times, that one catering outlet normally copes very well with their normal away support.
Theres nothing in the ground regulations about having catering facilities, and even if they were, should they have to provide additional facilities, and all the associated costs of staff, stock, insurance etc, just for the 2 or 3 times a season that they will actually need it?
The point is, they don't have to do it, so why should they if it is money they can't normally recoup? We know nothing of Bracknell's set up, nor their catering arrangements. [Post edited 17 Apr 2023 18:17]
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| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 17:50 - Apr 17 with 3367 views | SitfcB |
| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 17:28 - Apr 17 by textbackup |
Sure I read Luton need £10m improvements to meet prem league rules |
On that subject, would be f’king brilliant to see them or Millwall make it up. |  |
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| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 17:54 - Apr 17 with 3318 views | Keno |
| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 17:28 - Apr 17 by textbackup |
Sure I read Luton need £10m improvements to meet prem league rules |
Is that to the ground or the town in general? |  |
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| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 17:55 - Apr 17 with 3305 views | ronnyd |
You're quite right, it does sound elitist. | | | |
| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 17:57 - Apr 17 with 3262 views | SitfcB |
| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 17:54 - Apr 17 by Keno |
Is that to the ground or the town in general? |
Missing a couple of zeros if it’s the town! | |
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| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 17:57 - Apr 17 with 3252 views | Illinoisblue |
| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 17:28 - Apr 17 by textbackup |
Sure I read Luton need £10m improvements to meet prem league rules |
I thought they were building a new stadium? |  |
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| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 18:02 - Apr 17 with 3217 views | textbackup |
| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 17:50 - Apr 17 by SitfcB |
On that subject, would be f’king brilliant to see them or Millwall make it up. |
I want Millwall to make it. Not sure they’ve ever spent over a million on a player, and seem to be top half of champ most years.
A lot of time for them | |
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| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 18:11 - Apr 17 with 3182 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Should there be higher minimum requirements for EFL stadiums? on 18:02 - Apr 17 by textbackup |
I want Millwall to make it. Not sure they’ve ever spent over a million on a player, and seem to be top half of champ most years.
A lot of time for them |
Have you watched them at all over the season? What style of football are they playing?
I assume Rowett has got them playing it to feet? | |
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