| Cost to be competitive 14:31 - May 9 with 4580 views | greyhound |
Another transfer thread I know, but a bit of a twist in this one.
Football has moved on a long way since we last had money to spend at championship level.
We have highly aspiring, project focussed owners who see the need to invest and the returns wise investments will bring the club. I think that's been well evidenced. The championship however does have a different spending environment attached to it.
I dont think big statement signings are always the answer but I do wonder if we will see our club transfer record broken this summer. We won't be held to ransom but I've got confidence that we will pay our way to get the players to build a squad to carry us forward. It's to early to say what the size of the "war chest" will be, but I'm confident we are going to be in unchartered territory.
If anything this summers business will prove to fans how serious we are about climbing fast vs a multi year build. |  | | |  |
| Cost to be competitive on 20:26 - May 9 with 687 views | xrayspecs |
| Cost to be competitive on 18:24 - May 9 by jayessess |
Counterpoint to that - you can be as patient as you like but a bad job or a bad season is always right around the corner as a football manager and it'll torch your reputation regardless of what comes beforehand.
You've mentioned Potter here and he's a great example of that. Patiently built his reputation through over 400 games at modest sized clubs - 7 seasons in Sweden, 1 and a bit at Swansea, 2 and a bit at Brighton - earns his shot at a Top 6 job. But he failed at the big one so he gets listed as an impatient Icarus who's flown to close to the Sun.
Think most managers learn that you take the opportunities that present themselves, because they won't come again and your stock can go up as well as down. Take Rob Edwards, everyone said he was daft to jump from League 2 to take the Watford job. He takes it, he fails, but suddenly he's on the Championship manager merry-go-round rather than the L1/L2 one. Or Mark Bonner, stays loyal to Cambridge United, doesn't take the Rotherham job, MK Dons hold on to their 4-1 lead and he's probably sacked with a relegation on his CV and nowhere near a Championship job ever again. Meanwhile Matt Taylor took that job, kept Rotherham up and probably guaranteed that his next couple of jobs are at that level too. [Post edited 9 May 2023 18:24]
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It is a fair challenge on Potter. My thinking was he should have stayed at Brighton longer when he was doing well rather than jump ship to a dysfunctional Chelsea.
KM has a better pedigree than all of the other lower league managers you mention, so not sure they are relevant comparisons. KM will be given the resources to be successful here, so should be in no hurry to chase a bigger job where expectations may be unrealistically high., | | | |
| Cost to be competitive on 20:53 - May 9 with 617 views | olimar |
| Cost to be competitive on 15:56 - May 9 by itfcjoe |
I think if you believe McKenna is a special manager than you need to back him to get us up a bit quicker because otherwise we'll simply lose him if we elect to take slow progress through the Champ |
Im not sure- think the type of club who might try and poach him are going to be not far away from our current trajectory for a few years.
i.e. right now, hes not going to be a target for PL clubs, but maybe those nearer the top end of the Championship. But right now, he has all the resource he will need, immense backroom support, stability on and off the pitch to think he can challenge any of those sides in the next year. Especially one that will likely have some level of dysfunction itself.
In 6-8 months time, if hes attracting interest from lower end PL clubs, it will be because we are in the top 8-10 in the Championship and moving forward further, whereas those lower end clubs will be struggling and again represent a risk that moving will put him in a situation to fail and trash his reputation.
I feel like the teams that will come after him are likely to be proportional to our own position and that will help us.
If hes to leave, its going to be for a decent, established PL club and with us already performing well.
Or its going to be if we lose momentum, backing or he isnt aligned with our management anymore (with Ashton, that could be possible). | | | |
| Cost to be competitive on 21:13 - May 9 with 597 views | HighgateBlue |
| Cost to be competitive on 15:09 - May 9 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Scott Twine |
He would be a great signing on paper, but with any player who's not already a proven Premier League performer (who we plainly could not attract), I find it so hard to know who we'd drop from the side! Whom does Twine oust?
In terms of how likely that kind of singing would be - he's still only 23 and surely still theoretically improving, and he played a bit for Burnley last season, so one would think there's a chance of them wanting to keep him. Although he's not likely to play more games in the Prem than the Champ you'd think, so maybe they'd be open to a loan, given that KMac's coaching is clearly the Mutt's nuts... |  | | |
| Cost to be competitive on 21:17 - May 9 with 595 views | olimar |
| Cost to be competitive on 18:03 - May 9 by xrayspecs |
KM comes across as very astute, and will know for the next few years (at least) he will be well supported by current owners.
Why risk doing a Lampard or Potter, rushing into a "big" job when he can build his CV and reputation here. KM is still very young for a manager, so can take his time. |
This is how I see it too- his ceiling right now in terms of a new club probably isnt far off what we could be by January. And if we are, we are likely to be better set up than the failing club who would be wanting him right now.
And if we improve aswell in that time, then his ceiling will be higher etc etc and repeat. | | | |
| Cost to be competitive on 10:47 - May 10 with 425 views | jayessess |
| Cost to be competitive on 20:26 - May 9 by xrayspecs |
It is a fair challenge on Potter. My thinking was he should have stayed at Brighton longer when he was doing well rather than jump ship to a dysfunctional Chelsea.
KM has a better pedigree than all of the other lower league managers you mention, so not sure they are relevant comparisons. KM will be given the resources to be successful here, so should be in no hurry to chase a bigger job where expectations may be unrealistically high., |
Whatever you think of their relative reputations, the principle is still the same. At some point in his career things will go wrong for McKenna (they do for everyone at some point). If you're higher up the league when that happens you, the better for your career after that. |  |
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